Help to find a couple of hand planes.

[Lasse Hilbrandt]

In relation to the thread about old tools, I have decided to sell my LN no5 in order to start a collection of vintage Stanley planes. Since I live in Denmark, I will try only to buy from european dealers to avoid tax.

There is a couple of British dealers im looking at, if somebody would take a look at the websites and point me in the right direction. I would like a no.3 or no.4 and a no.7 or no.8. I want them to be good users but at the same time a kind of collectors item. Im afraid to buy the wrong types.

https://www.tooltique.co.uk/
(https://www.tooltique.co.uk/)http://www.oldtools.co.uk/
(http://www.oldtools.co.uk/)http://www.oldhandtools.co.uk/




(http://www.oldhandtools.co.uk/)

[ernest dubois]

Hello Lasse, with England soon to be out of Europe, this one inside the single market might provide you a more reliable source to fill your second-hand tool needs.

It is Dutch and I have used them in the past with satisfaction.



http://www.ducotools.dds.nl/wordpress/?page_id=7

[Jim Koepke]

In relation to the thread about old tools, I have decided to sell my LN no5 in order to start a collection of vintage Stanley planes. Since I live in Denmark, I will try only to buy from european dealers to avoid tax.

There is a couple of British dealers im looking at, if somebody would take a look at the websites and point me in the right direction. I would like a no.3 or no.4 and a no.7 or no.8. I want them to be good users but at the same time a kind of collectors item. Im afraid to buy the wrong types.

https://www.tooltique.co.uk/
(https://www.tooltique.co.uk/)http://www.oldtools.co.uk/
(http://www.oldtools.co.uk/)http://www.oldhandtools.co.uk/




(http://www.oldhandtools.co.uk/)

Being a good user and being a collectors item are two different things. Collectors want something in like new condition and original. A good user might have a few dings and scratches.

Are there heavy taxes levied on used tools?

jtk

[Lasse Hilbrandt]

Thanks. I will take a look at it. But still needs some help

[Lasse Hilbrandt]

Being a good user and being a collectors item are two different things. Collectors want something in like new condition and original. A good user might have a few dings and scratches.

Are there heavy taxes levied on used tools?

jtk

I wil try do be more specifik. I woul like to buy some of those Stanleys that are considered the best from the pre war era, so that the chance that they will keep their value are higher

[ken hatch]

In relation to the thread about old tools, I have decided to sell my LN no5 in order to start a collection of vintage Stanley planes. Since I live in Denmark, I will try only to buy from european dealers to avoid tax.

There is a couple of British dealers im looking at, if somebody would take a look at the websites and point me in the right direction. I would like a no.3 or no.4 and a no.7 or no.8. I want them to be good users but at the same time a kind of collectors item. Im afraid to buy the wrong types.

https://www.tooltique.co.uk/
(https://www.tooltique.co.uk/)http://www.oldtools.co.uk/
(http://www.oldtools.co.uk/)http://www.oldhandtools.co.uk/




(http://www.oldhandtools.co.uk/)

Lasse,

I looked at the three sites and each appears to offer good tools at a reasonable price. In fact you cost me a quid or two, the last seller had a nice moving fillister that I couldn't pass by. I'm not sure if this is what you are asking but if I were looking for good user planes I would look for type 9 to type 13. Other types can make good users but the type 9 through type 13 have the best "bones" to work with. The type 9 planes do not have the screw adjustable frog but do have the good frog seating of pre-war planes. IIRC type 13 is the last without the knob ring and somewhere in that time period the frogs changed from flat topped and the lever cap from straight screw holes to comma. I can't remember when the high knob was introduced. It has been too long since I've chased rust and I suffer from OF's memory so take the type indicators as less than reliable.

ken

[Derek Cohen]

Hi Lasse

To combine user and collector - at least a plane model that will get your money back, or better - look for the Bedrock: #603 or 604, and #607. You will pay more. For the #5 I would not waste money on the same ideal since this is a roughing plane. You can save here.

If you plan to get the Bailey version, then aim for Types #11 and 12. They are identical save for the knob (low vs high, respectively). These are considered the best.

In reality, a good user can be had cheaply, and the above do not offer anything extra in performance. But a plane you cherish is a little more special to use. And that is what counts. I have a couple of planes that were taken back to bare metal, and repainted (with spray engine enamel).

Regards from Perth

Derek

[John C Cox]

If you want to buy these old tools to make yourself a collection - great.. Do that.. But if you want to buy them to use and then potentially resell later - it's not necessarily an economical path... My experience is that you will not recoup any money you spend on repairs/maintenance/new parts to make your old tool work like a new one.... And old tools need ongoing repairs/maintenance like anything else old...

If you are looking for tools that hold their value even when used and have a brisk resale market - look no further than Lie Nielsen and Lee Valley/Veritas. I am not sure where Clifton shakes out in this mix..

I have been amazed to see that when you can buy them used - a used LN or LV plane can run 90-95% of new... I cannot say the same thing about even used/collector Stanley planes.. The way you "Make money" on an old Stanley is to buy it at a yard sale for almost nothing and then sell it to a tool collector... Buying from a tool dealer can get you way better condition - but you will probably take a hair cut when you resell it...

It's also considerably easier to collect these in the USA.. Stanley was an American company.. And they sold millions of them here in the USA... They are still relatively common at thrift stores and antique malls.. I have a feeling it's not this way in Europe, if for no other reason than WWI and WWII sucked up all the available steel...."Old stuff" just all got melted down for arms...

Anyway - best of luck on your hunt.

[Lasse Hilbrandt]

The Bedrocks are ofcourse the most desireble but too expensive to me. I was hoping somebody would point out a couple of type 9-13 from the websites

[steven c newman]

Maybe see where Paul Sellers finds his planes? And skip this constant Info-mercial for L-N / LV items?

My #4 that I am using for the latest build thread, is a Type 10. The #8 is a Type 7, and the #7 is a Type 9. I also use a Stanley #6c, Type 10. The Stanley Jack #5 I have is a Type 6/7......I did have a Stanley MADE #3....sold by Montgomery Wards during WW2. Gifted that to another woodworker.

That were a lot of Stanley Planes made in England....happened to have a #4c one. I have been using it to raise panels with.