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mike sato
12-13-2017, 6:00 AM
Need to replace 3 broken 4" x 4" x 16" concrete blocks (also called cinder blocks or hollow concrete blocks). Figured the easiest way is to buy a variable speed angle grinder and a diamond masonry cutting blade and cut along the grout lines.

Any recommendations for a variable speed angle grinder that can use type-1 flat cut-off blades? Budget is about $150. For safety using cut-off blades, I believe that a cut-off blade guard is required (in addition to the normal grinding blade guard). So need for a cut-off blade guard to come with the angle grinder or be available as an option from the manufacturer.

PS: I will be buying an ANSI approved safety goggles and I already have a full face shield and dust masks.

Matt Day
12-13-2017, 7:20 AM
Just curious, but why do you need variable speed? Seems like every time I’ve used an angle grinder I’ve needed it to be full speed. Just asking because it could save you some money. I’ve been happy with a $20 harbor freight one.

Tim Hoyt
12-13-2017, 7:57 AM
I second the vote for Harbor Freight grinders. Cheap and just as durable as much more expensive ones. Who cares if concrete dust kills your $20 grinder?
I think you might have trouble finding a variable speed grinder. I'm not familiar with any. That being said, there are variable speed polishers out there. I have 2 of them I use with concrete furniture and countertops. They aren't nearly as durable as a grinder ( a more complicated switch, maybe?). They are also a bit more expensive and the selection is more limited.

Phillip Mitchell
12-13-2017, 8:20 AM
Hitachi makes a variable speed 4 1/2" angle grinder. It has a brushless motor and is around $180-190.

Ive used it with polishing pads/high grits pads for polishing natural stone tile.

I've cut plenty of block with a cutting wheel, and I'm not sure why you'd want variable speed for that task.

Adam Herman
12-13-2017, 10:38 AM
I have been perfectly happy with my ridgid, we have cut flag stone, tile, concrete and metal with it. I think i would be happy with any of the major brands though. I do prefer the "slim grip" of my model.

HF is certainly cheaper if you don't think you will use it a bunch.

also not sure you need VS for this application.

Bill Adamsen
12-13-2017, 12:55 PM
rent, then you won't be stuck storing something you'll never use again, and the quality will be better.

Mel Fulks
12-13-2017, 1:04 PM
I think Harbor Freight has killed off a lot of the tool renting places. No paper work ,and I would rather have lower grade brand new than dogged, broken high grade.

daryl moses
12-13-2017, 1:09 PM
Unless you are planning on re-using the blocks I'd use a cold chisel. I see no need in using a grinder.
Simply chisel the grout line and bust the blocks that need to be removed with a hammer.

Victor Robinson
12-13-2017, 1:48 PM
If you're set on VS, the one to get IMHO is the Makita 9565CV. The task at hand doesn't really require VS but maybe others you have down the line will. It's the model a lot of granite countertop installers around here have used for years.

Bill Dufour
12-13-2017, 2:24 PM
For one job buy HF and also by the $20 HF variable speed box. This allows variable speed of any ac/dc motor including routers, drills, grinders.
Bill D

Mark Bolton
12-13-2017, 2:45 PM
I would agree that you dont need VS but I cant agree with the HF. I just cant stand the stuff but to each his own. That said, if your wanting to invest in a grinder the VS is very very nice. As already mentioned it opens you up to being able to do slow speed polishing, disc sanding, small diameter core drilling, and so on. Super handy. Im an advocate of buying the most quality you can afford and is reasonable for the intended use. If HF is the budget so be it but Ive had my hands on a bit of that stuff and it leaves miles to be desired when you get your hands on a decently made tool. I get sick from the smell just driving by the place lol.

Roger Nair
12-13-2017, 2:51 PM
I would choose the handwork route, I've done it many times. Clean out the mortar joint with one of these sort

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bon-Tool-10-in-x-1-4-in-Masonry-Plugging-Chisel-11-385/302903206?MERCH=REC-_-NavPLPHorizontal1_rr-_-NA-_-302903206-_-N

Then break out the block with a narrow brick chisel. Do not use a nail hammer, wrong temper, use a drilling or mechanics hammer.

Wallace Brooks
12-13-2017, 3:48 PM
Cheap angle grinders lead to carpal tunnel syndrome, cubital tunnel syndrome, and damage to the basal joint in the thumb. I have had three of those surgeries in the past year. If you need to use an angle grinder for any reason, go with a higher end metabo or fein. The German made high quality units have anti vibration damping designed in.

Bruce Wrenn
12-13-2017, 4:16 PM
Cheap angle grinders lead to carpal tunnel syndrome, cubital tunnel syndrome, and damage to the basal joint in the thumb. I have had three of those surgeries in the past year. If you need to use an angle grinder for any reason, go with a higher end metabo or fein. The German made high quality units have anti vibration damping designed in.And exactly how much use will it take to remove a couple of blocks? When we do a block cut /removal indoors, we use a small dust collector blower to collect grinding dust, and pipe it outdoors. Been using the same B&D Industrial 4 1/2 angle grinder since 1978.

Wallace Brooks
12-13-2017, 7:02 PM
Since 1978... Then you must be the role model for this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8UO4jquAlY

Warren Lake
12-14-2017, 12:44 AM
had a Makita and when it stopped got another while I was buying the second one they put new brushes in the first one. Second one is vari speed I pick it up 90 percent of the time. if its delicate stuff it will do less damage I dont always need the thing running full blast and prefer to dial in what I want. Used it lots of times with a quarter inch diamond wheel even taking mortar out between bricks carefully.

mike sato
12-14-2017, 5:25 PM
Thanks all for your comments.

I visited a local hardware store and it carried Bosch, Dewalt, Makita, Skill and Rockwell angle grinders.

Bosch: Really didn't like the on/off switch. Rather difficult to switch on. (not VS)
Dewalt: OK but on/off switch not as easy as Makita. (not VS)
Makita: 9564CV and 9565CV are VS but rather heavy with large circumference grip.
Makita: GA4530 lighter with small circumference grip. On/off switch easy to operate. Liked the feel of this one the best. (not VS)
Skill & Rockwell: Not so interested in either one, especially since I liked the feel of the Makita GA4530.

TWO QUESTIONS:

1. The Makita GA4530 is a low power angle grinder at 6 amps, 11,000 rpm. Any opinions on a 6 amp angle grinder? (Not only for my job on hand but for use later too.)

2. The Makita GA4530 does not come with a cut-off wheel guard. None of the angle grinders (even on Amazon) come with a cut-off wheel guard except for the Makita 9557PBX1 kit. They all come with the half guard for grinding wheels. I've read that the owner's manual for some angle grinders specifically say to NOT use cut-off wheels and I assume that's because they don't come with a cut-off wheel guard. Is that right?

mike sato
12-29-2017, 2:57 PM
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Mike