How bad are Ryobi 18 tools?

[Wade Lippman]

I have a set of 15 year old Dewalt nicad 12v tools. The batteries die about 1 per year, and I have 4 left, so I can keep going for a while.
The drills and impact drivers work okay, but the circular saw is pathetic.
I am looking to upgrade, and get some tools that weren't available 15 years ago.

If I want to stay with 12v, that means Makita or Milwaukee, but they are both so expensive. (dewalt and bosch have a very limited selection)

I see that HD has a Ryobi 18 drill, driver, circular saw and recip saw for $150. Heck of a buy. How bad are they?

I also see that Lowes occasionally has PC really cheap. How bad are they?

[Charlie Hinton]

I bought a suitcase full of the Ryobi 18V Nicad battery tools and still use them today.
It was really nice to be able to move directly to the better batteries when they became available.
For my level of use they are plenty good and I am satisfied.
I have recently used some Dewalt cordless tools and without doubt they are much nicer tools than the Ryobi tools are.
It all depends on how much you are going to use them and how you are going to use them and it also depends on whether you are generally satisfied with homeowner grade tools or not.
If you look out into your shop and see a bunch of entry - mid level machines and are satisfied with them, then the Ryobi ecosystem may be a good match.
If you look in you shop and only see mid - high level machines and wish the mid level machines were better, then Ryobi is probably not going to satisfy you.

You know, just thinking about the header for your post has made me reconsider, it is doubtful the Ryobi tools will satisfy you.

[Wade Lippman]

I bought a suitcase full of the Ryobi 18V Nicad battery tools and still use them today.
It was really nice to be able to move directly to the better batteries when they became available.
For my level of use they are plenty good and I am satisfied.
I have recently used some Dewalt cordless tools and without doubt they are much nicer tools than the Ryobi tools are.
It all depends on how much you are going to use them and how you are going to use them and it also depends on whether you are generally satisfied with homeowner grade tools or not.
If you look out into your shop and see a bunch of entry - mid level machines and are satisfied with them, then the Ryobi ecosystem may be a good match.
If you look in you shop and only see mid - high level machines and wish the mid level machines were better, then Ryobi is probably not going to satisfy you.

How are the Ryobi better? Lighter? More powerful?

[Chase Mueller]

I used Ryobi when I was doing carpentry in Illinois. The only thing that came close to reliability was Milwaukee. I was fairly satisfied.

[Marshall Harrison]

I bought a Ryobi drill several years ago and the batteries eventually died. Back around thanksgiving I bought a new set of Ryobi drills along with a 4" circular saw. The new batteries work fine with my older drill as well as the older sawz-all and my weed eater. I'm okay with them. I also have their 12" scms and I'm happy with it also. Plan to get the larger circular saw along with the trim router.

[Andrew Joiner]

I switched to Ridgid for the lifetime battery warranty.

[johnny means]

IME, Ryobi power tools offer plenty of value and will serve the average homeowner or hobbiest just fine. You don't see the difference between brands until you start punishing them on a daily basis. Also, i appreciate that Ryobi seems to support their lineups for a long time. I also like that they seem willing to try out quirky, unconventional products.

[Jon Wolfe]

Another question about Ryobi 18v tools.... anyone have an opinion about the 16-gauge Straight Finish Nailer? I would be using it for glue ups but I have not used a nailer before. Is there a huge difference in performance between the 18 gauge and the 16 gauge nailer (beside the price)?
Are either of these Ryobi's worth owning or should I go with another brand? I have about 5 or 6 Ryobi 18v tools and they work for me.
Is this tool underpowered?
Hope this doesn't derail this thread.
Thanks
Jon

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[johnny means]

18 gauge vs 16 guage is like comparing a sawzall and a tablesaw . Sure, they're both tools, but they serve completely difference functions. A 16 gauge nailer is generally considered a construction tool, in twenty years as a cabinet maker, I've never seen one used in the shop, unless we were still building said shop. What do you mean by glue ups? If you mean assembly, an 18 gauge brad nailer is the usual suspect. Some fussier types, myself included, try to make the 23 guage their assembly gun. But this requires fairly tightly milled parts, as micro pins have almost no pulling power.

