Opinions on treasure chest

[James Pallas]

I making a treasure chest for my new great nephew. I'm making a curved top. I book matched the top two segments and slip matched the sides to make for easier planing. After glueing up I see that the grain match is very good. I had thought I may round the top but now I don't want to mess up the grain match. Here are some pics, cell phone so not great. What do you all think.
Jim

[Rick Malakoff]

Boy that's a tough call, looks good the way it sits, can you make another one with some less figured wood with a rounded top and save this one the way it is.

[Mel Fulks]

I would keep that one for me and finish the build to my own taste. Make nephew one of pine brightly painted with real pirate stuff. You are making a fine piece but nothing that is going to attract a baby's eye. When he is about three he will have long and fond memories of it; and hold onto it for his whole life.

[James Pallas]

Boy that's a tough call, looks good the way it sits, can you make another one with some less figured wood with a rounded top and save this one the way it is.
i couldn't decide myself. It is a special build. Made to last a lifetime. Not a toy box for him now.
Jim

[James Pallas]

I would keep that one for me and finish the build to my own taste. Make nephew one of pine brightly painted with real pirate stuff. You are making a fine piece but nothing that is going to attract a baby's eye. When he is about three he will have long and fond memories of it; and hold onto it for his whole life.
It will be for him to hold a life's worth of treasures. If he needs a toy box I will build that too. I think Auntie will load him up with those things. This chest will hold those special things like sports medals or special coins, or straight A report cards.
Jim

[Mel Fulks]

I understand , James. I guess I see the word treasure differently. But it oftens happens that a fine piece held "in trust" untill child is older become Mom's for a long time and child kinda loses the sense of the gift as a celebration of his birth.

[Karl Andersson]

I think regardless of the grain that the top is better "faceted' as it is than if you rounded it over- it has more visual interest than a half- cylinder. There are still enough grain differences between boards that the faceted appearance would also justify the grain changes. If you were going to do some metal (brass or steel) banding across the top, or long hinge straps, they would look good with the angled bends. The round top might look too much like a mailbox...

Just some thoughts from one who built his daughters treasure boxes, buried them in the yard, and had them go on a hunt to find them- with maps, weird clues they had to investigate, riddles, etc.. They are almost 30 now and still have their boxes on their dressers, with the kinds of things you've listed inside.
Karl

[James Pallas]

I think regardless of the grain that the top is better "faceted' as it is than if you rounded it over- it has more visual interest than a half- cylinder. There are still enough grain differences between boards that the faceted appearance would also justify the grain changes. If you were going to do some metal (brass or steel) banding across the top, or long hinge straps, they would look good with the angled bends. The round top might look too much like a mailbox...

Just some thoughts from one who built his daughters treasure boxes, buried them in the yard, and had them go on a hunt to find them- with maps, weird clues they had to investigate, riddles, etc.. They are almost 30 now and still have their boxes on their dressers, with the kinds of things you've listed inside.
Karl
Thanks Karl. You make some very good points. Just what I was looking for.. I did notice where you are located also. Spent a good part of my life near there. It's Blue Crab season, hooray stuffed Rockfish, yummy.
Jim

[Malcolm Schweizer]

Boy, you did a great job with getting that grain to match. Actually, I believe that if you decide to go with rounding it over, you will still have matched grain as long as you round it evenly. The two matching grains will be removed equal amounts and should still line up.

I am on the fence- I think it would look good either way. I would have leaned towards saying round it over had there not been pictures, but looking at the pics, it looks good faceted as well. Happy to have further confused you. :-)

[Mel Fulks]

May be that I can redeem myself here....Karl makes a good point about the facets. Facets will never appear to the untrained eye as rotary cut plywood. Don't let your good matching and joinery work against you.

[James Pallas]

Thanks Malcolm. The grain pitches about 30 degrees on the edge average so I think it may sawtooth it a bit more then it is now if I take an eighth or so at the joint. I think it would good either way too. No more confusion here than usual, I tend to always be in that state.
Jim

[James Pallas]

No redemption necessary Mel. When you ask for an opinion you get them all and they are indeed helpful. Thanks for your input.
Jim

[James Pallas]

The verdict is in! I squared the ends and cleaned it up a bit. It's less then 1/2 mm out in width over 16". I know better than to mess with it further and loose. I've had more than 1 piece go wonky when thinning the edges an 1/8" or so. The facets stay as is.
Jim

[Jerry Olexa]

good decision AND good work!!!!

