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steven c newman
05-01-2018, 9:36 PM
One of the saws I picked up at that auction Sataurday..
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Seems to be a late model Atkins No. 59....might be worth the effort to clean up?
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Removed the bolts. Nickle plated Brass, shined these up, set aside.
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Used a wood mallet to remove the tight handle. Sanded down the rougher spots of the finish....was wiped down after this photo...which left this to clean up
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Scratchy pad under a sander...got the worse off.. then 120 grit, 180 grit, and finally 220 grit..
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Tried this on the etch side of the plate, then back to the sander..
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Was seeing a very faint etch..Atkins Perfection logo...and a bunch of writing....tried the gun blue paste..
Barely raised the etch. Coat of shellac on the cleaned handle, and a line up pin to re-install the handle.
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I even clocked the bolts..
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Finally got things all looking spiffy..stay tuned for "Part 2"

steven c newman
05-01-2018, 9:42 PM
Spiffied up, and about ready to work..
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Stamped as an 8 ppi. teeth feel well set, crosscut? Straight back. No bends nor kinks. No crack nor chips in the handle
Set up a Pine test board..
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Seemed to do well..
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For an 8 pointer saw.

Not sure what year this saw was made in. Might be a keeper.....Figured I spent $20 for 7 saws....less than $3 for this one....?

steven c newman
05-01-2018, 10:55 PM
A catalog search seems to show this as a No. 65 Straight back saw. I also have a #51 skew back in the till..7ppi.....and a late model 51 that someone cut down....it is a 5-1/2ppi rip saw..for a tool box.

Seem to be getting a bunch of Atkins saws lately even a couple Pheonix Warranted ones. Seem to be decent enough saws..

Mike Baker 2
05-02-2018, 8:14 AM
I thought that saw wood clean up well. Nice work! Looks great!

lowell holmes
05-02-2018, 10:38 AM
I have a D-12 Disston that was rusty with a broken handle, It is a 10 point crosscut.
I sanded the rust off, filed the tooth line off and re-toothed it and made a new curly maple handle for it.
I put after market saw nuts on it. It is a beautiful fast cutting handsaw that I treasure.

You might look for a rusty broken handle saw and restore it. It is a fun project.
If you are not familiar with it, the D-12 is considered to be the top line of Disston saws.

http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/12page.html

Stewie Simpson
05-02-2018, 6:56 PM
Lowell; when do we get to see a photo of that new curly maple saw handle.

Stewie;

Stewie Simpson
05-02-2018, 7:38 PM
For additional accuracy, the saw handle slot was 1st kerfed to a 1/2" depth using a router table mounted slitting blade, then sawn to full depth with a large tenon saw.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0036_zps1sidnibm.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0036_zps1sidnibm.jpg.html)

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0034_zpswd47qidh.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0034_zpswd47qidh.jpg.html)

lowell holmes
05-02-2018, 11:25 PM
Stewie,
When I have made saw handles, I have cut it to pattern shape, and fit the saw nuts, then shape the handle. I split the handle with a back saw.

I may try your approach on the next one.

steven c newman
05-03-2018, 1:12 AM
Hmmm, next in line for a rehab..
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Rather a late model clone......bolt pattern seems to be a "D-7" post WW2 era....medallion is a Warranted Superior.....will do some digging around, and see what I can find out about it..

Not sure about the "Craftsman" saw....
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Mightbe a clone of a Disston D-23? It does have a Hanger Hole in the toe....may let this sit a while...

steven c newman
05-03-2018, 1:53 AM
An etch on a WS saw? Not a Disston WS medalion..Eagle is smaller. Etch proclaims as a WORTH ( inside a diamond shaped logo)Spring Steel, Warranted...Will try to bring out the rest of the etch..later today.

Handle's bolt pattern almost a match for Atkins "Perfection" handles... Bolts are brass, heads are the smaller style. 8ppi stamp, straight back....Might be "worth" the effort to clean up?

Jerry Olexa
05-03-2018, 12:39 PM
Steve great price and good work restoring!!! good eye and good work!

Jerry Olexa
05-03-2018, 12:40 PM
For additional accuracy, the saw handle slot was 1st kerfed to a 1/2" depth using a router table mounted slitting blade, then sawn to full depth with a large tenon saw.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0036_zps1sidnibm.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0036_zps1sidnibm.jpg.html)

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0034_zpswd47qidh.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0034_zpswd47qidh.jpg.html)

Stewie, can you show us a pic of the completed handle? Nice work!!!

steven c newman
05-03-2018, 2:02 PM
Don't have any broken saws to fiddle with making new handles....
Worth handsaw is rehabbed..
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Even managed to bring out the etch..
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Cuts fast, and straight..
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About 10 strokes to get this far.
8 ppi, 26" long. Brass hardware, WS medallion..with a very small Eagle. Handle was sanded to remove some flaking finish, then a coat of Amber Shellac was brushed on.
Might be a keeper?

