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Sandi Marlowe
03-13-2018, 10:35 AM
Hello! It always seems to me that Sawmill Creek users are the ones to be out there trying all kinds of products and techniques. When we mask a laser job for color fill or to protect the surface, we have always just used blue painter's tape. However, sometimes, it's a little too sticky and I'm relatively sure it's not the most cost efficient. I'm getting ready to do a leather job and I don't want the sticky to damage the leather. Does anyone have any suggestions for cost-efficient masking? I look at the paper masks available at sign shops and I'm overwhelmed by options/materials and I can't always tell whether they are laserable or the right type of material for what I need.

Thanks for any suggestions!

Kev Williams
03-13-2018, 12:00 PM
depending on the leather you might not get tape to stick it very good- As for cost effective, by the sq. foot vinyl sign transfer tape is pretty cheap, and usually comes in 3 grades of sticky, high, medium and low tack. It lasers great, at low power (test first) it will darken slightly so it's good for doing test runs. I use it almost daily to mask Rowmark that I need to laser cut. My BIL engraves dozens of cedar boxes daily, every one gets transfer taped, it's the best tape he's found for soot/sap bleed control and for removing after the fact...

Mike Null
03-13-2018, 12:15 PM
Depending on the leather I would use high tack transfer paper. It is not really high tack when compared to painters tape. You might also consider applying paste floor wax to the leather first as an added precaution. It can be polished or removed with mineral spirits.

John Lifer
03-13-2018, 6:49 PM
I've not tried leather, but I bought a roll of medium tack and works well on everything so far. Zero residue and on leather i'd expect the same, A low tack won't not stick enough, and even medium might not. I think I agree with Mike, high tack and wax for sure.

Sandi Marlowe
03-13-2018, 7:20 PM
Thanks all for the suggestions. I haven't ever tried wax on leather before, but I'm going to try a sample today. That's a great idea.

And I'll get some transfer tape. I've been reading about it, but wasn't sure it would work for this purpose. Sounds like it does the job!

Mike Null
03-14-2018, 8:18 AM
Sandi

Even though we're talking "high tack" it may not adhere to wood and leather as well as you expect. Use a squeegee and even a small wallpaper roller to pressure it down on the material.

Be cautious when engraving thin leather. It can turn brittle and crack.

When you use a mask some weeding will be necessary. I use plastic razor blades for this work. Sign suppliers sell them or you can get them on Amazon.

Bert Kemp
03-14-2018, 11:09 PM
What kind of leather and why the mask, is it just for residue or are you going to color fill the leather.

Bob Davis - Sturgis SD
03-15-2018, 9:12 AM
We have not had good luck masking raw leather, even for cutting. Not sure, maybe it’s oil in the surface of the leather. This has led us away from engraving leather, now if we laser cut leather, we rinse it off with water and a sponge, then while still damp we use a hydraulic press to imprint a design into the leather. Designs are engraved into Delrin with the laser, the Delrin is the die.

Ian Stewart-Koster
03-16-2018, 12:05 AM
Best (and cost efficient) product for masking laser projects ?'Cost efficient' depends on how you define it, and how you value your own time.
When masking, I want to be able to put some mask down once, all in one go, and be finished- unless masking something wider than 2 ft roll of app tape can cover.
That is time-efficient,
and therefore cost efficient to me,
and therefore the best for me.

We keep low tack, medium tack,and high tack app tape in varous sized rolls.
Yes, you might pay $100 for a 2 ft roll, but you save a lot in time and no double- thickness overlaps and poorer cutting.
We also have 4", 6" 8" & 12" rolls. You just grab what you need for the area needed, and apply it.

Sandi Marlowe
03-18-2018, 2:35 PM
Need to color fill!

John Blazy
03-20-2018, 9:44 AM
Transfer tape is a great start. Sometimes on hard-to-stick surfaces like open pore wood, I use clear packaging tape as its high tack sticks better than anything, then roll it in with a rubber roller.

In the case of leather you might want to look into a liquid laser mask. I bought a gallon for my textured laminates, and it works perfectly for textured surfaces. The down side is that its pricey, and takes a while to dry. Its called LaserProtect 5900 by General Chemical corp - http://www.strippablecoating.com

Matt McCoy
03-20-2018, 11:02 AM
Here's another vote for high-tack transfer paper on leather. Use a plastic squeegee to get adhesion, and don't forget to cover the underside if it will be seen. I do not use wax or anything that requires additional clean up or treatment.