[James Pallas]

good decision AND good work!!!!
Thank you Jerry. Getting busy making the ends. These lids will go south unless buttoned up.
Jim

[Brian Holcombe]

Nice work Jim, this is sure to be a really cool piece.

[James Pallas]

Nice work Jim, this is sure to be a really cool piece.
Thank you Brian. We shall see how it comes out.
Jim

[Pat Barry]

I agree that the faceted look is nice. Did you spline the joints or just glue them up? I'm thinking no difference in strength, maybe just an easier glueup. Curious to see the ends. Also, what are the lid dimensions?

[James Pallas]

I agree that the faceted look is nice. Did you spline the joints or just glue them up? I'm thinking no difference in strength, maybe just an easier glueup. Curious to see the ends. Also, what are the lid dimensions?
Thank you Pat. No splines just glued. Splines are a machine tool thing I feel. Working a plow plane at an angle is a really big chore. The glue up is easy, I made a fixture to hold it together. I'm working on the ends as I can. This lid is 16" L. X 10" W.
Jim

[Pat Barry]

Thank you Pat. No splines just glued. Splines are a machine tool thing I feel. Working a plow plane at an angle is a really big chore. The glue up is easy, I made a fixture to hold it together. I'm working on the ends as I can. This lid is 16" L. X 10" W.
Jim
I'm curious about your fixture. Am envisioning the desired profile shape so you could reference off it for your clamping. Was that the way you did it?

[James Pallas]

I'm curious about your fixture. Am envisioning the desired profile shape so you could reference off it for your clamping. Was that the way you did it?
Pat here are a couple of pics of how I approach it. The fixture allows me to reference the inside. That makes it easier to clean up the inside and throws the error to the outside. It is far easier to plane the outside.
Jim

[Pat Barry]

Very nice James. I can see you put a lot of thought and effort into your jigs. That would certainly eliminate the issues with it alignment.

[Mike Baker 2]

I think regardless of the grain that the top is better "faceted' as it is than if you rounded it over- it has more visual interest than a half- cylinder. There are still enough grain differences between boards that the faceted appearance would also justify the grain changes. If you were going to do some metal (brass or steel) banding across the top, or long hinge straps, they would look good with the angled bends. The round top might look too much like a mailbox...

Just some thoughts from one who built his daughters treasure boxes, buried them in the yard, and had them go on a hunt to find them- with maps, weird clues they had to investigate, riddles, etc.. They are almost 30 now and still have their boxes on their dressers, with the kinds of things you've listed inside.
Karl
THAT is waayyy beyond cool!
James, the box is beautiful. Nice work!

[James Pallas]

THAT is waayyy beyond cool!
James, the box is beautiful. Nice work!
Thank you Mike. It's all fun to boot.
Jim

[Karl Andersson]

It does look great - show it to us when you're done. And yes, the rockfish are still great (stuffed or not) but blue crabs cost more for a dozen than a whole bushel cost when I was in high school, so they're only an occasional treat.
Karl

[Mike Baker 2]

My church went fishing for rockfish in the Chesapeake last year. We had a great time, and I ate rockfish almost every day for about two weeks. :)
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[James Pallas]

It does look great - show it to us when you're done. And yes, the rockfish are still great (stuffed or not) but blue crabs cost more for a dozen than a whole bushel cost when I was in high school, so they're only an occasional treat.
Karl
I haven't been able to go back for 5 years. I miss it a lot. My friend of 65 years still lives there. We have our secret place for "Chicken Neckin" for 40 years. Most every trip it's 3 or 4 dozen in about three hours. Good fun and good eating.
Jim

[James Pallas]

My church went fishing for rockfish in the Chesapeake last year. We had a great time, and I ate rockfish almost every day for about two weeks. :)
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I like Rockfish (striper) the best of all. Fished many hours for them. Biggest for me was 40 lbs. Some people mount fish like that, you have to waste the best part of it if you do that, The eating part.
Jim

[Mike Baker 2]

I like Rockfish (striper) the best of all. Fished many hours for them. Biggest for me was 40 lbs. Some people mount fish like that, you have to waste the best part of it if you do that, The eating part.
Jim

LOL, yep.
The only fish I ever mounted was a large bass I caught in a pond around here. Will never do it again. It's beautiful, but every time I look at it I think how much better I could have spent the money. I prefer catching and eating. :D

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