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ken hatch
07-31-2017, 8:40 AM
For the last year or so I've been trying to come up with a way to haul my tools and a work bench in the motorhome. I've built a classic style tool chest but it was way too big and heavy to use and have now settled on Japanese tool boxes as the answer for tool storage/transportation. The hangup has been a usable work bench. I ran many designs through my head but for all there was always a "yes but", until I ran across Will Myers' video on building a Moravian work bench. All the "yes buts" were answered.

The build process is well under way. I found a nice European Beech 8/4 slab for the top and I'm using some HD construction grade DF for the base. I expect after the September Oregon trip I will re-make the base using Beech or Poplar. Once completed the bench will break down into 7 component parts the heaviest being the slab ( a 8/4 X 1500mm X 280mm hunk of Beech) heavy but still easy to manage.

You can't tell much from this photo but here are the almost completed legs in position for measuring/marking the location and size of the long stretcher mortises.

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After chopping the long stretcher mortises I will add a short dove tailed stretcher to the leg set to finish the base.

I have a wood screw on order for the vise, once it arrives the bench should be finished in a few days. BTW, I'm thinking about using a two tone Milk Paint finish on the base....Hide the DF don'tchknow.

ken

Mike Baker 2
07-31-2017, 8:57 AM
I like it.
On the bench build I'm in the middle of, I'll be connecting the top with lag bolts. It is being built from 2x4 lumber, so it's heavy, but not as heavy as a hardwood bench might be. Theoretically I could disconnect the top and stow it in my van(my base is much like yours), if I wanted to move it.

ken hatch
07-31-2017, 2:58 PM
I like it.
On the bench build I'm in the middle of, I'll be connecting the top with lag bolts. It is being built from 2x4 lumber, so it's heavy, but not as heavy as a hardwood bench might be. Theoretically I could disconnect the top and stow it in my van(my base is much like yours), if I wanted to move it.

Thanks Mike,

Just a question, why lag bolts instead of pegs? If you do use lag bolts, use SPAX brand. HD carries them. They are self tapping, although I normally will drill a pilot hole, and will not break like normal lag bolts.

ken

Mike Baker 2
07-31-2017, 3:20 PM
My bench will spend it's entire life outside, so the base will sit on concrete blocks which sit on the ground. Even so, I reckon the base will rot faster than the top, as it's closer to the ground. With the lag bolts, I can pull the top off and slip another base under it if I need to.
And I'll check out the SPAX bolts. Thanks.

ken hatch
07-31-2017, 5:14 PM
Working the construction grade DF for the work bench base was a reminder of the importance of sharp tools and even more the need to have a sharpening bench close and ready. What ever the wood of all the tools and appliances in the shop the sharpening bench is second in importance only to the main work bench. Mine is located just off the left end of the main bench, just a step or two away.

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This sharpening bench was the first work bench I built. At the time I hadn't a clue about anything, I had started reading Fine Woodworking and knew I needed a wood working bench but couldn't afford a ready made. I don't know if you have seen very many Russian airplanes, if not you may not understand the reference, The bench is like a Russian airplane, if you didn't look too hard it looked somewhat like a wood working bench. I made it out of SYP because that was all I could afford, not knowing that CS would many years later make a SYP bench fashionable. Bottom line over the years it has worked well in several different shop roles, the last being as a sharpening bench.


I've tried many configurations for the sharpening bench, just the primary stones on top of the bench, both oil and water stones on either end, even at one time having a Tormek on the bench. What I've settled on is just the primary use stones along with the primary strop, horse butt leather with green stuff, on the bench and all other stones stored in cabinets above the bench.

