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Stephen Tashiro
05-23-2017, 8:30 PM
Is it possible to buy quarter turn water shut-off valves (for bathroom fixtures) that have long handles? The only one's I see for sale locally have very short handles, which makes them hard to turn. For example: http://www.homedepot.com/p/BrassCraft-1-2-in-Nominal-Compression-Inlet-x-3-8-in-O-D-Compression-Outlet-1-4-Turn-Angle-Valve-G2CR19X-C1/202047059

I can find quarter turn valves with long handles that are designed for straight runs of pipe, but haven't found any that replace the bathroom shut-off type.

This type of valve has an nice handle, but it's designed for hoses to a washing machine. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BQNDHA/ref=asc_df_B000BQNDHA4997305/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B000BQNDHA&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167127504138&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3827493253691225763&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030610&hvtargid=pla-465686808232

John K Jordan
05-23-2017, 9:01 PM
Would a standard ball valve work? I bought some good quality 1/4 turn valves at Home Depot to control my air compressor lines, as on the right of this picture:
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I don't recall the typical fixture plumbing. If a ball valve wouldn't work, I'd consider replacing a little bitty handle with a one I made to suit me. Typically handles come off with a screw and expose a shaft.

JKJ



Is it possible to buy quarter turn water shut-off valves (for bathroom fixtures) that have long handles? The only one's I see for sale locally have very short handles, which makes them hard to turn. For example: http://www.homedepot.com/p/BrassCraft-1-2-in-Nominal-Compression-Inlet-x-3-8-in-O-D-Compression-Outlet-1-4-Turn-Angle-Valve-G2CR19X-C1/202047059

I can find quarter turn valves with long handles that are designed for straight runs of pipe, but haven't found any that replace the bathroom shut-off type.

This type of valve has an nice handle, but it's designed for hoses to a washing machine. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BQNDHA/ref=asc_df_B000BQNDHA4997305/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B000BQNDHA&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167127504138&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3827493253691225763&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030610&hvtargid=pla-465686808232

Lee DeRaud
05-23-2017, 9:24 PM
You mean these? http://www.homedepot.com/p/BrassCraft-1-2-in-Nominal-Compression-Inlet-x-3-8-in-O-D-Compression-Outlet-1-4-Turn-Angle-Valve-G2CR19X-C1/202047059
They have them in several inlet types/sizes...looks like all the outlets are 3/8" compression.
EDIT: never mind that's the same one you posted...but I've never had any problem turning one, unlike the 'standard' style.
2nd EDIT: just pulled one out of my spares bin, looks like it might be dodgy to fit a different handle to it. But have you considered just drilling/chiseling a 'socket' that fits the handle in a fist-sized chunk of hardwood and use it as a wrench? It's not like you have to use them every day...

George Bokros
05-23-2017, 9:56 PM
I don't like those either, how about these

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Keeney-Chrome-Quarter-Turn-Angle-Valve/3191049

Stephen Tashiro
05-23-2017, 10:01 PM
I don't like those either, how about these

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Keeney-Chrome-Quarter-Turn-Angle-Valve/3191049


Thank you. I'll look for those.

The reviews on the Lowes site are confusing. One review claims the handle is plastic. Another review complains about the valve pulling off a pex connector. At least it looks like the handle can be replaced.

Mel Fulks
05-23-2017, 11:17 PM
Few years back an octopus turned one and let all the water out of his tank. He should be considered extremely armed and kinda dangerous.

Michael Dye
05-24-2017, 6:56 AM
Be careful. Most of these valves have plastic internals. With a longer handle comes the risk of breaking the shaft when operating the valve.

John K Jordan
05-24-2017, 8:28 AM
The type I mentioned comes in a variety of configurations, versions for soldering, threaded, Sharkbite, compression fittings, etc. spand come in different sizes. Here is one: https://www.directmaterial.com/stainless-steel-316-ball-valve-full-port-body-1000-psi-wog.html?gclid=CJDStKfBiNQCFUQ9gQodOo4I3Q Most have brass bodies.

The balls are stainless steel and will probably work forever with minimal effort. I have one outside I have to dig the dirt away to turn. It's been working since 1988. I have another on a livestock waterer that uses adapters to work with pvc pipe.

You want something easy to turn? Look at this type.

I do my own installations but if in doubt any plumber could install one in any installation, adapting as needed.

JKJ


Would a standard ball valve work? I bought some good quality 1/4 turn valves at Home Depot ...

glenn bradley
05-24-2017, 8:58 AM
Or just keep a short piece of PVC pipe handy for a cheater bar?