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John Sanford
11-09-2017, 2:33 PM
I currently have 3 bandsaws, a DeWalt portable, a 14" Chinese built Delta, and a Griggio 24" beast that I'm looking to sell because its a 3 phase PITA. Both a 20" Grizzly ($500) and an 18" Steel City ($750) have popped up on our local Craigslist equivalent, either could be a replacement for the Griggio.

Orrrrr, I could possibly do something(?) to solve my 3 phase pain with the Griggio. (I have an RPC, but there's no switch on it.)

Kick around the Griggio "crossgrade" idea vs the Grizz vs the Steel City and give me y'alls' thoughts.

Matt Day
11-09-2017, 2:40 PM
Seems easy enough to me. Keep the Griggio and fix the RPC, or buy a VFD.

Will Boulware
11-09-2017, 3:27 PM
Set the Griggio out on the curb and I'll come take it away so you don't have to worry about it anymore.

What are your needs for your next bandsaw? You're seriously considering a Grizzly or a Steel City to be a replacement/upgrade for a saw most people would put at the top of their "want" list?

What's the horsepower on it? If it's 3 or less, drop $200 on a TECO FM 50 and wire it up that way. If it's not, put a switch on that phase converter and move along! That's a monster of a saw, and unless it's badly broken or you're doing some really serious work that it can't handle, I'm not sure what the question is here. :D

Edit: There is NOTHING wrong with a bandsaw addiction, btw. I'd say keep them all! But I'd really like to see you keep the beast and get it working for you. Let us know how we can help.

David Kumm
11-09-2017, 3:44 PM
Neither of those saws is a replacement. Fix the real problem. A mag starter for a rpc can be had cheap on ebay or a vfd can be had for a few hundred. you don't run a nice car on crap tires because you don't know how to change them. Don't make the same mistake with your hobby. Dave

Bradley Gray
11-09-2017, 4:17 PM
I have a Kay RPC It didn't come with a switch. I bought a 3 phase service switch with appropriate fuses. Not a big deal.

Carroll Courtney
11-09-2017, 5:49 PM
Lot of Utubes out there on how to install a VFD for single phase input to 3 phase output.Bout 100.00per hp

Bill Adamsen
11-09-2017, 7:36 PM
I start my RPC (also a Kay ... white thing bottom left) with a disconnect (top left) which should be easily sourced inexpensively. I also added a 3-phase breaker box (bottom left) to feed a variety of different amperage 3-phase circuits. It all works pretty well.

I'd keep the Griggio and focus on that machine which should be pretty versatile.

Jim Becker
11-09-2017, 8:46 PM
Personally, I'd just deal with the motor/RPC situation with the Griggo...nothing you posted about is even remotely in the same category with that big, heavy saw. You'd have to spend a lot of money for something as capable with single phase power. If your current three phase power source isn't performing and you determine it's not going to be fixable, I'd look to replacing it with a VFD.

Bill Dufour
11-09-2017, 10:44 PM
If all else fails replace the motor with a single phase. personally I would use a vfd so you can have slow start and power brakes. I would also add another stop switch on the back end of the table, just in case.
Bill

Phillip Mitchell
11-09-2017, 10:45 PM
You're considering replacing a 24" Griggio with a steel city or
grizzly off Craigslist??

Do some digging to figure out exactly what you need to do to get your phase converter situation in order and be done with it.

Tom Trees
11-10-2017, 3:37 AM
Just stick a VFD on it
I have a Chinese one I bought for about a hundred quid, and everything else ran to about ten quid...
It's really easy peasy.

I recall you said he was like family anyway, you'd be mad to sell it, and you might not find another!

What weight is that machine?...I believe its heavier than the star series ...
My saw is about 280KG plus my additions to it.
It is a bit light for a 1" blade, but I'd guess your machine just about gets, say a Woodmaster CT
properly tensioned to 25K

No problems with giving you the info on them, and parameters if you decide to buy a Chinese VFD...
371358
Tom

Frederick Skelly
11-10-2017, 6:47 AM
Seems easy enough to me. Keep the Griggio and fix the RPC, or buy a VFD.

+1 ... what Matt said. Don't get rid of the beast - you'll regret it!

Cary Falk
11-10-2017, 8:26 AM
VFD or single phase motor.

John Sanford
11-13-2017, 8:08 PM
Okay, okay, thank you all for the metaphorical smack upside the head, I'm not really sure what I was thinking, other than hearing the siren call of another bandsaw. I'll go the VFD route, and build some stout platform under the thing so I can raise it. The table on Papa Griggio ridiculously low (from the perspective of a 6' tall American rather than a 5'8" Italian).

Chris Hachet
11-14-2017, 9:14 AM
I would heartily add my vote for another band saw...PM 81 or 87...or a really nice HD band saw if you ahve the space. I know of both a 30 inch Tannewitz and a 27 inch Northfield for 2 grand...the addition never ends.

And yes, VFD.

John Gulick
11-19-2017, 7:53 PM
If you have the room another band saw could not hurt. We have four in our small shop and always have my eyes open for another decent used one

Chris Hachet
11-20-2017, 9:09 AM
If you have the room another band saw could not hurt. We have four in our small shop and always have my eyes open for another decent used oneExactly...I got rid of our 14 inch jet and am looking at replacing it with something larger. I would really like to find a Davis and Wells 20 inch or an Oliver 117.

Failing that I think I will buy a used Italian saw.

Mike King
11-20-2017, 10:01 AM
Fix the RPC AND buy another bandsaw. Problem solved.

Mike