LV Miter guide.

[john zulu]

Anyone has tried them so far? Looks cheap....... enough for a go at it. I still recommend sawing straight without a jig. :)

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=76038&cat=51&ap=1

[Steven Mikes]

Seem pretty extraneous to me. You can cut close enough with a pencil line or even by eye as long as you use a shooting board afterwards to finish the miter.

[steven c newman]

Have a Stanley #2246 and a Langdon #75.....and a GEM.....WHY would I need this new item....:confused:

[Simon MacGowen]

You can cut close enough with a pencil line or even by eye as long as you use a shooting board afterwards to finish the miter.

+1. Nothing gets you better precision than a shooting board or the like.

Simon

[Pat Barry]

I think these guides only help reduce wear on the miter box. That said, they make constructing a miter box much more difficult. I would just go with the simple wooded box made from hardwood. Lets say you wear out the 45 groove - just cut a new one 1/2 inch away and you are back in business.

[Matt Lau]

I think these guides only help reduce wear on the miter box. That said, they make constructing a miter box much more difficult. I would just go with the simple wooded box made from hardwood. Lets say you wear out the 45 groove - just cut a new one 1/2 inch away and you are back in business.

Not to sound sarcastic, but I really do appreciate the infusion of common sense.
I was lusting after the inserts for the past few months. :P

I realize that does sound sarcastic, but I also really lack common sense and was thinking of making a mahogany miter box with blind dovetails...urgh.

[Jim Koepke]

Not to sound sarcastic, but I really do appreciate the infusion of common sense.
I was lusting after the inserts for the past few months. :P

I realize that does sound sarcastic, but I also really lack common sense and was thinking of making a mahogany miter box with blind dovetails...urgh.

Bench accessories can be made of any wood a person chooses. Most folks will select any scrap that is straight and inexpensive. Bench accessories are made to be used and tend to wear out over time.

Some of my bench hooks have 45º angle cuts to use like a miter box to trim pieces.

My old shooting board was reconfigured with some attachments to clean angled cuts:

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?244777-Oh-Shoot!

Roy Underhill also has an episode of the Woodwright's shop about various bench jigs one of which is a shop made miter box:

http://www.pbs.org/video/woodwrights-shop-sliding-lid-boxes/

jtk

[john zulu]

I tend to use the crappiest wood out there for heavily used jigs like this.

[ken hatch]

Bench accessories can be made of any wood a person chooses. Most folks will select any scrap that is straight and inexpensive. Bench accessories are made to be used and tend to wear out over time.

Some of my bench hooks have 45º angle cuts to use like a miter box to trim pieces.

My old shooting board was reconfigured with some attachments to clean angled cuts:

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?244777-Oh-Shoot!

Roy Underhill also has an episode of the Woodwright's shop about various bench jigs one of which is a shop made miter box:

http://www.pbs.org/video/woodwrights-shop-sliding-lid-boxes/

jtk

Jim,

Thanks for the links. I can count on you to provide useful and entertaining links on most subjects. And as always Roy is a hoot to watch and even if you never plan to build his project there is usually something good to takeaway.

ken

[Karl Andersson]

I saw an antique miter box at a flea market that had ornate cast iron versions of these; I still wish I had gotten it, even if it was very warped. I plane or cope to final fit, so a box like this with guides is good to get close and doesn't get mistaken for scrap wood. I would have gotten these Lee valley ones if they weren't plastic - yes, probably better performance than cast iron, but that's not in my particular...idiom.

[steven c newman]

Keep an eye out for a GEM..
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It will use just about any crosscut saw....guides are metal
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They are usually un-folded, and a few screws to fasten things down, through holes provided. When done for the day..
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Remove the screws, and the brass rod these used to keep it from folding up in use. Then just stash in the tool box.
369528Usually, the look like this, when found. Not a big deal to replace the beds...
This came with a backsaw, at a garage sale,...$10...

[Matt Lau]

I wish I had your yard sales.

Mine have used liberal books from the 70-80's, trashy bodice ripper novels, and VHS exercise tapes

[Dave Lehnert]

I also found one like Steven has in his post. Came from an antique shop in Northern Ohio,

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[steven c newman]

369650
While repairing the burned out bedroom, I need a way to cut door and window trim IN the room. Room was on the second floor, shop is in the basement......a few screws to hold this to a sawhorse, and away we went..
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"Sawhorse" was actually my Saw Bench....

[Derek Cohen]

I saw an antique miter box at a flea market that had ornate cast iron versions of these; I still wish I had gotten it, even if it was very warped. I plane or cope to final fit, so a box like this with guides is good to get close and doesn't get mistaken for scrap wood. I would have gotten these Lee valley ones if they weren't plastic - yes, probably better performance than cast iron, but that's not in my particular...idiom.

One aspect has not been mentioned here: if the Lee Valley guides are made from uhmw plastic, then they will be both indestructible and be a really smooth guide for the saw blade. I added pieces of uhmw inside the guides on the mitre box I recently restored. It now glides ... :)

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolRestorations/MFMitreboxRebuild_html_5d5890d6.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Hilton Ralphs]

I added pieces of uhmw inside the guides on the mitre box I recently restored. It now glides ... :)


How did you get them to stay put Derek? Is there a type of glue that will adhere to UHMW?

[Derek Cohen]

Hilton, I used epoxy. So far it is still holding on. It's not as though there is much stress.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[steven c newman]

Rather NOT add that stuff to my mitre box guides.....when they already have roller bearings as OEM....

Let the weight of the saw do it's job, guides will actually sit low on top of the saw's spine. Unless you intend to add a strip there...

About the only time my saws hit the bearings, is when I have the depth stops set up. At which time, the cut is usually done, anyway....maybe one or two swipes until you realize saw is done with the cut.

[Derek Cohen]

Steven, the point here is that the OP asked about the Lee Valley mitre box kit. My post was to add information - that the nylon used is very durable, and probably less destructive and smoother than the vintage brass versions it copied.

Just for interest, I do have a Miller Falls 74C, which is on the right.

https://s19.postimg.org/uyei7okb7/3a_zpsokd2w87h.jpg

This has rollers for the saw. However, the saw that received the UHMV was the dinky MF 15, on the left. That is it before restoration. I also needed to make a saw for it ...

https://s19.postimg.org/fcx6nraxv/8a_zpsb89r6xwk.jpg

Back to the point of the thread: that LV kit probably works very well.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Hilton Ralphs]

Hilton, I used epoxy. So far it is still holding on. It's not as tough there is much stress.


Thanks Derek!

[Ron Bontz]

Thanks for posting, John. Sometimes I use a small home made box for my Gent saw when ever I need to cut very small 1/4" x 1/4" or less parts. Think window bead/ jewelry box moulding, etc. These should work nicely.

[Simon MacGowen]

Thanks for posting, John. Sometimes I use a small home made box for my Gent saw when ever I need to cut very small 1/4" x 1/4" or less parts. Think window bead/ jewelry box moulding, etc. These should work nicely.

For small parts, this is the miter box I use:

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=55600&cat=1,42884

Simon