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Mike Allen1010
05-30-2017, 9:33 PM
This is the 3rd post of this build, you can get the first part of the build on a previous post.


I repaired the horizontal divider above the central door to get a straight, tight reveal. Probably way more time/effort than it's worth, but now I'm glad I did it.

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New with the casework done next step is to build the 3 doors for the upper bookshelf. I try to avoid measuring whatever possible and expandable dividers like this work well for me to get interior measurements.

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I added a 3/16 inch wide bead on the inside surface of the doorframes with the molding plane. Sorry no pictures, my wife had the camera.


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Sawing/pairing the beading from rail/style's for joinery. Getting adjoining faces square is important because errors will be revealed in the joinery.

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I typically prefer mortise and tenon joints, especially for doors like this without a central panel to add rigidity. However, I totally blew measurements and had to go with dowels to make the precut doorframe pieces fit.


I use a guide block to pair the miter for the beading.

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After assembly, a final planing gets rail/styles flat. I like using a card scraper to smooth show surfaces of right up to adjoining rail/style joints.

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Mike Allen1010
05-30-2017, 9:36 PM
Doors fit/inside the casework so first step is to establish angle of vertical dividers relative to shelf reference. Should be 90, but sometimes isn't quite there.

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I added a bead to the vertical door members to set them apart from the vertical members of the casework and added a Holly inlay.FWIW, I like the look of line/stringing, which is common in the federal style.I have a hand tool inlay stringing cutter from Lee Valley that works great. In this case because I had 3 doors, I used the Dremel with a adjustable fence to create the recess for the stringing. Biggest challenge is making stringing that matches the width of the groove. I recommend making a test groove in scrap and then scraping your stringing to ensure it fits. For me, my most visible mistakes are when the stringing is not uniform width and doesn't fill the groove completely.

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I use the same beading cutter on the plow plane to create a profile for the mutins that will support the glass in the doorframes. When edge planing narrow stock I like to use a simple bench fixture I got from one of Jim Tolpin's books to hold the work piece perpendicular to the bench surface.

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Mike Allen1010
05-30-2017, 9:38 PM
MItering the edge of the mutins. A little chisel work creates a recess in the beading on the interior corner of the doors.

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Getting the corner -to- corner pieces in place was pretty straightforward, the mutins that join the midpoint of the door members was more of a handful. I'm sure there's some kind of math that calculates the correct angles needed. I just sort of eyeballed it. I suck at math.

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Next step will be sticking the cornice molding and may be making some inlay fans for 3 drawer fronts on the apron.

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Thanks for looking.


All the best, Mike

Christopher Charles
05-31-2017, 1:32 AM
Mike,

I'll say that you seem to be taking it up a notch with each project!

Best,
Chris

Phil Mueller
05-31-2017, 8:58 AM
Impressive, Mike. You've really notched up the skills with the stringing and inlay (to come!). The mullion work just stresses my brain looking at it. Thanks for the thread.

If you don't mind me sharing a theory; when I see a few saws from you for sale, I know there is another project on the horizon :D

Derek Cohen
05-31-2017, 9:32 AM
Mike, you're not making it easy for the rest of us to keep up with you.

That is impressive work. I love the way you handled the muntins.

Regards from Perth

Derek

David Eisenhauer
05-31-2017, 8:46 PM
Muntins are killer Mike. How do the individual muntin pieces tie in to the rails and stiles? I can see a "receiver" slot/hole, but what else?

John Kananis
06-02-2017, 2:01 PM
Hey Mike, your work continues to impress me - muntins are awesome!

Mike Allen1010
06-05-2017, 8:43 PM
If you don't mind me sharing a theory; when I see a few saws from you for sale, I know there is another project on the horizon :D


Phil, your theory is right on target. In between projects I like to restore/sharpen saws for a couple reasons; it's a nice break from large, time-consuming woodworking projects and for me, saw sharpening is kind of a fungible skill – it's easy to lose the feel if you haven't done it in a while.


I really love vintage saws, not just because they're what enabled me to realize woodworking didn't require a shop full of machines (hand tools are a lot more fun for me), but also because of the connection vintage saws provide to the preindustrial woodworker's who owned them:


The kind of smooth patina on the tote that only comes from 50 + years of use, what the type of woodworker likely used a particular model/type of saw (shipbuilder, finish carpenter, cabinetmaker, etc.). The way you can tell how many generations used a saw on a daily basis to make a living, based on how much of the plate has been filed away through repeated sharpening's. A straight, well-maintained tooth line, untarnished plate and a well-formed owners mark indicate a skilled craftsmen who intrinsically understood the value of keeping his tools in good working order. Conversely a haphazard tooth line, questionable geometry and a pitted saw plate might be a homeowner/farmer just trying to saw some wood, not really knowing how to properly sharpen, but still willing to give it a try.


I have way more hand saws than anyone needs and I'm trying to thin the herd in my old age, so I occasionally post a couple in the classifieds. The proceeds go to a good cause and I get a lot of satisfaction from passing along a well tuned tool that helps someone else realize woodworking doesn't have to require a shop full of machines – not that there's anything wrong with that!:)


Cheers, Mike

Mike Allen1010
06-05-2017, 8:58 PM
Muntins are killer Mike. How do the individual muntin pieces tie in to the rails and stiles? I can see a "receiver" slot/hole, but what else?

Hey Dave,

The joints are pretty much what you see; the interior molding on the rails and Stiles is pared away to create a small "slot" that receives the mitered ends of the muntins. Using a mitered shooting board to sneak up on the perfect length of the mutins allows you to achieve a tight friction fit.


Even though the height of the mutin/frame joint is only 3/8", just a little bit of glue is enough to hold everything securely in place (at least I hope so!). The back of the doors of rabbitted for a pane of glass that fits flush up against the backside of the mutins. I'll use some window putty stuff to keep everything from rattling around. I'll try and post some pictures that hopefully make sense.


Cheers, Mike