Rehab of a saw

[steven c newman]

Had a saw come home with me..
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Missing a back, well beat up...had a backsaw that needed a new handle
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They may look like bolts, but they are rivets. Handle was loose..
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Maybe? Had to cut the "old" handle off, and cut the rivets. A hole or two needed adjusted, rivets were skinnier, too...
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Might be a little bit better, now?
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There was one nice thing about the replacement handle..
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It at least had a medallion. Working on a refinish for the wood, waiting on a couple holes to get fixed....someone had drilled for a loop to hang the saw from.
One done....have a few more to do...

[bridger berdel]

i think i might have been tempted to transplant the back onto the new (older) plate, leaving the handle where it was. I don't know the condition of that plate, though.

[steven c newman]

Plate was beyond hope.....

[lowell holmes]

File the tooth line off and re-tooth. I've done it successfully. I always enjoy doing it because I feel like I accomplished something.
I have re-toothed two saws. You can draw tooth templates with a cad program or get one on line.
If you need one, send me an email and I will will send it to you.


I did that to a Disston D-8 that is now a good saw. Otherwise, clean the handle up and save for another project.

[steven c newman]

The plate was beyond a file job, even. Had more "kinks" that a copy of Hustler Magazine. Sharp little bends each way. Toe end was missing a chunk. Wasn't worth the effort to fix the plate. Let alone find a back for it.

IF someone else want to try to fix it up, let me know. By the time you'd add a back, and re-tooth it..there would only be 2" under the spine.

[steven c newman]

Another "saw" was cleaned up tonight...
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Some of the pointy end is missing, and the teeth need sharpened.
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Found the remains of a logo...." Woodrough & McParlin"? Ring a bell?

[steven c newman]

Once my bench top is clear again....
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I have these two to rehab. There is a nib involved here, afterall....maybe a No.7. I think I can find enough parts to replace a few missing ones...
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There are two Butcher's saws on the bottom. Most of this stack will be just for parts. Bolts and some of the handles. Most of the plates are too well bent to save.....we'll see.

[steven c newman]

Ok, have torn all but the riveted handled ones, and the Butcher saw down. Saved the good handles, tossed the bent plates. A Stanley "Shark Tooth" tool box saw is on the bottom. Left it alone.

Bolts have been removed, and are soaking in a bowl of full strength Simple Green. Have two straight saw plates, one a ship's saw, the other that BIG plate with a nib. I think I found the right handles for both. Rest of the handle will go to "Spares" or auction. One of the medallions is an Atkins, AAA, sunken. Will see what the rest of the medallions turn out to be. Stay tuned...

[steven c newman]

Ok, gave the parts a good soak..
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And let the Simple Green work for a while
Drain it off..
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Hmmm...there was 6 medallions in there..
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BIG one is a Disston, there is an Atkins and most of the rest are WS.
One plate, one handle
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Choosen because the holes were close.....NOT.
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Last I looked, this was from a D-16? Not a..
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Keystone Pacemaker....dug through the pile of handles until I found one close
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WAS a 7 ppi...had been resharpened as an 8ppi ( two stamps)

Ok, brought the "other" good saw down the steps...
By the time I had found the "proper" handle and the proper bolts, and cleaned the plate up...
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This is a 7ppi
Out of picture space...stay tuned, it gets even better...

[steven c newman]

There was two etches on the plate. One about being the Property of a Railway
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They other is from Disston, say this is a No 7

Down on the end..
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is the Nib.

So, now I have those two good saws rehabbed from the Shindig. A Keystone Pacemaker that has been sharpened a few times, and a Disston No.7 that belonged to a railway company.

I think it is time to call it a day.

[steven c newman]

Research says the RR was the Woodrough & McParlin RW Co. from up Vermont way.......about 1890s saw?

Found out I have two of those handles for a Disston D-16...one with carving, and one without.....Have a medallione for both of them. Have a few handles without plates, pictures after awhile.....some are HUGE 5 bolt ones ( D-23?) and one is a rather tiny, three bolt handle..I can only get three fingers in the grip..barely. May do a layout and see if anyone knows what handles they are...maybe after Lunch?

Not too hateful of a haul.....:rolleyes:

[steven c newman]

Ok, seems I had deleted one of the pictures, but here we go, anyway..
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In fact, I have another just like the top one....
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Not too sure about these two ( more on the wee one in a bit)
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The "Bigs" and..
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As for the wee handle.
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I can only get three finger in the grip, barely
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Hmmm, Brass, or steel bolts?
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There wasn't any spot for a medallion.

What plates are left? All are bent, cracked and pitted....not much worth trying to "save"

These "extras" may need to go to a "Good Home"...someday.

[steven c newman]

Ok, dug through the "collection of saw plates.....found the one that fit the tiny handle.....toe had a bad bend I didn't feel like fixing, was also missing a chunk right at the toe....simple matter, I cut just behind the bad spot, and reground a profile on the end.
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This pictures were taken without the tripod....if you want some tripod work..ask.
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Right about here, there is a faint etch, something about "Cast Steel" and Warranted....
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I chose the steel bolts, because they seemed to fit better..
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I was able to "clock" the bolts, though..
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Tooth line is 16" long, saw is a 10 ppi. Will need to be sharpened.

Will send this out to the fellow I know, and at $14......I will have a nicely sharpened saw.
Still trying the read the etch a little better, may have to "Gun Blue" it to bring it out better.

Had a small chip missing from the top horn, sander to blend things in. Oil finish.

Not too hateful?

[steven c newman]

Tooth count stamp looks a lot like a Disston one. Will wait and see what the etch says, when I can bring it out.

[steven c newman]

Ok, Gun Blue Paste has been used on the etch...twice. In-between the Cast Steel and a Warranted there looks to be a bearded figure, or a coat of arms...Any clues out there?

Will be taking this little saw to the local Sharpening guy.....$0.60 / inch. Min. $14 .

While re-arranging a couple saws in the till....came upon a Craftsman Special Saw.....says so right in the etch. Skew back, 8ppi. Might be a "keeper" ?

[steven c newman]

Near as my research can find out....the little saw MIGHT have been a Disston No. 090 and etched for a hardware store brand...

[lowell holmes]

I don't know why I would do it, but if you were making panel saw out of a handsaw, you could file a nib in it just to be doing it. hmmm

[Andrew Pitonyak]

never used simple green..... should I buy some? Your results are very good. How does it compare to say a citrus cleaner? (and no, I don't have a good handle on what that is either, but I do have some).

[steven c newman]

Simple Green seems to work nicely enough. It is also a de-greaser.

[Pat Barry]

There is a small amount of citric acid (< 1%) in simple green... not very strong in this manner. Not sure if the other ingredients are capable of attacking rust stains.

[steven c newman]

Others have been using Simple Green and a 3M purple Scratch pad to clean rusty saw plates. Seens to work well enough, too.

[steven c newman]

This saw was already a panel saw, Disston 090. As for a nib
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I'll leave that to the Disston No 7 handsaws......

[Rick Malakoff]

Hi Steven,
Thanks for the Simple Green and the razor tip. As for the nib was Disston the only saw maker who made them with it?
Rick

[steven c newman]

About everyone was doing nibs, for a while.....when Disston stopped "nibbing" so did everyone else....