[Jon Wolfe]

Thanks Johnny,
I mean assembly not construction so I am interested in the 18 gauge brad nailer not the 16 gauge. My question then would be then... does the Ryobi 18 gauge 18v nailer work well for assembly? I am not aware if Ryobi has a smaller gauge nailer like the 23 gauge one that you are writing about. I would use it to assemble small furniture and cabinets during assembly.
jon

[Dave Lehnert]

I have had Ryobi drill in my shop for years. I started with the 14.4 volt before the 18 volt came along. Just got into the 18 volt 3 years ago.
I like you can buy just the tool and use your existing battery. I never seen a need to spend more $$$ on a drill.

[Kyle Iwamoto]

DeWalt makes a 20V LiIon to 18v NiCad adapter. Keep your 18v tools and have the benefit of LiIon batteries. A win win situation. Skip Ryobi in my extremely biased opinion. The DeWalt 20v line is real nice. And you can use your 18v tools until they die.

[Tim M Tuttle]

I recently made the jump from an old Craftsman cordless set to DeWalt. Before I decided on DeWalt I did a lot of research and thought a lot about my needs. I considered Ryobi but didnt for a few reasons.

1) They are more geared towards home hobbyists. They dont offer the overall selection that DeWalt, Milwaukee, etc do such as track saw, framing nailer, etc. More construction grade tools. I am a hobbyist woodworker but also flip houses. I wanted one battery platform and the largest selection of tools possible within a reasonable price.

2) Ergonomics. I was at HD and compared the size of an Ryobi impact driver to that of DeWalt or Milwaukee. The Ryobi is much larger. Very similar to my 15 year old Craftsman driver. I wasnt really concerned with the weight as much as being able to get into tight spaces. In construction there are always odd angles and tight spots and more compact tools really help out. The Ryobi requires about 4 more inches of space to work in compared to the DeWalt.

3) The lemon factor. I am sure that most people buy Ryobi and are very happy with them and they last a long time. However, I've heard too many stories about a tool crapping out. Yes, it's probably rare but based on anecdotal evidence I think it's much more rare to get a lemon from DeWalt.

Based on those factors I decided I was going with DeWalt, Milwaukee or Makita. They all seem to offer the largest selection of tools for both woodworking and construction and have good reliability. DeWalt had more tools I wanted and had a good price point so I went with them. Ridgid was in the running but their overall selection couldnt compete with the other three I mentioned. However, if I wasnt flipping houses and was just doing occasional house work and woodworking I'd probably go with Ridgid based on the warranty.

All that said, you can build great stuff just using Harbor Freight and Black and Decker tools.

[Robert Engel]

I can only comment on the impact driver, the narrow crown stapler, the and right angle drill.

Impact Driver: Very happy with it.

Narrow crown stapler: Junk

Right angle drill: The ergonomics are terrible, ie. the switch is too far back from the head and the fwd/rev buttons recess into the handle and require letting go to switch them. Even choking up and using the pinkie on the switch, you have to use two hands when you need extra pressure on the head.

I think Ryobi has made great progress in the quality of their cordless tools. Everything else (table saw, planer, miter saw) I would stay away from.

[johnny means]

I can only comment on the impact driver, the narrow crown stapler, the and right angle drill.

Impact Driver: Very happy with it.

Narrow crown stapler: Junk

Right angle drill: The ergonomics are terrible, ie. the switch is too far back from the head and the fwd/rev buttons recess into the handle and require letting go to switch them. Even choking up and using the pinkie on the switch, you have to use two hands when you need extra pressure on the head.

I think Ryobi has made great progress in the quality of their cordless tools. Everything else (table saw, planer, miter saw) I would stay away from.

That's pretty much how right angle drills are supposed to work. That way they reach into places where your hands won't fit. If I can get my hand up behind the chuck, I probably don't need a right angle drill.

[Jeff Duncan]

I'm a long time cordless Makita drill guy, but I got several Ryobi drills for next to nothing several years ago. Bought some batteries and they worked fine for a while until the batteries died. Bought a second set of batteries and again everything worked fine until those batteries died. In the same time period I was still on my first set of Makita batteries and decided to toss the Ryobi stuff as it wasn't worth replacing the batteries that often. Maybe the newer versions are better, but it's easier for me to stick with Makita as they just work.

good luck,
JeffD

[Robert Pugmire]

If i wanted a circ saw i would go with a brushless just cause everyone i used that wasnt brushless didnt last long.

i have 4 ryobi impacts that are used daily and they have held up well in the past 2 yrs and are cheap enough for me to not overly worry about losing or breaking them.

i do like the magnet at the base and wonder why not all other brands have that.

