Craftsman 22114

[Cuong Nguyen]

Hi,
I agreed to buy a Craftsman 22114 today. The seller got it from an estate cleanup and it looks like it’s been sitting for a while. The saw needs a little work, but the wheels to raise and tilt the blade work smoothly and it does seem to run quieter than the Delta 34-444 saw I currently have. The only rust is really on the cast iron table top, although the throat plate was warped and stuck to the slot. The table itself is flat when I put a straight edge to it in all directions. No wobble in the arbor and the bearing spins smoothly.


It runs quiet, but has a slight vibration I think due to the drive belt stiffening from not being used. Is there a recommended brand I should look at for a replacement belt? The stock belt can still be bought for around $22 online. Is there anything I should be looking at when I take this thing apart for a cleaning?


Thanks for the help.

[Curt Harms]

If the belt is in otherwise good condition, I might take the blade off and just run the motor for several minutes. See if the belt would heat up a little and the set relax. If it doesn't work you're not out much.

[Bill Dufour]

tires may be flat if left under tension.
Bill D

[Bruce Page]

Cuong, this may or may not be relevant to the 22114.
I installed a link belt to an older, late 80’s Craftsman contractor. The link belt noticeably reduced vibration.

[Cuong Nguyen]

Thanks. I’ll try this.

[Cuong Nguyen]

Tires? It doesn’t have a rolling stand if that’s what you mean.

[Bruce Page]

Tires? It doesn’t have a rolling stand if that’s what you mean.

Coung, I think Bill thought you were asking about a band saw. It’s always best to give more info in the thread title, for example, “Craftsman 22114 Table Saw” rather than just “Craftsman 22114”

[glenn bradley]

I believe this saw has a serpentine or micro-vee belt if it is like the 22124 I owned so no link belt here although I use them wherever I can. The throat insert is no big deal as you will make your own zero clearance inserts anyway. The rust can be dealt with via a razor knife-type razor blade held in pliers of vise grips and used like a scraper if is is that sort of "sheet" of rust over the whole surface. For spot stain removal T-9 Rust Free does a great job BUT, is caustic so please read the directions.

[Bill Dufour]

Coung, I think Bill thought you were asking about a band saw. It’s always best to give more info in the thread title, for example, “Craftsman 22114 Table Saw” rather than just “Craftsman 22114”
I reread his post again and I am still not sure if it is a band with roller bearing guides or a table saw. At least enough info to know it is a saw of some kind.
Bil lD

[Cuong Nguyen]

Coung, I think Bill thought you were asking about a band saw. It’s always best to give more info in the thread title, for example, “Craftsman 22114 Table Saw” rather than just “Craftsman 22114”

Sorry, this is the table saw. I didn’t realize they had two different products with the same number.

it’s the 152.221140 table saw.

[Cuong Nguyen]

I believe this saw has a serpentine or micro-vee belt if it is like the 22124 I owned so no link belt here although I use them wherever I can. The throat insert is no big deal as you will make your own zero clearance inserts anyway. The rust can be dealt with via a razor knife-type razor blade held in pliers of vise grips and used like a scraper if is is that sort of "sheet" of rust over the whole surface. For spot stain removal T-9 Rust Free does a great job BUT, is caustic so please read the directions.

I got the saw today and ran it for a few minutes. The vibration seemed less than when I checked out the saw. I’ll run it fir a while to see if the belt loosens up. The saw is definitely quieter than my Delta 34-444. Almost 10db according to my iPhone app.

I’m not too worried about the throat insert. I didn’t realize it’s held down with a screw and I should be able to make some zero clearance ones from some plywood.

I’ll probably take some WD-40 and sandpaper the tops. The saw needs a little cleaning but I think it will be a good upgrade to the Delta. It’s quieter, has a smaller footprint and has better dust collection which are the main upgrades I want.

[Cuong Nguyen]

I reread his post again and I am still not sure if it is a band with roller bearing guides or a table saw. At least enough info to know it is a saw of some kind.
Bil lD

Sorry, it’s the 152.221140 hybrid saw.

[Curt Harms]

Sorry, it’s the 152.221140 hybrid saw.

Sometimes referred to as a "Zipcode saw":) because the shortened model number resembles a postal Zip Code. They're good saws from what I've read, kind of a light/medium duty cabinet saw.

[Marshall Harrison]

I had one once. Pretty good little saw. They came with a couple of different fences including one with a Beisemeyer clone. Which fence did you get?

I called tech support on mine and they sent me a dust collection shroud for the bottom of the cabinet. The lady on the phone said the lip was bent so she didn't charge me. Took a hammer to it and in a couple of minutes had it all fixed. I also called about an assembly issue and they were very helpful. Not sure how they will be now that the saw is no longer made.

You did good. Rejoice in it and make sawdust.

[Cuong Nguyen]

I had one once. Pretty good little saw. They came with a couple of different fences including one with a Beisemeyer clone. Which fence did you get?

I called tech support on mine and they sent me a dust collection shroud for the bottom of the cabinet. The lady on the phone said the lip was bent so she didn't charge me. Took a hammer to it and in a couple of minutes had it all fixed. I also called about an assembly issue and they were very helpful. Not sure how they will be now that the saw is no longer made.