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In the stone pond are my goto stones a med India and a Translucent Arkansas oil stone, Sometimes I will change from the Translucent to a Hard Black Arkansas. The Translucent has a better "feel" than the Hard Black, it has a little "tooth" where the Hard Black is slicker than snot. Scratch pattern and speed between the two are about the same. Go figure. Right now there are a couple of Spyderco stones sitting between the Arkansas stones because yesterday I had to sharpen one of the few A2 irons in the shop. The Spyderco's will return to the oil stone cabinet soon. On the far right you may be able to see a diamond lapping plate, I used it the other day to lap and re-fresh some oil stones Ralph at the accidental woodworker blog was kind enough to send me. The lapping plate will also return to its place in the oil stone storage cabinet above the bench.

The oil stone storage cabinet also stores misc junk and several (way too many) honing guides.

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In a separate cabinet to the right are my water stones, man made stones on the bottom shelf and natural Japanese water stones on the top shelf.

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It has taken time to get to this point, the old story of kissing frogs, but for now unless I get another bright idea to try this is my basic sharpening set up.


If interested click 'em to big 'em.

ken

Pat Barry
07-31-2017, 5:21 PM
If this is the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKI4aQtIRlg) it looks like a very nice project. Where will you carry this?

Mike Baker 2
07-31-2017, 6:51 PM
Very nice. I use India and Arkansas stones when honing my chisels and planes, but I carry a 400/1k diamond plate and a pasted strop with me to the bench when I work for touch up, although I seldom need to use anything more than the strop, since I tend to refresh an edge early rather than later.
I have a big wooden crate that used to hold industrial equipment that I use as a secondary table for keeping the tools and parts I'm not working with clear of the bench, but I intend to build a proper bench for that at a later date.
I need to complete my primary bench and throw some Thompson's Water Seal on it first.

Patrick Chase
07-31-2017, 7:35 PM
Thanks Mike,

Just a question, why lag bolts instead of pegs? If you do use lag bolts, use SPAX brand. HD carries them. They are self tapping, although I normally will drill a pilot hole, and will not break like normal lag bolts.

Spax are nice, so are GRK RSS (http://www.leevalley.com/us/Hardware/page.aspx?p=69600&cat=3,41306,69644&ap=1) screws. Both have a few advantages:

They're self-tapping as you said
They're made of hardened/high-strength steel, so you can use a smaller-diameter screw for any required strength than with a common lag bolt. You still need depth to get good retention in the wood, of course.
They both use non-camming drivers. Spax are generally square-head-drive, while GRK use Torx drivers.

With all of that said, when building something like this that will be repeatedly set up and torn down I usually go with long 1/4-20 threaded inserts (something like this (https://www.amazon.com/Hillman-Group-57113-0-787-Inch-12-Pack/dp/B00MND1N7Q/ref=sr_1_7?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1501543992&sr=1-7&keywords=1%2F4-20+threaded+insert)) and machine screws. Traditional Neander (tm) ones, of course :-).

ken hatch
07-31-2017, 7:36 PM
If this is the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKI4aQtIRlg) it looks like a very nice project. Where will you carry this?

Pat,

That is the one. I'm building close to his build. The largest component will be the slab and it is sized to fit in the motorhome's forward port side storage bin. The legs, vise, tool tray, and long stretchers will also fit the same bin.

We leave for a month in Oregon Labor Day weekend. If the vise screw makes it as advertised the bench will get its shake down run then.

BTW, I finished one of the long stretcher mortises this morning before the heat (over 105F) ran me out of the shop. Just three more to go and the base will be finished. Because of the size of the mortise I had to chop double mortises and then chisel out the middle. It went reasonably quickly, less than an hour, I would guess a little over 30 minuets to finish what is in effect four mortises plus chopping out the middle.

ken

Patrick Chase
07-31-2017, 7:39 PM
The bench is like a Russian airplane, if you didn't look too hard it looked somewhat like a wood working bench. I made it out of SYP because that was all I could afford, not knowing that CS would many years later make a SYP bench fashionable. Bottom line over the years it has worked well in several different shop roles, the last being as a sharpening bench.

The thing with Russian airplanes is that they can be ugly and poorly finished (non-flush rivet-heads, etc) but they usually are quite functional and lethal once they take to the air. There are much worse things that a tool could be compared to :-).