Andrew Pitonyak
05-03-2018, 2:09 PM
I really like that you used a chisel to remove some of the rust! :D

Looks very nice, what a difference.

lowell holmes
05-03-2018, 4:28 PM
I will show them when I can figure out how to down load the picture from my cell phone. I may have to go to Verizon to find out. :confused:

lowell holmes
05-04-2018, 4:03 PM
Don't have any broken saws to fiddle with making new handles....
Worth handsaw is rehabbed..
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Even managed to bring out the etch..
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Cuts fast, and straight..
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About 10 strokes to get this far.
8 ppi, 26" long. Brass hardware, WS medallion..with a very small Eagle. Handle was sanded to remove some flaking finish, then a coat of Amber Shellac was brushed on.
Might be a keeper?

Aren't they all keepers?:)

Stewie Simpson
05-04-2018, 7:04 PM
Stewie, can you show us a pic of the completed handle? Nice work!!!

Jerry; will do. The following shows some progress in shaping the new handle.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0037_zpsr3tzg3xp.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/unidentified%20saw%20maker/DSC_0037_zpsr3tzg3xp.jpg.html)

lowell holmes
05-05-2018, 10:22 AM
Lowell; when do we get to see a photo of that new curly maple saw handle.

Stewie;

I will have to go and buy a new camera. My Power Shot is dead and Hurricane Harvey flooded my office and I do not have the capability to make pictures.

lowell holmes
05-05-2018, 1:22 PM
I was doing some remembering this morning. Old dogs do that you know.
I actually took my D12 to Circle Saw in Houston Texas and had them re-tooth and sharpen it.
I had made the handle before doing that. That is why the saw is sharp and cuts fast in a straight line.:)

steven c newman
05-06-2018, 12:41 PM
Ok, back to a bit of Rehab for a saw....last year, at the World's longest Yard Sale....I picked a "tool box" size saw....got home and cleaned up.....today, while doing a cleaning of the shop, decided to try a file on that saw..
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Set up the Wentworth No. 1, and got out the toys..
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Turned out, I only needed the file, with the red handle. This will be saw #4 for that file....I did have a spare, if needed..
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Had an overhead light....
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Stamped as a 5-1/2......so I filed it rip..
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Not even sure who made this saw....never seen that bolt pattern before...it does have a bit of set to it, didn't see the need to work on that..
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Apparently, long ago, someone had bent this saw...then decided to shorten it down.

lowell holmes
05-08-2018, 12:35 PM
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Stewie you ask to see it. Here is my D12 Disston with the maple handle.
I don't think it compares with your handle.

Jerry Olexa
05-08-2018, 1:04 PM
Lowell, nice work on the D12!!! I think restoring/cleaning the blade on the vintage handsaws is one of my biggest challenges.....Good job!!!

Jerry Olexa
05-08-2018, 1:06 PM
Stewie, you also do very fine work!!!! Thanks sharing.

lowell holmes
05-08-2018, 4:35 PM
I was just in the shop and found a saw I had forgotten. It is a 26" 10 point crosscut
Disston with a curly maple handle and bright gold saw nuts. Old dogs tend to be forgetful,
and I had forgotten it.

I am an incredibly healthy old dog, but I know I will not last forever.
My younger wife should outlive me by 8-10 years and I hate to think how she would dispose
of them. I have three sons, maybe I should leave the tools to them. That will be done after
I'm gone though.:)

My saws are all restored old Disstons. Any suggestions?

Stewie Simpson
05-09-2018, 12:33 AM
Thanks Lowell;

lowell holmes
05-09-2018, 8:05 PM
I have two 10 tpi Disstons, one is the D-12 and the other a D-7. They both have curly maple handles.
I went through a period when I was resurrecting old Disston hand saws. As I mentioned before,
I have about 15 of them.

steven c newman
05-09-2018, 9:10 PM
Rookie....

these are the ones that don't fit into the Saw Til...
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And the til is full..
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4 panel saws hang on pegs on the side of the til...to Compass Saws hang on the back of the til...

Jeff Ranck
05-10-2018, 9:11 AM
Stewie:

This is very helpful to me as I need to make a new handle for a saw I have. The handle is broken and it is one of those things that I've been putting off since I wasn't sure how to go about it.

Jeff.

steven c newman
05-10-2018, 1:42 PM
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A few years ago....this showed up at my door...
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Scrounged a piece from another broken saw..
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After a finish was used...
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Took a bit..
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To get it to blend in...

Stew Denton
05-10-2018, 8:59 PM
Steven, Lowell, and Stewie,

Nice work on the saws!

Stew