Your Opinions re Variable Speed in a ROS

[Howard Rosenberg]

My 5" Makita VS ROS just died. It slowed right down to a crawl and then smoke started coming out.

To replace it, the single-speed Makita ROS is $89. Their twin-handle VS ROS is $139 (Canadian dollars, I might add).

My question is who here has a VS ROS and how useful is the VS capability?

In the 18 years I owned it, I never changed the speed from the top setting. But I only used it on wood and MDF. I keep thinking the VS might come in handy on other types of materials. But the biggest issue that's got my head turned is that the specs suggest the VS unit has significantly less vibration than their single-speed unit.

FWIW, I'm satisfied with Makita so I'm not looking at other brands.

I'd appreciate your thoughts re VS vs single-speed in a ROS.

Thanks.

Howard

[Doug Hepler]

Howard

I have a Bosch variable speed ROS. I rarely change the speed. But I should add that I do not use it much. I tend to remove stock with hand planes and when I sand I usually do it by hand. Get the single speed. There will be less to go wrong. On the other hand, if you amortize the $50 difference over the next 18 years (or so) why not go for the VS?

Doug

[johnny means]

I find VS useful for operations where I need to sneak up on line or when over sanding is highly likely. Things like critical scribes or stripping veneered plywood. Of course, hand sanding would also work for these situations.

[Bruce Page]

I could easily live without it. My sanders stay at full speed.

[John K Jordan]

I have three VS ROSs. The two I use the most are both pneumatic: a little 3" palm sander and an even smaller Grex pistol type I use with 2" and 1" disks. I use these mostly on woodturnings. I make good use of the variable speed since it allows me to sand very gently. I most often sand at nearly the slowest they will go, actually sort of a lazy man's hand sanding. However, when sanding flat wood with the 5" electric sander I nearly always use it wide open. I think I'd be happy with a single speed sander there.

JKJ

[Bill Dufour]

For the price difference I would buy a SCR variable speed control and use that. I have one PC 303 which is vs. I use it one notch below top speed since it howls a little less but still sands fast enough.
Bill

[Jim Finn]

I have three 5" random orbital sanders. Two of them have variable speed and I use those two the most. I find that when sanding small parts, a slower speed works better for me. Also , when I am sanding the sealing coat of shellac, if I run the sander at full speed it loads up the sand paper very quickly so I slow it down and it reduces the loading of shellac on my 180 grit paper a lot.

[Robert Parent]

I love variable speed and no longer buy tools that don't have it built in. Someone mentioned using an add-on control. Keep in mind if the tool has a soft start circuit those speed control boxes will not work with them.

Robert

[Christopher Hedges]

I have found VS very useful for sanding finishes and thin veneers.

[glenn bradley]

Sounds like you've never needed it so for you I would say it is not necessary. There is a speed/grit/material match that will allow smoother operation. I pretty much make this adjustment on the fly and without even thinking about it so for me, VS is a must. You can always lay into the sander and muscle it but, I'm from the camp that let's the sanders weight do the work. Minimal hand fatigue and less effort. Either method works but, I have never worn out a pad. A lot of a tool's feature value will depend on that feature's value to you. If you don't need it, it is of little value.

[Bill Dindner]

In every sander I own aside from My Festool Rotex I've always left it on the highest setting. Just my experience, all my sanders have variable speed, but never needed it.

[Jim Tobias]

When sanding veneered edges or when sanding final grits and also sanding over rounded edges it is much easier to get a consistent edge with a slower speed. Just my $.02

Jim

[Prashun Patel]

"There is a speed/grit/material match that will allow smoother operation. I pretty much make this adjustment on the fly and without even thinking about it so for me, VS is a must."

+1 to Glen's comments. I think many people never waiver from the highest speed setting. If your standard practice is to sand between 100 and 220 grit, flat surfaces, then I'd say VS is less of a necessity.

However, if you polish or rub out (say, using Abralon pads), or use lower grits (36-80), or sand contours with a softer pad, or refine edges, then slower speeds can work more efficiently, last longer, and offer more control. This is not true in all cases with all woods and all media; like Glen, I make this choice dynamically.

[Marc Burt]

I have a fleet of Festool sanders all of which (I believe) have variable speed. I have never used it on any ROS. I have used it one time on the little Delta sander. I may be in the minority but it's just not a feature I care about and wouldn't pay extra for. I keep them on high btw.

[Mike Henderson]

I have found VS very useful for sanding finishes and thin veneers.

I use a slower sanding speed in the same circumstances.

Mike

[Wade Lippman]

you should have done a survey.
I have never used VS on sanders. If I need the sander to be gentler, I used a finer paper.

Years ago I bought a VS multimaster. The instructions said to use the highest speed for everything. Go figure.

[Howard Rosenberg]

Thank you for your replies and help. Makita VS it is! Picked it up yesterday.

Howard

[Osvaldo Cristo]

Good decision!

I recently decided to change most of my hand electrical tools, most of them 25 to 15 years old, none of them had variable speed. One of the reasons was I figured out sometimes variable speed can offer a better tool control.

I decided maintain without upgrade just my electric planner and the sanders (one belt and one oscillating flat). I couldn't see any good for variable speed for those tools. My oscillating sander broke some days ago when sanding a door preparing for a new painting. I had to purchase a new sander and I went to a VS oscillating sander (Bosch GSS 23 AE) as my previous one was from Bosch also and offered good service for more than 25 years.

For my surprise I discovered variable speed is great also for oscillating speed offering better control for different grit/material combo. Unfortunately there isn't a simple rule to setup the "correct" speed but you can "feel" the best setup with some try out.

Enjoy your new tool!

[Bill Jobe]

At just $30 I'm quite happy with my Milwaukee, but it's the first orbital I've owned. I especially appreciate its slow startup.