Mel Fulks
07-31-2017, 8:29 PM
The thing with Russian airplanes is that they can be ugly and poorly finished (non-flush rivet-heads, etc) but they usually are quite functional and lethal once they take to the air. There are much worse things that a tool could be compared to :-).
Might be that he only meant "not the best"

ken hatch
07-31-2017, 11:48 PM
The thing with Russian airplanes is that they can be ugly and poorly finished (non-flush rivet-heads, etc) but they usually are quite functional and lethal once they take to the air. There are much worse things that a tool could be compared to :-).


Might be that he only meant "not the best"

Have you seen their copy of the Falcon 50, It looks like a cartoon version with tractor tires, their version of a 727 is even worse, looks like the engineers got a 30 sec peek at a Boeing 727 and then built it from memory. Of course if you have ever landed on a Russian runway you would understand the tractor tires.

Patrick is correct in some aspects, ten, twelve years ago I watched one of the Russian vectored thrust fighters put on a show at the Paris Air Show. What a display of the impossible, proof that with enough thrust you can make anything fly.

My bench's relationship to a "real" wood workers bench was about the same as the Russian Flacon 50's was to a Dassault Falcon 50.

ken hatch
08-01-2017, 12:23 PM
Chopping the mortises for the long stretchers. The mortises were sized 1 1/2 across and angled 15 degrees from top to bottom to keep the stretcher parallel. Also the mortise and tenon need to have a slightly loose fit for ease of remove and replace. I had a few options: Drill and pare the waste, chop with the 1 1/2" bench chisel, or chop a double mortise and then chop and pare the middle waste. I went with my goto pig sticker mortise chisel to chop a double mortise and then chop out and pare the middle. Works well and quickly as long as you do not go all Conan on 'em. Tap, tap lever, tap, tap, lever, takes about 30 minutes per finished mortise including wiping sweat off my face and glasses. And there was a lot of sweat, it was over 105F yesterday afternoon with high RH for the desert....Monsoon season don'tchknow.

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Matthew Hutchinson477
08-01-2017, 1:32 PM
I'll be curious to see the results of this build. I'm in a similar situation in that I need a workbench that is easily portable because I move frequently and will be continuing to do so for at least the next 5 years. After trying to get by without a real workbench for the past year or so I've finally learned my lesson, now realize that I just won't be able to accomplish much without a real workbench, and I have also settled on the Moravian bench after quite a bit of time looking and thinking. It'll be a couple months before I can even get started but in the meantime I'm hoping to flesh out the details of how this build will go.

It'd be great to come up with something that I can move by myself and fit into the bed of my pickup truck but that might be asking too much. In Will Myers' article he said that his benchtop weighed 97 lbs. A bit much for one person to carry. One possible solution could be to make a split-top bench so that each side of the benchtop is manageable for a single person. Jeff Branch has a series of blog posts on a workbench he built with this idea.

andy bessette
08-01-2017, 1:46 PM
Light weight and portability go against the grain of usability.

ken hatch
08-01-2017, 1:52 PM
I'll be curious to see the results of this build. I'm in a similar situation in that I need a workbench that is easily portable because I move frequently and will be continuing to do so for at least the next 5 years. After trying to get by without a real workbench for the past year or so I've finally learned my lesson, now realize that I just won't be able to accomplish much without a real workbench, and I have also settled on the Moravian bench after quite a bit of time looking and thinking. It'll be a couple months before I can even get started but in the meantime I'm hoping to flesh out the details of how this build will go.

It'd be great to come up with something that I can move by myself and fit into the bed of my pickup truck but that might be asking too much. In Will Myers' article he said that his benchtop weighed 97 lbs. A bit much for one person to carry. One possible solution could be to make a split-top bench so that each side of the benchtop is manageable for a single person. Jeff Branch has a series of blog posts on a workbench he built with this idea.

