Hello Good (and Wood) People!!

[esteban wood]

New here and form south america.
Tryng to learn some of this noble office
Actually I´m looking for some hard glue, for building a bow.
I have read that "Franklin Tite-bond el ll" may work.
As many knows, bows are most of the time bending. So keeping two pieces of wood seems to be hard to achieve.

(I hope to be understood)

Thanks a lot, already

PS if it is possible to mention the glue's compound , so that I can finds it in my country

[John Bailey]

Estaban,

Let me say welcome to the "Creek." I'm sure you'll enjoy the expertise offered on this site. Can't help you with the bow question. But I'm sure you'll have an answer soon. Good to have some South American representation. Where in South America are you from?

John

[Steve Clardy]

Welcome to the Creek!!
Not any help on your project. We'll let the glue guros handle your question.

Steve

[Randy Moore]

No answer for your question but someone will have the answer for you.

Welcome to the "Creek". Glad to have you join us, there is a lot of knowledge here.

Randy

[Jay Knoll]

Esteban

Welcome to the Creek!

I've never built a bow, but this guy has!

http://www.renegadearchery.com/building/bow_building.htm

In one of the pages, he says that he uses epoxy --

You might contact him directly,

Jay

[Jamie Buxton]

I know a guy who builds wooden bows. He laminates several layers of wood together using a urea-formaldehyde glue. Urea-formaldehyde is a two-part glue. That is, you mix two components together, and the glue cures by chemical action between the two components. Urea-formaldehyde is water-proof after it has cured. In the US, brand names include Unibond 800, Urac 185, and DAP's Plastic Resin Glue. Urea-formaldehyde is a chemical descriptions, so that might help you in finding it in your country.

[Mark Singer]

Eseban,
Bienvenidos!

[Andrew Ault]

Esteban,

Welcome to Sawmill Creek!

When I was young, I made a bow from wood and epoxy. I used it for years. I tied the wood pieces and epoxy glue to a form until it cured and then used a belt sander to shape it.

Cuando era joven, hice un arco de la madera y de epoxy. La utilicé por años. Até los pedazos de madera y el pegamento de epoxy a una forma hasta que curó y después utilizó una lijadora de la correa para formarla.

- Andy

[Bruce Shiverdecker]

welcome Esteban,

A friend made an Osage Orange long obw. I will see him tomorrow. I'll ask what he used and tell you here.

Bruce

[Tyler Howell]

Welcome to the Creek Esteban! great bunch of folks.
We'd love to see your work.;)

[esteban wood]

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[Jason Tuinstra]

Esteban, welcome to the Creek. Great to have you aboard!

[Walt Pater]

[QUOTE=esteban wood]
Bienvenido seria mas correcto

That's funny, Esteban. Welcome.

[Allen Grimes]

[quote=esteban wood]
Bienvenido seria mas correcto

That's funny, Esteban. Welcome.Actually, it depends on where you are from, Mark said it correctly. At least if he was speaking Mexican Spanish. The thing is not only do different countries speak Spanish with different accents and pronunciations but they also spell it the way they speak it.

Estaban do Argentinians speak Spanish, Portuguese or both?

[Mark Singer]

Esteban,
Perdon, mi gramatica no es perfecto! Pero me gusta practicar el Espanol. Gracias por coregirme . Por favor mandame fotos de tus trabajos que as hechos.

[Charlie Plesums]

Welcome


...I have read that "Franklin Tite-bond el ll" may work....
I believe Franklin Tite-bond II (and 1 and 3) are all PVA - polyvinyl acetate - glues, which will creep, thus are not good for bent laminations and bending.

The suggestions for epoxy or urea formaldehyde are good - I just wanted to add that Tite-bond and most other ordinary white and yellow "carpenter" or "woodworking" glues are not good for this use.

[esteban wood]

Esteban,
Perdon, mi gramatica no es perfecto! Pero me gusta practicar el Espanol. Gracias por coregirme . Por favor mandame fotos de tus trabajos que as hechos.


Perdon, que mi gramatica no es perfecta! Pero me gusta practicar el Español. Gracias por corregirme . Por favor mandame fotos de tus trabajos (que has hecho_.)(Quizas esta parte sobre)
Como sea tu español es muy claro!!

[esteban wood]

[quote=Walt Pater]Actually, it depends on where you are from, Mark said it correctly. At least if he was speaking Mexican Spanish. The thing is not only do different countries speak Spanish with different accents and pronunciations but they also spell it the way they speak it.

Estaban do Argentinians speak Spanish, Portuguese or both?

Spanish! Portuguese is spoken in Brazil
Bienvenidos would be plural and Bienvenido singular

Muchas Gracias a todos!

[Brett Baldwin]

Woodworking and language lessons all in one thread. This forum really is amazingly informative. ;)

I was wondering what type of bow you are planning on making Esteban. This is a project I plan to try some time as well.

[Allen Grimes]

Spanish! Portuguese is spoken in Brazil
Bienvenidos would be plural and Bienvenido singular

Muchas Gracias a todos!Sabes que, yo no se que estaba pensando cuando dije lo que dije, pero tu si tienes razon. :p Es que como e escuchado que la gente dice trabajamo en ves de trabajamos yo lo mire igual. De hecho yo tengo mas experiencia con ingles que español aunque soy Mexicano y vivo en Mexico. I've lived in the US for the majority of my life.

[esteban wood]

Woodworking and language lessons all in one thread. This forum really is amazingly informative. ;)

I was wondering what type of bow you are planning on making Esteban. This is a project I plan to try some time as well.


I was "imaging" a Long Bow, First I will try (and practice) with a "self bow", that don´t need glue parts.
Then after that going to try with that long bow, still not sure but, a bow core in cedar.
My point is to analyze how it works changing the shape.

[esteban wood]

Sabes que, yo no se que estaba pensando cuando dije lo que dije, pero tu si tienes razon. :p Es que como e escuchado que la gente dice trabajamo en ves de trabajamos yo lo mire igual. De hecho yo tengo mas experiencia con ingles que español aunque soy Mexicano y vivo en Mexico. I've lived in the US for the majority of my life.

Buenisimo, (que hables español)
Aprovecho para preguntarte el nombre de una herramienta, en castellano es "cepillo" la traduccion seria "brush", pero me parece que la herramienta no lleva ese nombre en ingles.
(Describo: es para rebajar madera, suele ser una caja de madera, con una hoja filosa en angulo, y tiene manija)

Muchisimas gracias

[esteban wood]

Woodworking and language lessons all in one thread. This forum really is amazingly informative. ;)

I was wondering what type of bow you are planning on making Esteban. This is a project I plan to try some time as well.

I was plannin a long bow, with cedar core, but first for practice I will try a self bow (that is in one piece of wood, and don´t need glue).
My poins is to analyze the impact changing the shape.

Keep the "bow" contact

[Allen Grimes]

Buenisimo, (que hables español)
Aprovecho para preguntarte el nombre de una herramienta, en castellano es "cepillo" la traduccion seria "brush", pero me parece que la herramienta no lleva ese nombre en ingles.
(Describo: es para rebajar madera, suele ser una caja de madera, con una hoja filosa en angulo, y tiene manija)

Muchisimas graciasSe llama plane (plein).

[esteban wood]

Se llama plane (plein).

Thank you very much Allen!