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Mike Baker 2
08-05-2017, 11:40 PM
Hi guys. There is a Warranted Superior backsaw in good shape, relatively fine tooth that I can pick up cheap.Plate is of course fairly thick. Will a fairly fine backsaw work well for dovetails?

steven c newman
08-05-2017, 11:52 PM
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Been using this one for dovetails, box joints, and a little mortise work.....Disston No. 4....11ppi, 14" long.

Mike Baker 2
08-05-2017, 11:57 PM
Thanks, Steven. Do you get a relatively smooth cut with that saw?

steven c newman
08-06-2017, 12:00 AM
Yep. A bit of fuzz out the back of the cut, nothing real bad. Starts easy, and as long as the operator knows what he is doing....cuts a nice straight line.

Mike Baker 2
08-06-2017, 12:01 AM
Thanks, Steven!

Rob Luter
08-06-2017, 9:19 AM
Hi guys. There is a Warranted Superior backsaw in good shape, relatively fine tooth that I can pick up cheap.Plate is of course fairly thick. Will a fairly fine backsaw work well for dovetails?

In my admittedly limited experience, the tooth pitch, quality of tooth, and degree of saw set make more of a difference than the thickness of the plate. If it cuts straight and true, you can always keep it on the right side of the line. All that said, the finer the work, the finer the saw is a rule I live by. I have a couple small backsaws filed rip, and they don't compare to my LN Dovetail Saw when it comes to cutting smaller dovetails. I think it has mostly to do with the generous amount of set to the teeth. The cut just isn't as precise.

lowell holmes
08-06-2017, 11:09 AM
How do you think our saw collections got started? Of course, pick it up. :)

Jim Koepke
08-06-2017, 11:29 AM
It isn't the saw, it is the person holding the saw.

Watch Barnwood builders and you will occasionally see them cut accurate dovetails with a chain saw.

Of course they are very big dovetails.

jtk

Robert LaPlaca
08-06-2017, 11:49 AM
It isn't the saw, it is the person holding the saw.

Watch Barnwood builders and you will occasionally see them cut accurate dovetails with a chain saw.

Of course they are very big dovetails.

jtk

Jim, not to hijack this thread, but isn't that the most amazing thing to watch? Sherman make it look quite easy.

Jim Koepke
08-06-2017, 12:56 PM
Jim, not to hijack this thread, but isn't that the most amazing thing to watch?

Yes it is.

jtk

Rob Luter
08-06-2017, 2:14 PM
How do you think our saw collections got started? Of course, pick it up. :)

Well, yes.....

steven c newman
08-06-2017, 5:43 PM
This one came home today...
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12" Warranted Superior, 11ppi. Part of a small treasure trove today..
365411
Square is a 12" one. Rip saw is 5-1/2PPI...have started to rehab it....

Stewie Simpson
08-07-2017, 1:50 AM
In my admittedly limited experience, the tooth pitch, quality of tooth, and degree of saw set make more of a difference than the thickness of the plate. If it cuts straight and true, you can always keep it on the right side of the line. All that said, the finer the work, the finer the saw is a rule I live by. I have a couple small backsaws filed rip, and they don't compare to my LN Dovetail Saw when it comes to cutting smaller dovetails. I think it has mostly to do with the generous amount of set to the teeth. The cut just isn't as precise.

A saw plate gauge within the range of 0.018" to 0.020" is an excellent choice imo for a Dovetail Saw. Minimal set + a thinner saw plate equates to an ideal narrow kerf width.

An historic example, a 1918- to pre 1932 Disston #70 Dovetail Saw (0.018" gauge).

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/disston%2070%20dovetail%20saw/_DSC0113_zpsmf22pwxm.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/disston%2070%20dovetail%20saw/_DSC0113_zpsmf22pwxm.jpg.html)

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/swagman001/disston%2070%20dovetail%20saw/_DSC0112_zpscqjfb8bw.jpg (http://s1009.photobucket.com/user/swagman001/media/disston%2070%20dovetail%20saw/_DSC0112_zpscqjfb8bw.jpg.html)

Mike Baker 2
08-07-2017, 8:23 AM
Thank you, gentlemen. If it is still there when I get the chance to get back there, I'll get it. It mos likely will be.