Matthew,

I haven't cut my slab to size yet so I do not know how much it will weight but being a 8/4 x 280mm and some place around 1500mm long I expect it will be a bit less than 100lbs. I will be surprised if it goes over 60lbs. While I have a French/English bench for my main bench in reality 100mm slabs are overkill unless your bench is longer. Also 280-300mm is plenty wide for the working area, the only reason to go wider is for stability. While I'm not a big fan of tool trays, they can be handy and help add the extra width for stability without adding a lot of pounds.

ken

ken hatch
08-01-2017, 1:54 PM
Light weight and portability go against the grain of usability.

Not necessarily.

Pat Barry
08-01-2017, 3:48 PM
Matthew,

I haven't cut my slab to size yet so I do not know how much it will weight but being a 8/4 x 280mm and some place around 1500mm long I expect it will be a bit less than 100lbs. I will be surprised if it goes over 60lbs. While I have a French/English bench for my main bench in reality 100mm slabs are overkill unless your bench is longer. Also 280-300mm is plenty wide for the working area, the only reason to go wider is for stability. While I'm not a big fan of tool trays, they can be handy and help add the extra width for stability without adding a lot of pounds.

ken
I agree with this. the 8/4 beech top should be plenty stiff. The only thing might be if you are chopping in the middle of the top. You can usually move your chopping more directly over the legs to improve support for this type of work as needed. The bench length of 60 inches should also be very fine (my own bench is 60 inches by 2 1/4" thick laminated Ash and it is plenty stiff and rigid for me). The Morovian design should help considerably with end to end racking resistance. All in all, you need to make some compromises for such a project (any project for that matter), in this case weight and manageability for frequent movement and setup/teardown versus bulk size and mass benefits more important for a fixed bench. I might be tempted to even reduce it lengthwise from 60 to 48 inches although I don't know what you are planning for projects.

Patrick Chase
08-01-2017, 7:45 PM
Patrick is correct in some aspects, ten, twelve years ago I watched one of the Russian vectored thrust fighters put on a show at the Paris Air Show. What a display of the impossible, proof that with enough thrust you can make anything fly.


I think that you're confusing those ex-Soviet fighters with the F-4 Phantom, commonly described as "a triumph of thrust over aerodynamics" :-).

Seriously, the TsAGI-developed planform used by the 4th-generation Soviet fighters (MiG-29 and Su-27) was an excellent bit of aerodynamics. Those fighters could do maneuvers like Pugachev's Cobra even before the addition of thrust-vectoring. The biggest problem with them is that their systems (radar, fire-control, etc) weren't and still aren't up to the mark of their Western competitors.

The Russians/Soviets were always big on rough-field performance.

Pat Barry
08-01-2017, 8:25 PM
I think that you're confusing those ex-Soviet fighters with the F-4 Phantom, commonly described as "a triumph of thrust over aerodynamics" :-).

Seriously, the TsAGI-developed planform used by the 4th-generation Soviet fighters (MiG-29 and Su-27) was an excellent bit of aerodynamics. Those fighters could do maneuvers like Pugachev's Cobra even before the addition of thrust-vectoring. The biggest problem with them is that their systems (radar, fire-control, etc) weren't and still aren't up to the mark of their Western competitors.

The Russians/Soviets were always big on rough-field performance.
Patrick, the breadth and depth of your knowledge is convincing me that you are in fact, an experimental Google AI bot. I have to see a woodworking project to be somewhat convinced otherwise.

Patrick Chase
08-01-2017, 9:59 PM
Patrick, the breadth and depth of your knowledge is convincing me that you are in fact, an experimental Google AI bot. I have to see a woodworking project to be somewhat convinced otherwise.

My colleagues at a former employer used to call me "Jeopardy Guy". On the plus side I could get free drinks by volunteering to help people with those trivia games in bars. As with pool you (think you) do better with a couple sheets to the wind...

