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Mario Brissette
10-25-2005, 2:41 PM
Hi everyone !

I want to know if someone here with a DW735 planer has try to plug the DW735 in a dust collector ? I have the accessory collection bag but I'm not very happy about the small dust that it doesn't filter. I asked to the technical support of DeWalt how many CFM the blower is but they answered me that they don't recommand me to plug it in a dust collector. I'm sure if I choose a dust collector that have more CFM than the DW735 blower it will be ok. I'm just curious if someone here try it ...

Thanks !

Andrew Ault
10-25-2005, 2:50 PM
Perhaps the problem is that negative pressure will cause the built-in evacuation motor to spin too fast and be damaged.

Mario Brissette
10-25-2005, 3:16 PM
The blower's motor is the same than the planer's motor. Only one motor. At one end, you have the gear for the knives and at the other end, you have the blower.

Don Baer
10-25-2005, 3:24 PM
Mario,
When thsi product was reviewed they hooked it up to a DC. Here is a link to the article.

http://www.newwoodworker.com/reviews/dw735rvu.html

Andrew Ault
10-25-2005, 3:30 PM
I found a picture of the DW735 hooked up to a dust collector on DeWalt's site:

Bob Marino
10-25-2005, 3:41 PM
Mario,

I have the 735 and hooked it up to my Oneida, never gave a thouht to doing otherwise. Not a speck of dust either!

Bob

Chris Mann
10-25-2005, 3:41 PM
I use mine with my dc all the time. No problems. I was not aware they didn't want you hooking it up to a dc. Seems kinda odd since they include an adapter for it.

Mario Brissette
10-25-2005, 4:04 PM
Thanks all !

Chris and Bob, how many CFM is your dust collector ? I just want to be sure that I choose a dust collector more powerful in term of CFM than the dewalt blower. In the review that Don Baer mentionned, the author said he has no problem with his delta 50-760 dust collector, which is a 1200 CFM. Delta also sell a 650 CFM(model AP400). I think it won't be enough.

Tom Hintz
10-25-2005, 4:22 PM
Mario,
I have run the DW735 with and without the Delta DC hooked up (as shown in my review); and can not notice a change in rpm of the planer. The 4"-diameter connector that came with it would seem like a goofy thing to include if it was not to be hooked to a dust collector. As a mater of fact, making a planer that can't be hooked to a dust collector would be very strange.
I have heard from many people using the DW735 and no one has had any trouble with the dust collection, or anything else really.

Byron Trantham
10-25-2005, 4:39 PM
I have my DC hooked up to my 735 and it works fine [for about a year now].

Mario Brissette
10-25-2005, 4:42 PM
As a mater of fact, making a planer that can't be hooked to a dust collector would be very strange.

That's what I told to the technical support of DeWalt.

I'll copy you my conversation with them.



<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=text colSpan=2>Mario,

We do not recommend doing so because the vacs will fill-up in no time due to the efficiency of the DW735 (95-98% of chips) versus other planers with dust extraction via a vac adapter and vacuum. That's why we recommend that you not use it. It was a major source of frustration for our testers who found that they loved the product with a DW7353.

Thank you

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=text bgColor=#a0c4de>Customer (Mario Brissette)</TD><TD class=text align=right bgColor=#a0c4de>10/21/2005 02:11 PM</TD></TR><TR><TD class=text colSpan=2>Why you don't recommand using a dust collector ? You option bag doesn't work fine for me. Selling a planer that can't be connect to a dust collector is something I can' t understand. Next time I'll plan to buy a planer, I'll think twice before choosing a planer with a blower (whether it is a dewalt or not.). I really need to know how many CFm it blow because I want to choose a dust collector that have more cfm than the planer.

Thanks

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=text bgColor=#c6d3ba>Response (Jeff)</TD><TD class=text align=right bgColor=#c6d3ba>10/21/2005 12:13 PM</TD></TR><TR><TD class=text colSpan=2>Hello Mario, and thanks for using DEWALT's on-line support.

We do not have a CFM rating available for this unit as we do not recommend using this unit with any sort of dust collector.

Thank you for allowing us the opportunity to serve you. If your question remains unresolved or if you require additional information please update this incident.

Sincerely,

Jeff

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=text bgColor=#a0c4de>Customer (Mario Brissette)</TD><TD class=text align=right bgColor=#a0c4de>10/20/2005 03:33 PM</TD></TR><TR><TD class=text colSpan=2>A few months ago, I asked you a question but didn't receive yet an answer. You said that you'll investigate the question. I ask you how many CFM the DW735 blow away. I want to plug my DW735 planer to a dust collector but want a dust collector that have more CFM than the planer.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Bob Marino
10-25-2005, 5:19 PM
That's what I told to the technical support of DeWalt.

I'll copy you my conversation with them.

Mario,

I can understand not using the planer with a vac, because it will fill up very, very quickly. However, I am baffled by Dewalt recommending not using a dust collector.

Bob

Andy Hoyt
10-25-2005, 5:23 PM
Mario,

I can understand not using the planer with a vac, because it will fill up very, very quickly. However, I am baffled by Dewalt recommending not using a dust collector.

Bob

Could it be that the bozo didn't know the difference?

Don Baer
10-25-2005, 6:06 PM
Could it be that the bozo didn't know the difference?

That would be my guess...;)

Randy Davidson
10-25-2005, 6:15 PM
I have a Delta 50-850 hooked to my Dewalt 735 and have absolutely no problems. Like the previous poster I have tried with and without and there is no difference.

Mario Brissette
10-25-2005, 6:25 PM
Could it be that the bozo didn't know the difference?