[Roy Turbett]

I bought a 12v Ryobi drill to keep at my mother's house so I would have a drill on site for odd jobs. The NiCad batteries wouldn't hold a charge between visits (charged and removed from charger) and failed completely within two years. I don't know how well the newer lithium batteries work, but the 18v Lithium battery in a Ryobi weed wacker that my wife bought (against my advice) failed within a year. To make matters worse, Ryobi stopped supporting the 18v tool when they switched to 20v.

I have a set of 12v Milwaukee tools that I'm very happy with and bought them because I already had the 12v Milwaukee ProPex expander tool. The drill and impact tool aren't as powerful as my older 18v DeWalt XRP NiCads, but they're much lighter and recharge very quickly. They also hold a charge well except when left in the truck when the temperature drops below zero. I've also used a friend's 18v. Milwaukee set and am impressed with the performance.

If I were you, I'd spend the extra and go with something heavier duty like the Milwaukee, DeWalt, Makita or Ridgid. Any one of these brands will last a long time.

[Leo Graywacz]

You only spend the money once. I think Makita is more Reliable than Milwaukee right now. But Milwaukee has a huge selection of tools. Ryobi is home owner stuff.

[Van Huskey]

You only spend the money once.

If that were only true. For a serious user, you kinda have to approach cordless tools like computers, you know you will replace them. The cordless tools of 10 years ago are several generations behind today's tools.

The funny thing about Ryobi 18v to me is I have had excellent luck with them. I bought a big set 10 years ago on Black Friday as beaters and loaners and all of them especially the drill and impact driver have been abused, the drill took a dip in the lake and the impact multiple dives off ladders. They all still work and now I use Li batteries in them. They are not as high quality or as powerful as my Bosch, Festool and DeWalt tools that I consider my mainstays but I just can't kill them and I honestly consider them a better value unless you make a living with them.

If I were buying today from scratch and didn't want to jump in the super high end like Hilti I think I would pick Milwaukee 18 and or 12v. The selection is enormous and I doubt a non-tradesman will see any longevity issues before they switch platforms in a few years. Me personally I have DeWalt 20v and Bosch 12v simply because I liked specific tools in the lines as well as I got good deals on them. While I have been known to turn up my nose to tools Ryobi 18v has earned my respect, the fact I (nor the people I loan them to) have killed them AND they made their Lithium Ion batteries backward compatible keep them around and beckon me to use them instead of my "better" tools on occasion even when I don't plan to abuse them.

[Leo Graywacz]

The one thing about Makita is their battery platforms have stayed pretty stable. Tools I bought quite a while ago still work with the batteries they put out today.

I find Ryobi to be larger and noisier than their equivalents in other brands. Makita did have issues with their batteries crapping out earlier than they should. Now they have the batteries with the LED power level indicator, and the batteries seem to work very well.

[Van Huskey]

The one thing about Makita is their battery platforms have stayed pretty stable. Tools I bought quite a while ago still work with the batteries they put out today.

I find Ryobi to be larger and noisier than their equivalents in other brands. Makita did have issues with their batteries crapping out earlier than they should. Now they have the batteries with the LED power level indicator, and the batteries seem to work very well.

Don't get me wrong I like Makita and they are always in the running in my tool buying fetish olympics but they always seem to place silver or bronze, usually for some highly personal reason.

I should add for a furniture builder for the shop I think the combination of the Bosch 12v Flexi-click drill/driver and the 12v brushless impact might be a near perfect combination.

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That 5 in one tool is amazingly flexible for a woodworker.

[Leo Graywacz]

I have the little 10.8v Makita's and they are great inside of cabinets. And all tools have their pluses and minuses. I don't have anything near the full range of their tools. The drills I find I like a lot. I got the 6" circular saw and it was a dog. The 7 1/4" 2 battery saw is a workhorse. I really like the mini impact and drill driver. It's what I use the most. I recently got their Sub compact brushless drill and I'm pretty pleased with it. I needed something that would stay in the shop and have a chuck with the same size as my other drills because I've made several jigs that have drill bits of certain lengths for the jigs to work without modification.