Stew Denton
08-02-2017, 12:38 AM
Ken,

I am thinking your slab may weigh even less than 60 lbs. I figure 280mm is about 11 inches, so that means you have o.917 board foot per running foot for 1 inch thick, but if your 8/4 is a full 2 inches when finished, that would mean 1.83 board feet per running foot, and I am figuring a length of 5 feet (even though 1500mm is closer to 59 inches) which amounts to 9.17 board feet for the slab. The wood data base shows dried European beach at 44 lbs per cubic foot, and since 9.17 board feet amounts to 0.764 cubic feet, this would give an approximate weight of a bit less than 34 lbs. (I carried out the figures to several places, but rounded all of the numbers listed.)

Anyway, that is what I came up with.

Stew

ken hatch
08-02-2017, 1:25 AM
Ken,

I am thinking your slab may weigh even less than 60 lbs. I figure 280mm is about 11 inches, so that means you have o.917 board foot per running foot for 1 inch thick, but if your 8/4 is a full 2 inches when finished, that would mean 1.83 board feet per running foot, and I am figuring a length of 5 feet (even though 1500mm is closer to 59 inches) which amounts to 9.17 board feet for the slab. The wood data base shows dried European beach at 44 lbs per cubic foot, and since 9.17 board feet amounts to 0.764 cubic feet, this would give an approximate weight of a bit less than 34 lbs. (I carried out the figures to several places, but rounded all of the numbers listed.)

Anyway, that is what I came up with.

Stew

Stew,

I expect you are very close. The current sized slab is a little over 8' and even with my back in full revolt mode I had no trouble moving it from the truck to the shop.

ken

Mike Baker 2
08-02-2017, 8:18 AM
I think that you're confusing those ex-Soviet fighters with the F-4 Phantom, commonly described as "a triumph of thrust over aerodynamics" :-).

Seriously, the TsAGI-developed planform used by the 4th-generation Soviet fighters (MiG-29 and Su-27) was an excellent bit of aerodynamics. Those fighters could do maneuvers like Pugachev's Cobra even before the addition of thrust-vectoring. The biggest problem with them is that their systems (radar, fire-control, etc) weren't and still aren't up to the mark of their Western competitors.

The Russians/Soviets were always big on rough-field performance.

I worked on the F4 in my time in the USAF. Other planes as well, but the Phantom was the primary on our base.
It is an incredibly robust aircraft. I have seen film of combat damage in Vietnam. Some of them did not even look like aircraft anymore, yet the pilots brought them in to land safely. I was taught that you could lose 2/3 of the wing surface of the F4, and as long as you could point the nose towards the sky, you could fly it. I believe it.
I have also seen examples of what the US Marines called a "repair", that was literally bubble gum and bailing wire( not even joking). There is a panel on the spine of the aircraft, though I can't remember it's number. It is a structural part of the aircraft. I have seen countless USMC Phantoms with this panel held on with bailing wire. A testament not only to the durability of the jet, but to the bravery of the US Marine, I think.
When one of those came through our base, I always grounded it until I could make a proper repair.

ken hatch
08-02-2017, 8:27 AM
I think that you're confusing those ex-Soviet fighters with the F-4 Phantom, commonly described as "a triumph of thrust over aerodynamics" :-).

Seriously, the TsAGI-developed planform used by the 4th-generation Soviet fighters (MiG-29 and Su-27) was an excellent bit of aerodynamics. Those fighters could do maneuvers like Pugachev's Cobra even before the addition of thrust-vectoring. The biggest problem with them is that their systems (radar, fire-control, etc) weren't and still aren't up to the mark of their Western competitors.

The Russians/Soviets were always big on rough-field performance.

Patrick,

If you have landed on a Russian airport you would know why.

ken

Matthew Hutchinson477
08-02-2017, 10:18 AM
Stew,

I expect you are very close. The current sized slab is a little over 8' and even with my back in full revolt mode I had no trouble moving it from the truck to the shop.

ken

Do you not worry about stability and sturdiness at that weight? That seems awfully light if you plan on doing any heavy hand planing.

ken hatch
08-02-2017, 11:49 AM
Do you not worry about stability and sturdiness at that weight? That seems awfully light if you plan on doing any heavy hand planing.

