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Mike Allen1010
06-13-2017, 6:05 PM
Somehow I can’t get the pictures to rotate into the correct orientation on Photobucket, but you’ll get the idea.

Here’s the profile of the cornice molding drawn on the end grain. I use a shop made rabbit plane to create the initial rabbit farthest from the reference edge.

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Next I use a plow plane to create the rabbit that defines the middle of the bottom concave curve.

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Using the # 6 and a # 12 hollow and round and the finished molding. Probably more time spent sharpening then planing.


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Mike Allen1010
06-13-2017, 6:08 PM
I could’ve gotten the entire molding profile out of a single 6/4 piece of stock but screwed up the layout so had to make the top portion separately and glue the 2 pieces together:

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Here’s the finished molding installed under the top of the bookcase.


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Someone asked for a couple more pictures of laying out and chopping the recesses to hold the mutins so here’s a couple pictures. I tried to work out the recesses with geometry, but had more luck simply laying the mutins on top of the door and cutting the recesses to match:


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Mike Allen1010
06-13-2017, 6:11 PM
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I made 3 hidden drawers that fit on the underside of the bookcase top hidden behind the cornice molding. White oak, cherry and lace wood.


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Mike Allen1010
06-13-2017, 6:14 PM
I used a complex molding plane to create an OG molding transitioning the bookshelf to tabletop. IMHO, this kind of complete molding plane is a great way to get started with shooting your own molding. A little easier than hollows and rounds.

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Used a beading tool to scrape a couple beads on the top edge of the molding – probably too much, but it’s a superfund tool to use. Somehow the end grain of the molding didn’t look right and a full width, mitered molding for the front also look out of place so I added ¼ inch thick facer to cover the end grain.

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I decided to try and “Egg and Dart” carved molding for the top of the bookcase in hopes of “lightning” the visual weight of the top. “Carving Architectural Detail in Wood” by Frederick Wilber is a great reference with lots of different molding designs.

I spent way too much time trying to photocopy/resize a picture to use as a template and ended up just laying out the broad dimensions of the components with a circle template and ruler and freehand drawing in the curves for the “basket” that surrounds the “egg”.

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Outlined with #’s 6 and 7 gouges and used a bench chisel to remove the chip.



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Shaping the sloping top of the “dart” with a ¼” flat chisel.

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Using a small, # 3 gouge to create the “egg”. Sorry for the blurry picture.


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Mike Allen1010
06-13-2017, 6:17 PM
I started on the side so my mistakes would be less visible not realizing carving in the end grain is a lot harder than carving the long grain, front edge.

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In total it took me about 15 hours to carved the molding. I definitely gotten faster towards the end - incising/carving the gross features went fairly quickly, but I spend an inordinate amount of time with a riffler and Ex-acto knife trying to clean up margins and remaining fragments. I’m sure if I were better Carver that last step wouldn’t be necessary.
I think it turned out okay.


Here’s a couple pictures with the doors sitting in the case


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I’m glad the tedious carving is behind me and next will be making drawers for the bottom row of the pigeonhole unit. These will have rounded faces to match the profile of the vertical dividers.

Should I go with small brass knobs for the doors/drawers or try and turn them out of Holly to match the stringing? I very much appreciate recommendations!

All the best, Mike

Archie England
06-13-2017, 6:28 PM
WOW!!!!! Outstanding!!!! That's inspiring.

Jim Koepke
06-13-2017, 8:42 PM
Very nice indeed Mike.

One of my favorites for small knobs is to turn an acorn:

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This one, made of rosewood, is on one of our kitchen cabinets. They can be made of just about any wood that will turn on a lathe.

jtk

John Kananis
06-13-2017, 10:31 PM
I love it - really looking good and thanks for documenting so far.

Bill McNiel
06-13-2017, 10:47 PM
Mike- that is truly inspiring work. Many thanks for sharing.

Leo Graywacz
06-13-2017, 11:20 PM
What was the difference in carving the end grain compared to the edge grain. Harder, easier?

Looks like it came out great. Not sure if I could do it in 15 hours.

Patrick McCarthy
06-13-2017, 11:47 PM
Absolutely awesome, sir!

Christopher Charles
06-14-2017, 1:40 AM
Looking really fantastic Mike. The carving does lighten the top and to me it looks like it came out great.

On the knobs, I don't think I've ever seen any turned in holly. Curious to see what you decide!

Jim Koepke
06-14-2017, 1:45 AM
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I can see the drawers in place, what is holding them against the top?

jtk

Chet R Parks
06-14-2017, 10:34 AM
Mike,
I'd like to know the difference of end vs edge grain carving also. As far as the build goes a LOT of little details going on there with the planning, layout, cutting, fitting, carving etc. Wow great job and control of work flow.
Chet

Derek Cohen
06-14-2017, 12:45 PM
Mike, your work is simply outstanding. I'm just blown away. The detail is exhausting to look at. How long did it actually take you to do?! I'd like a bit more description about the carving. How stable/strong is it - it looks to include a lot of fragile cross grain.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Jerry Olexa
06-14-2017, 2:10 PM
EXCELLENT Work mike!!!! Thank you....

Brian Holcombe
06-15-2017, 7:56 AM
Wow Mike, really wonderful work. Following along with great interest!

Kees Heiden
06-15-2017, 8:14 AM
Getting better and better! And you work feverishly fast!

Jeff Ranck
06-16-2017, 9:39 AM
Wow! this is amazing. I wish I had just a fraction of your talent!

Jeff.

Mike Allen1010
06-18-2017, 6:42 PM
Thanks Jim I love your acorn knob


Very nice indeed Mike.

One of my favorites for small knobs is to turn an acorn:

362061

This one, made of rosewood, is on one of our kitchen cabinets. They can be made of just about any wood that will turn on a lathe.

jtk

Mike Allen1010
06-18-2017, 9:22 PM
Leo carving the end grain was more of a challenge as all carving elements were short grain- fragile and pron to crushing v. Cutting.

The front edge had some long grain rising the elements together. Some of the details were not practical in this small scale and should have been left out. The pattern was intended for larger, architectural scale moulding.

Superglue was key tool for repairs on both edges. Even with the repairs, there are more than a few places where the basket was lost. If I were doing it again I would make the darts a simple , single plane shape.

Cheers, Mike



What was the difference in carving the end grain compared to the edge grain. Harder, easier?



Looks like it came out great. Not sure if I could do it in 15 hours.

Mike Allen1010
06-18-2017, 9:25 PM
Wow! this is amazing. I wish I had just a fraction of your talent!

Jeff.

Nice. Thanks all for your very kind comments! Jeff you could totally do this. It's really just sharp tools and plugging away.

Leo Graywacz
06-18-2017, 10:03 PM
What about carving them out of a separate pc of edge grain and inlaying them. I figured the end grain would be a lot tougher to carve. Even with scary sharp, end grain resists.