I picked up a Milwaukee Rocket Light, 2 5Ah batteries and then their fan to keep me cool on the job site. It's the first time I've strayed from Makita in years.

[Marc Rochkind]

I love the Ryobi 18v system! And one of these days I will buy a tool.

Right now, I have an LED shop light, an LED flashlight, another set of smaller LED lights, a Devour sweeper, a project vac, a tire pump, and a fan. All powered by four batteries that I bought on sale at great prices. It's a fantastic system!

Not a tool there anywhere, but I'm sure I'll get something at some point. (I have two 12v drills and a 12v driver that predate the Ryobis.)

One reason why I like Ryobi is that if you need anything, all you have to do is visit Home Depot.

[Bryan Knitter]

...I don't know how well the newer lithium batteries work, but the 18v Lithium battery in a Ryobi weed wacker that my wife bought (against my advice) failed within a year. To make matters worse, Ryobi stopped supporting the 18v tool when they switched to 20v....

Do you mean 40v? They do have a 40v garden tool line that is not compatible (for obvious reasons) with the 18v batteries or tools, but ALL of the Ryobi 18v tools are compatible with each other and any Ryobi 18v battery old or new, lithium or ni-cad, it's one of their main selling points of the 18v ONE+ line.

Whoever told you the 18v is not supported anymore just wanted to take your money for a new tool.

[Roy Turbett]

Bryan - Thanks for the information. My wife bought the weed wacker at Home Depot and a salesman told her she couldn't get a replacement battery. Could be the salesman didn't know what he was talking about and you're right about him being the same guy that sold her a new one. I couldn't complain too much because the only reason she bought one in the first place is because I was too lazy to fire up my nice Stihl gas trimmer that she can't get started! Nevertheless, the 12v Ryobi batteries and 18v Ryobi battery didn't hold up. I'm not certain about the voltage on the new one and it very well could be 40v.

[Dan Rude]

The same parent company owns Ridgid, Ryobi and Milwaukee now. Ridgid I have an old Nicad 12 volt, replaced batteries once they still work. Not sure if I can do it again, the repair place is gone now 7 Corners. I have other Ridgid tools, they all have tail though. I started with a M18 combo kit Milwaukee, maybe 2008 with compact batteries. Those 2 batteries have finally gone to heaven after 7 years. Started getting the XC batteries on Black Friday, then picked up a close out M18 Hammer Drill, Brushed version and it is a beast. Finally had to order the handle for it. I also have a large group of M12 tools, I tend to buy when on discount. So far all my batteries are still goingThe deal with the M18 kits is the charger does both M18 & M12. I have been considering the Ryobi for lights and other odd tools. They make a stick Vac for the home, that looks interesting now. I spend too much on the Red, but will keep buying either M18 or M12. Dan

[Doug Dawson]

I have a set of 15 year old Dewalt nicad 12v tools. The batteries die about 1 per year, and I have 4 left, so I can keep going for a while.
The drills and impact drivers work okay, but the circular saw is pathetic.
I am looking to upgrade, and get some tools that weren't available 15 years ago.

If I want to stay with 12v, that means Makita or Milwaukee, but they are both so expensive. (dewalt and bosch have a very limited selection)

I see that HD has a Ryobi 18 drill, driver, circular saw and recip saw for $150. Heck of a buy. How bad are they?

I also see that Lowes occasionally has PC really cheap. How bad are they?

The old Dewalt 12V tools of yesteryear are absolutely pitiful compared to the new 20V system they have now, which tools are very competitively priced, either in the home stores or on amazon.

The Milwaukee 12V and 18V Fuel tools are also very impressive.

No experience with the Makita cordless, although I have a lot of their corded tools, and they are mostly top notch.

I've been disappointed by what Ryobi is putting out now, compared to what they were 20+ years ago. I don't know what happened to them.

[Bill Carey]

I've had the Ryobi 18v system for about 10-12 years. 2 drills, 2 impacts, circular saw, grinder, weed wacker, hedge trimmer, sawzall, 2 sanders, 2 flashlights, hammer drill, leaf blower, jigsaw, 5 Li batteries, 4 chargers. (yes, I drank the cool aide :eek: ) I use them almost every day in the shop. Have not had 1 of them quit on me. Several of the old batteries died, but since buying the Li's I've had no problems.