Mathew,

Go back and see what the bench will be used for, an easily portable work bench to be carried in one of the cargo bins of a Diesel Pusher Motorhome. Not a main bench for the shop, not for prepping and dimensioning rough lumber or even building large furniture but a work bench that will allow me to fart around with wood in the RV park or camping site while MsBubba and Sweet Maggie Dog go off on their walks. I can't think of a better way to spend the day than out in the woods by a lake or ocean with Sam the Wonder Dog at my feet, a single malt in one hand, and a work bench in front.

If it needs more weight that is easy to take care of with a couple of sand bags as long as the design and joints are good. Benches are in some ways like humans, it is easy to add weight but almost impossible to take it off.

ken

Patrick Chase
08-02-2017, 12:06 PM
Patrick,

If you have landed on a Russian airport you would know why.

ken

I have not, but I've heard stories. My favorite example of "design for Russian airfields" is the fact that the original MiG-29 had a second set of air intakes above the wing root for use on the ground. The Su-27 and newer MiG-29 derivatives just use a screen in the main intakes to block FOD, though.

John Kananis
08-02-2017, 12:27 PM
I have not, but I've heard stories. My favorite example of "design for Russian airfields" is the fact that the original MiG-29 had a second set of air intakes above the wing root for use on the ground. The Su-27 and newer MiG-29 derivatives just use a screen in the main intakes to block FOD, though.

Lol, Patrick, you are a bot - I'm convinced. Far beyond just "the Jeopardy guy".

Ken, looking forward to the rest of this thread.

ken hatch
08-02-2017, 2:30 PM
One more long stretcher mortise to go, it will have to wait until tomorrow. Shop is already too hot to work, I'm sweating all over my tools. Here in the desert usually only two thing will rust your tools; sweat and blood. So far this morning I've dodged the blood and only during Monsoon do you sweat. Anyway I like what I'm seeing so far and what little research I've done on the Moravians indicates the bench may work very well. This style bench was a job site bench, unlike the English who tended to build their benches on the site the Moravians made their job site benches portable.


Botton line I'm looking forward to giving it a go. Here is a photo of one long stretcher in place, waiting for the last mortise for the other side. Here is a photo:

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BTW, major butt scratching before chopping the third mortise, much back and forth to insure the mortise was placed correctly. Simple but, I've been known to screw it up and the older I get the more likely I will.

ken

Matthew Hutchinson477
08-02-2017, 5:40 PM
Mathew,

Go back and see what the bench will be used for, an easily portable work bench to be carried in one of the cargo bins of a Diesel Pusher Motorhome. Not a main bench for the shop, not for prepping and dimensioning rough lumber or even building large furniture but a work bench that will allow me to fart around with wood in the RV park or camping site while MsBubba and Sweet Maggie Dog go off on their walks. I can't think of a better way to spend the day than out in the woods by a lake or ocean with Sam the Wonder Dog at my feet, a single malt in one hand, and a work bench in front.

If it needs more weight that is easy to take care of with a couple of sand bags as long as the design and joints are good. Benches are in some ways like humans, it is easy to add weight but almost impossible to take it off.

ken

Aha--no rough dimensioning. Thanks for the clarification.

ken hatch
08-03-2017, 1:35 PM
There is still a lot to go but I wanted to see how it will look...Not too bad. There is a set of small dove tailed stretchers to fit near the bottom of the legs. The tops of the legs will be planed flush across and the pegs to hold the top will need installing. All the tenons need trimming flush or to length as will the slab and someday glue and pegs to keep it all together.

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After that a tool tray to fill out the top and a vise once the screw arrives.