You did good. Rejoice in it and make sawdust.

It came with the double rail fence with the slots. I'll move this fence to the Delta 34-444 saw I have and either put on a Unifence or a Biesemeyer fence that I have. I haven't decided which fence yet.

[Curt Harms]

If you go with a Biesmeyer style fence, here's a pretty good deal for a 30" fence I think.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Power-Equipment-30-in-T-Square-Fence-and-Rail-System-36-T30T3/205803795

[glenn bradley]

It came with the double rail fence with the slots. I'll move this fence to the Delta 34-444 saw I have and either put on a Unifence or a Biesemeyer fence that I have. I haven't decided which fence yet.

There are plenty of fans for both of those fence styles. If you have both you could swap back and forth to see which suits you best. I would; given that they both have such an avid following and both are a great fence. Not all of us get that opportunity and the small amount of work to swap the front rail to test drive them would pay dividends going forward.

[Marshall Harrison]

It came with the double rail fence with the slots. I'll move this fence to the Delta 34-444 saw I have and either put on a Unifence or a Biesemeyer fence that I have. I haven't decided which fence yet.

Sounds like a good plan. I've never used a Unifence but heard lots of good stuff about them. The Beisemeyer is my preferred style at the moment. Someday I would love to try out an Incra.

[Cuong Nguyen]

If you go with a Biesmeyer style fence, here's a pretty good deal for a 30" fence I think.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-Power-Equipment-30-in-T-Square-Fence-and-Rail-System-36-T30T3/205803795

I actually already have the commercial Biesemeyer and Unifence. The Unifence is currently on the Delta 34-444saw. I plan on moving the stock fencefrom Craftsman 22114 to the Delta and using either the Unifence or Biesemyer onthe Craftsman.

[Cuong Nguyen]

There are plenty of fans for both of those fence styles. If you have both you could swap back and forth to see which suits you best. I would; given that they both have such an avid following and both are a great fence. Not all of us get that opportunity and the small amount of work to swap the front rail to test drive them would pay dividends going forward.

I was going to build a workbench for the Delta and replacethe steel wings with laminate tops and mount my router on the left side of the blade. In this case, I probably would have just keptthe Unifence and bought the Peachtree Uni-T-Fence to mount a router fence forthe router. But since the Craftsman hascast iron wings, I plan on keeping them on and building the workbench with therouter table on the right side. TheBiesemeyer makes more sense in this case since I don’t have to disassemble thefence rail to use the right side like I would with the Unifence. I could mount the router fence to the rightside of the Biesemeyer fence.

[Cuong Nguyen]

Sounds like a good plan. I've never used a Unifence but heard lots of good stuff about them. The Beisemeyer is my preferred style at the moment. Someday I would love to try out an Incra.

I think the Unifence is a more versatile design, especiallywith the Peachtree Uni-T-Fence and it ability to easily mount jigs to it butthe Biesemeyer is one beefy design. Simple but effective and rugged. I have the Unifence sliding very smoothly now and the cuts are quiteaccurate using just the fence ruler.
I’ll mount the Biesemeyer on the Craftsman after cleaning itup to see how it compares to the Unifence.
I’m hoping the Craftman’s dust collection is much betterthan the Delta. I have sawdust all over everythingin my garage that I need to clean up at some point.
The Incra system looks very nice. Seems extremely accurate and repeatable butit is pretty expensive for a hobbyist like myself.

[Marshall Harrison]

The Incra system looks very nice. Seems extremely accurate and repeatable butit is pretty expensive for a hobbyist like myself.


As a hobbyist I have the same cost issue that you have. I don't have to do a ton of repeatable cuts as those types of cuts depend on the project and change from project to project. If I was turning out multiple items of the same project type then that would be a different story.

[Kevin Killoy]

Do you have idea how hard it is the mount the Delta T-Square fence you referenced on the Craftsman 152.221140. Thanks for any info.

[Lee Schierer]

This thread is over 3 years old.

[Brian Runau]

Hi,
I agreed to buy a Craftsman 22114 today. The seller got it from an estate cleanup and it looks like it’s been sitting for a while. The saw needs a little work, but the wheels to raise and tilt the blade work smoothly and it does seem to run quieter than the Delta 34-444 saw I currently have. The only rust is really on the cast iron table top, although the throat plate was warped and stuck to the slot. The table itself is flat when I put a straight edge to it in all directions. No wobble in the arbor and the bearing spins smoothly.


It runs quiet, but has a slight vibration I think due to the drive belt stiffening from not being used. Is there a recommended brand I should look at for a replacement belt? The stock belt can still be bought for around $22 online. Is there anything I should be looking at when I take this thing apart for a cleaning?

Thanks for the help.

If it is doesn't quiet down and you choose to replace the belt take it to a local industrial distributor. Motion, Kaman, Applied Industrial etc.. They should be able measure it and ID it for you and give you a price. I just did this for my table top band saw belt and it was 25% of the "craftsman" price. Just a time investment on your part. Brian

[Frederick Skelly]

Friends, this thread is 3 yrs old and the OP hasnt been here in 18 mos.