[Bill Carey]

oh - and 2 hand vacs, a shop va and the stapler

[Lee Schierer]

I have a set of 15 year old Dewalt nicad 12v tools. The batteries die about 1 per year, and I have 4 left, so I can keep going for a while.


MTO Battery (https://www.mtobattery.com/collections/power-tool) can repair your old battery packs. I've had several of mine repaired and they work better than new.

[Frank Pratt]

Ryobi tools, for the most part, are a tremendous value for the occasional, undemanding user. Great for the home handyman that isn't so handy. But man, if you use them side by side with Milwaukee, Makita or Dewalt (those are the ones I have experience with) there's no question that the Ryobi are vastly inferior. But like I said, if your expectations are low, then they present a lot of bang for the buck.

[Doug Dawson]

MTO Battery (https://www.mtobattery.com/collections/power-tool) can repair your old battery packs. I've had several of mine repaired and they work better than new.

Interstate Batteries (retail store) sells the 12V DeWalt battery packs (rebuilds.) Apparently they sell quite a lot of them, because the DeWalt 12V chargers don't work so good.

[Frederick Skelly]

MTO Battery (https://www.mtobattery.com/collections/power-tool) can repair your old battery packs. I've had several of mine repaired and they work better than new.

Thanks for posting this Lee!
Fred

[Frederick Skelly]

I realize this thread is 2 mos old and you may have already bought something. But here are my thoughts in case they help someone.....

I had an early version Ryobi 12v. Used it until the batteries crapped-out and it worked just fine for arouns the house. At Christmas this year, the BORG had a nice 12v Milwaukee Fuel with charger and one battery for about $100. I bought it, based on Malcolm Schweitzer's hurricane experience and subsequent advice. I love that tool. It really holds a charge, too. I see that CPO has a reconditioned (https://www.cpooutlets.com/factory-reconditioned-milwaukee-2407-82-m12-12v-cordless-lithium-ion-3-8-in--drill-driver-kit/milr2407-82,default,pd.html?ref=pla&zmam=31282435&zmas=47&zmac=722&zmap=milr2407-82&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIluGGmPOF3AIVCbbACh0zzQgCEAQYAyAB EgL-wPD_BwE) one right now for $79. That might be worth a look if you haven't already bought the Ryobi.

Fred

[phil harold]

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I use oneof the Ryobi 18 gauge nailers quite often
pretty handy and reliable until you try driving 2" pins into hard maple

[Jim Dwight]

The people that say Ryobi tools are junk either never owned one or bought one of their tools that really is junk and never tried the others.

In the 18V line, I have most of them and I haven't found any bad ones but I don't use the jig saw much. It is noticably worse with blade lean than my Bosch. But Bosch makes what I think are the best jig saws. The circular saw and reciprocating saw were not very useful on Ni-Cd but work well with lithium ion batteries. The drills work great. I broke one drilling 2 1/8 holes for locksets in exterior doors. It did a few but failed. It was probably 10 years old. I had another go missing. So I bought two new ones. I've drilled 1/2 inch holes in my boat trailer with my Ryobi drills. I did all the drilling for the wiring in my shop with them. It was the only drill I had with the torque to drive an Irwin speed bore bit. I went through up to 5 2x4s with it. The 18 gauge brad nailer is GREAT. I've driven close to 10,000 brads with it so far, most of them 2 inch. I've retrimmed my house, mainly with this nailer. I also have a weed whacker and a bush trimmer that use the same 18 V batteries. They are also very capable tools. My newest is a 18V shop vac. It works great with my sanders and to clean out the car. Surprisingly powerful.

Ryobi is not a brand where you can assume any tool they make is a great tool. They do make some junk. But they also make some pretty good tools. They are not Festools. But they aren't priced like them either. The only DeWalt cordless I've owned was a drill. It was OK but no better than my Ryobis. I own Bosch, DeWalt, Festool, Rigid, and HF tools in addition to Ryobi. It is just wrong to assume all Ryobi tools are junk. I am happy to compare my results with anybody who wants to bash Ryboi. I am pretty sure I've done as much or more and done as difficult things.