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The good news: You don't have to squint too hard to see a bench.

ken

Graham Haydon
08-03-2017, 3:24 PM
Great progress, Ken. Workbench for a motor home, that's dedication. Tip of the hat!

Pat Barry
08-03-2017, 7:28 PM
Nice work Ken!

James Pallas
08-03-2017, 9:14 PM
Great Mobil bench Ken. Leave the top long and you can but it up against a tree, or maybe some cacti in your case:)
Jim

ken hatch
08-04-2017, 1:10 AM
Thanks guys,

It has been a fun build. I expect if it works I will build another just because....What can I say other than I enjoy building work benches.

Tomorrow I start chopping the tusk mortises and over the weekend glue up and pin the legs. Lots to do and what is left will be slower....It is kinda like framing a building, it's lots of fun and goes fast. At the end of the day you can sit back with beer in hand and say "I did that", then comes the finish work that takes forever and isn't half as much fun to see at the end of the day.

ken

ken hatch
08-04-2017, 11:52 AM
The first of the tusk tenon keys is finished, just three more to go. Once all the keys are fitted I will clean up the inside faces of the legs then glue and peg those suckers together.

I can't claim to be in the short rows just yet, but I can see "em.

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ken

Pat Barry
08-04-2017, 1:33 PM
The first of the tusk tenon keys is finished, just three more to go. Once all the keys are fitted I will clean up the inside faces of the legs then glue and peg those suckers together.

I can't claim to be in the short rows just yet, but I can see "em.

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ken
I figured you wouldn't be gluing in the tenon keys so that it could all be easily dis-assembled / re-assembled.

ken hatch
08-05-2017, 8:51 AM
I figured you wouldn't be gluing in the tenon keys so that it could all be easily dis-assembled / re-assembled.

Pat that is the beauty of this bench, it breaks into 7 modules, none too heavy or large and needs only a hammer to put it together.

Here is the progress so far this morning. I made it to the shop early this AM not that it has helped much. Sweat is pouring and breaks are often. But whatever, the bench is taking shape. I finished chopping the second tusk mortise and fitting the tenon key. After a short "cool down" and posting of the morning results I'll get back in the saddle.

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ken

Patrick Chase
08-05-2017, 12:11 PM
Pat that is the beauty of this bench, it breaks into 7 modules, none too heavy or large and needs only a hammer to put it together.

IIRC medieval banquet tables used similar joinery to allow breakdown and storage.

ken hatch
08-05-2017, 12:56 PM
IIRC medieval banquet tables used similar joinery to allow breakdown and storage.

Patrick,

I expect you are correct. Shame we tend to lose the knowledge of our ancestors. I know most of the time working wood if I can figure out how it was done in the 18th and 19th Century that will be the best way.

Here are the finished long stretchers.

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If I can stand the heat this afternoon I will fit the small dovetail stretchers to the legs just below the long stretchers. Once the dovetail stretchers are fitted it will be trim, clean up, glue up and peg to finish the base.

Stew Denton
08-06-2017, 3:17 PM
Hi Ken,

Great job on the stretchers! The build has been very enjoyable and educational to follow.

A word of warning....don't figure out that the granddaughter of yours needs a small play table, I remember what happened to the traveling tool box you were making a while back....it became a toy box for the grand daughter. I think we grandpas are far too easy of a mark for our grand kids that way....or is it the daughters and grandmas look at a work bench or tool chest we are making and think it would be ideal for the grand daugher? In such cases I am bound to loose out, maybe you too.

Stew

Matt Lau
08-14-2017, 4:29 PM
What type of bench will you be making?

Is it a Moravian workbench?

the workmanship looks nice.

ken hatch
08-14-2017, 5:51 PM
What type of bench will you be making?

Is it a Moravian workbench?

the workmanship looks nice.

Matt,

Thanks, yes it is a portable Moravian bench. Here is the latest photo, I'm waiting on the vise screw to finish installing the vise and chop. Once the vise install is finished the bench will be ready to go.

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ken