Maybe. And maybe I should ask to the "bozo" if he knows what is a planer ! :D

Don Baer
10-25-2005, 6:27 PM
Maybe. And maybe I should ask to the "bozo" if he knows what is a planer ! :D


Or what a dust collector is....:D

Mario Brissette
10-25-2005, 6:31 PM
Or what a dust collector is....:D

I think I'll answer this:



Hi technical support. For you information, my dust collector is not like the following model
http://brendoman.com/images/broom_sm.JPG

:D :D :D

Bob Tate
10-25-2005, 6:45 PM
The trash can I used to use with that cloth thing filled up very, very quickly also. I wonder if they recommend against the trash can too!

Larry Crim
10-27-2005, 8:58 AM
I have mine hooked directly to a HF DC and have also used a 5hp shop vac, I did not even hesitate to use the DC and have only had one problem that I do not think was related, The screws that mount the fan housing came loose and had to be replaced. A friend also had the same problem and he does not use a DC so all you 735 owners may want to check the mounting screws just to be safe. I didn't notice it till I went to change the blades once and saw one missing when I took it off I found there was only one screw remaining and it was loose.
Larry

Greg Griswold
10-27-2005, 10:05 AM
I have used mine with my DC since I got the DW735 - no problems.

Greg

Tom Hintz
10-27-2005, 3:24 PM
I have to believe that the tech person was thinking shop vac for some reason. I would agree that hooking the DW735 (or any planer) to a shop vac is probably not a good idea because of the volume of debris generated. However, a dust collector is the perfect thing for it, and they do supply the 4" connector with the planer!

Loren McDaniel
10-24-2006, 11:39 AM
From Page 8 of Instruction Manual

"Fan-Assisted Chip Ejection System
Your planer is equipped with a fan-assisted chip ejection system to
aid in exhausting chips from the unit. The fan-assisted chip ejection
system will work in conjunction with independent dust collection
systems.
NOTE: It is not recommended that a shop vac be connected to the
DW735. The capacity of most vacs does not support the volume of
chips ejected during planing. The vacuum hose may clog stopping
the flow of chips."

David Giles
10-24-2006, 2:29 PM
My DW735 connects to a Jet dust collector with a trashcan preseparator. The planer has lots of oomph and occasionally blows off the flexible hose. And the DC must be started first or the trash can lid will be dislodged. Other than that, no problems. Surely the instructions are referring to a shopvac setup.

Brent Harral
10-24-2006, 2:48 PM
Like everyone else, I've used mine with a 2hp onieda and it's done fine. HOWEVER, just recently I've noticed there are lots of dust/chips inside of the main housing and I can see dust somehow getting out of the back port when running it. To maybe find the probelm, I used tape around my hose and port to "seal" everything in the back, but it's still getting by - this is outside of the planer. Next I popped the top and did some heavy planning while off. I could still see small chips getting out where the port/hood connects to the blower section. Got me! No cracks in the plastic and it looks like it's as well sealed/connected as day one. If anyone has the same problem or would know what else to look for I'm all ears!

Mark Rios
10-24-2006, 3:12 PM
Well, I was surprised to see this one get resurrected from a year ago but since it's come up....

I have used my 12 gallon shopvac (when I had a shop :( ) for my 735 and have no trouble whatsoever, other than dumping it out. I do keep a close eye on chip level in the canister but no trouble at all.

Now since I do my planing outside I just use the special Dewalt Super-Duper chipper shooter. My dogs think it's snowing in Modesto in the summer.:D

Fred Voorhees
10-24-2006, 5:30 PM
Mario, I have had the DeWalt planer hooked up to my Onieda and have never had any problems. Below is a pic of it from my photo essay of my bench upgrade where I built the planer right into my bench so that the entire bench acts like an in-feed and out-feed table - which, by the way, the planer needs because that is the one thing absolutely terrible about this planer, that's the sniping if you don't have additional tables at each end. The accessorie tables are extra cost. I didn't buy them due my planning on this bench upgrade even before purchasing the unit. Other than the table deal, the planer is one great machine.

You can see the complete bench upgrade project here:
http://leatheruppers.blogspot.com/2006/01/my-workbench-upgrade.html

Dan Montgomery
10-24-2006, 6:11 PM
Mario

I have mine successfully hooked up to a dust collector and it is almost perfect with no dust or chips getting into the air. The motor on the planer is strong, so you can't just hook into a shop vac or anything else that will not accomidate the release of the air from the blower. I, too, did not care for the trash can hood that you can get from Dewalt. I am hooked up to a JDS Dust Force with canister top and it is on a about a 25' run of plastic hose. I run the dust force in a normal manner and I have other machines on the Dust Force with blast gates. I figure that between the long run and the large surface area of the canister, there is enough balance to equalize everything. Either way, it works great. A representative from Dewalt told me at a show that it is a bit of trial and error, saying he has talked to guys who have connected into a dust collector and not turned the collector on, but used the planer blower to push the chips into the collector unassisted. I can't speak for that, but my method works great.
Hope that helps.

glenn bradley
10-24-2006, 7:29 PM
A recent review other than the one quoted by Don also hooked up to a DC and claimed the 735 to be surprisingly dust free.

Chuck Hanger
10-24-2006, 7:53 PM
for about 2.5 years. Love the planner. Did not have it hooked to a DC until about 2 months ago. I do not notice any dust or chips in the shop with it hooked to the DC. Before I hooked up the DC I ran a DC hose out under the 6' roll up door and raked them up out of the yard rather than have the entire shop full of chips. Have not had a problem with the hose blowing off of the connection. Something to watch out for I guess as I am using the compression fitting.
Chuck

Mike Sommer
10-26-2006, 9:38 AM
My 735 is always hooked up to the DC, but often times I don't turn it on, because the blower is enough to force the chips into the bag by itself.