Knew Concepts coping saw - New Handle

[Brian Holcombe]

Rather than learning to cope with hand pain (Is it still unfunny if I laugh at my own jokes :D :D :D ), I decided it was time to replace the handle on this saw. For some reason it just doesn't jive with my hands and I get a painful cramp when using the stock handle. My hands are pained rather easily so I don't fault the original for that, but for me I needed something else.


The ferrule started life as a compression fitting. I retained the internal threaded portion and simply threaded the handle and provided a step for the material to compress at the top of the fitting. I turned the brass along with the handle, the material doesn't turn very well since it is a very hard brass but I made due.


The handle is cherry, which would normally be an odd choice for a handle but some unknown reason this particular cherry cuts like granite.


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It's not on permanent like just yet, I dont actually own epoxy so I have to go buy some.

[Frederick Skelly]

Good stuff Brian. Thanks for the image. I may do one for my KC when it arrives.
So the handle will be epoxied onto the saw?
Fred

[Brian Holcombe]

Thank you! I plan to, just a press fit for now.

[Mike Henderson]

I replaced the handle on my KC fret saw. Here's (http://www.mikes-woodwork.com/KnewHandle.htm)how I did it.

Mike

[Frederick Skelly]

I replaced the handle on my KC fret saw. Here's (http://www.mikes-woodwork.com/KnewHandle.htm)how I did it.

Mike

Thanks Mike. I read that carefully. I appreciate the tutorial!

[Derek Cohen]

That's very nicely done, Brian. I like that Cherry. It is a warm look.

Similar to mine - just a slightly longer "toe" (not sure what to call it :) ) ...

https://s19.postimg.org/z9re6qwgz/Saw4.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Brian Holcombe]

Thanks Derek, yours is what I had in mind, especially the suggestion to make it two-handed. Appreciate the inspiration.

[Derek Cohen]

Well I like yours better :)

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Brian Holcombe]

Much appreciated!! :D

[Jeff Ranck]

great job Brian! I will eventually get around to replacing the handles on my saws (at least once I figure out whether there is really something wrong with my fret saw or whether it is simply user error). When you get around to fixing it to the saw are you going to drill like Mike and use the rolled pin or epoxy or ??

[Michael Todrin]

The elegance of your sense of humor had me laughing along with you. Also, I love the brass ferrule turned in place.

[Matt Lau]

Nice! (adding in more words because my post was too short to submit)

[Brian Holcombe]

Thanks Gents! I’m not much on epoxy but I think it will do fine here. Compression fit alone has been enough actually but I think it will get loose in the summer.

[ernest dubois]

Mine is old school concept all the way but the handle is self made and holds well simply by friction, no pin, no glue epoxy or otherwise.381614

[James Pallas]

Good looking handle Brian. I have problems with my thumbs hurting and when it starts I have to stop. I asked for glove suggestions on this forum and got a few. I can't remember who suggested Atlas 370 nitriles. I bought some almost a year ago and forced myself to put them on when I knew I was going to be gripping. At first it didn't seem to make much difference. After a while I started to notice they did make a difference. Now it's almost automatic. I put them on. It's not a miracle thing but it does help. They do tend to get hot so I take them off when I dont feel I need them. It's better then having to just give up and lay the tools down because of the pain.
Jim

[Derek Cohen]

Jim, below is a re-post of one I made on the power tool forum a few weeks ago. It was entitled "Improving clamp handles". Try it where it is needed. I think that you will find it more convenient than a nitrile glove, which is a temporary fix that you need to put on and take off ....


I have had a bunch of old Bessey parallel clamps forever. About a year ago I purchased a few of the Bessey Revo. What I came to appreciate about the Revo are the soft grips - they are so easy to tighten and loosen. By comparison, the red-painted wooden grips of the old Besseys I have are slippery, which can be quite frustrating.


I tried a latex spray on the painted handles, but it was not durable and peeled off.


I recalled a thick silicon tape I had used to repair pipes. It seals by welding to itself.


Wrapped around the handle, it takes about an hour to become permanent. It is very grippy and comfortable. A definite upgrade for any clamp handle ...


https://s19.postimg.org/ipenm6l3n/Clamp-handle.jpg


Regards from Perth


Derek

[James Pallas]

Jim, below is a re-post of one I made on the power tool forum a few weeks ago. It was entitled "Improving clamp handles". Try it where it is needed. I think that you will find it more convenient than a nitrile glove, which is a temporary fix that you need to put on and take off ....


I have had a bunch of old Bessey parallel clamps forever. About a year ago I purchased a few of the Bessey Revo. What I came to appreciate about the Revo are the soft grips - they are so easy to tighten and loosen. By comparison, the red-painted wooden grips of the old Besseys I have are slippery, which can be quite frustrating.


I tried a latex spray on the painted handles, but it was not durable and peeled off.


I recalled a thick silicon tape I had used to repair pipes. It seals by welding to itself.


Wrapped around the handle, it takes about an hour to become permanent. It is very grippy and comfortable. A definite upgrade for any clamp handle ...


https://s19.postimg.org/ipenm6l3n/Clamp-handle.jpg


Regards from Perth


Derek
Thanks Derek I saw that post. In order for that to be effective I would need to do nearly every too I own. My grip is very much confined to the ball of my thumb and the palm. Wish there was something the docs could do. PT is about it.
Jim

[Brian Holcombe]

Thanks gents!

Jim I know your pain, I have to stretch my hands pretty routinely if the grip/handle is not perfect. I’m not sure the root cause in my case. I’m very happy when I can go days without hand pain, the more grips I perfect the better.

[Robert Hazelwood]

My hands are usually pretty tough, but the one tool that gives me problems is my eclipse coping saw.

That handle is very nice.

[Phil Mueller]

Ok, Derek, a little good natured ribbing here. When I first started reading your post, I was sure when I got to the picture I would see a replacement handle of some sort of exotic hardward, hand checkered like a gun stock forearm. But I do appreciate the tape idea.

[Derek Cohen]

No problem, Phil. :)

I did post a replacement handle earlier. I was in two minds whether to post the tape as it was not quite in tune with the theme of this thread.

Regards from Perth

Derek