[Bill Carey]

Ryobi tools, for the most part, are a tremendous value for the occasional, undemanding user. Great for the home handyman that isn't so handy. But man, if you use them side by side with Milwaukee, Makita or Dewalt (those are the ones I have experience with) there's no question that the Ryobi are vastly inferior. But like I said, if your expectations are low, then they present a lot of bang for the buck.

ya know, frank, if I wasn't so tired from driving 1/2" x 5" lag screws all day for my new deck with my vastly inferior, low expectation, not so handy ryobi driver, I'd take umbrage at your comments. But it's a holiday.............

[Curt Harms]

MTO Battery (https://www.mtobattery.com/collections/power-tool) can repair your old battery packs. I've had several of mine repaired and they work better than new.

Yup, I had 2 Porter Cable 14.4 v. battery packs rebuilt 10+ years ago. I lent it to a family member where it sat in an old garage unused and uncharged for years. I got it back a few years ago and figured it was toast but decided to charge it and see what happened. It did take a charge and power seemed where it should be, don't know about endurance. In some cases they replace NiCad with NiMH, the chargers will work with either. I haven't looked at their site for years, haven't needed their service since getting Bosch LiIon tools. They weren't doing much with LiIon last time I looked, it looks like they are now.

[Frank Pratt]

ya know, frank, if I wasn't so tired from driving 1/2" x 5" lag screws all day for my new deck with my vastly inferior, low expectation, not so handy ryobi driver, I'd take umbrage at your comments. But it's a holiday.............

Bill, I did get a little carried away with my hyperbole there. I should have left out "vastly" & said "lower expectation". I'm speaking as a guy who uses my cordless tools all day long. I didn't mean to offend, just wasn't thinking.

[Rich Engelhardt]

Based on the Ryobi router & CMS I've had, I'd take Ryobi any day of the week over the newer Porter Cable stuff from Lowes, Black and Decker and/or Harbor Freight (unless I had a one time "throw away" type of job.

HOWEVER - - as with all lower cost/lower quality stuff, you don't see a huge difference except when you try to push something to it's limits.
The cheaper stuff poops out a lot sooner and often, it never recovers from the experience. DeWalt, Milwaukee, Bosch & Makita - just bounce back and ask for more.

[Bill Carey]

no worries Frank - but I am speaking as a person who used his tools every day, all day, for 50 years (and still going strong) building everything from houses to skyscrapers to boats to furniture. I guess we just differ on our opinions. But whats nice about SMC is we can differ without getting cranky. And that's great.

My expectations for my tools have always been that they work. Never cared what name was on them. I'm still using (by coincidence) a Ryobi sliding miter box that's about 30 years old because it still cuts dead nuts 90's and 45's.
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When it quits working to my standards I'll look to replace it. But I'm not going to look for the next shiny new thing just cuz. I have Dewalt battery tools as well as Milwaukee, and I use them - no significant drop off in performance when I use the Ryobi tools. Still using my ancient sawzall. And I love my 25 dollar pin nailer from HF. Been going strong for over 2 years. I'm not one of those guys who likes to "have" tools - I like to use (and sometimes abuse) them to get the job done right.

[Bill Dufour]

I has in Hoe Depot the other day looking to buy the Roybi corded clutch drill. They no longer have any corded Roybi stuff. Despite what the web site says.
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[Doug Dawson]

Ryobi is not a brand where you can assume any tool they make is a great tool. They do make some junk. But they also make some pretty good tools. They are not Festools. But they aren't priced like them either.

Is there any confusion between Ryobi's new color scheme and Festool's original color scheme, from a distance? Something IMO is off here.

[Peter Christensen]

I has in Hoe Depot the other day looking to buy the Roybi corded clutch drill. They no longer have any corded Roybi stuff. Despite what the web site says.
Bill D

I have one of those corded drill drivers and think it is great value for the money. It is cheaper now than when I bought it 2 years ago at the store. Order it on line and if you don't want it delivered to your house, pick it up at the store when it comes.

[Bill Dufour]

I have one of those corded drill drivers and think it is great value for the money. It is cheaper now than when I bought it 2 years ago at the store. Order it on line and if you don't want it delivered to your house, pick it up at the store when it comes.

he Hoe site does not work well enough to use for much so i had to buy a use done from the bay. Home Depot's own fault that I could not get one in the store or order one online. Maybe they quit making them ?
What happened to Milwaukee I thought they stopped making consumer grade tools about one year ago? I understood they would only make core drills and maybe the full size hole hawg.
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