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Ian Guy
05-18-2017, 2:51 PM
I am planning to go to Handworks this weekend. Does anyone who has been in the past recall whether or not the vendors accept credit cards or just cash?

Also, does anyone have any insight on the parking situation? For example, is it going to be a hike from the parking areas to the event locations? I do not mind a walk, but just want to know if I should plan on not needing to go back to my car until i leave at the end of the day.

If anyone has any tips or information that is helpful then I (and others) would appreciate it.

thanks,
Ian

Malcolm Schweizer
05-18-2017, 3:07 PM
I will be there. I do not have answers for you, but I created a Facebook page called "going to Handworks 2017" to ask questions and ride share. It is NOT a sponsored or official page. I just saw a lot of folks asking questions so I created a page. Not many folks have joined.

I flew Lee to Kansas City and borrowed my brotjer's truck. I am driving to Des Moines tonight and then to Cedar Rapids in the morning. See ya there.

Ian Guy
05-18-2017, 3:13 PM
Malcolm,
thanks, I will try to take a look at your Facebook page. Safe travels.

-Ian

allen long
05-19-2017, 1:21 AM
Malcolm, I don't have facebook, but I hope we can meet somehow

Malcolm Schweizer
05-19-2017, 7:45 AM
Malcolm, I don't have facebook, but I hope we can meet somehow

Would love to. I am in an orange jacket and will have a canvas backpack to haul my loot in. I look like a much more muscular version of Brad Pitt. (That last part may not be true)

Malcolm Schweizer
05-19-2017, 7:32 PM
Wow. I am blown away by this event. There is a guy that made an exact replica of the H.O. Studley tool chest- right down to the tools. Veritas has their large plow, and it is a glorious piece of art. They are offering a free custom made box if you buy (pre order) at the show. Of course I did!!! I'm going to download pics Sunday night when I get home. It's so much awesome that my head is spinning right now.

Kurt Cady
05-19-2017, 9:31 PM
Is it a large plow plane, similar to the small plow? Or is what you are calling the large plow the combination plane I am seeing on Instagram

Malcolm Schweizer
05-19-2017, 9:50 PM
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Most of my photos were taken with the camera and I can't download them until I get home. Here are some teasers- the Veritas large plow and the custom fit case, and a prototype saw by Blue Spruce that he was going to have ready for production this summer, but it may or may not due to patent concerns. It does not flex, and can easily be rotated without releasing tension. The handle... wow... it was so perfect in the hand.

I met all the hand tool greats and have truly been inspired to continue to pursue the craft. A-MA-ZING event.

Frederick Skelly
05-20-2017, 7:49 AM
Sounds like a lot of fun Malcolm. Look forward to hearing more after you get back home!
Fred

Pete Magoon
05-20-2017, 4:55 PM
Are the blades for LV's small plow plane and the new large plow interchangeable?
Pete

Don Dorn
05-20-2017, 7:11 PM
Everyone feels differently. A friend and I went to Handworks a few years ago by driving from Western Iowa. Even though it was a short trip by traveling standards, we looked around for a couple of hours, bought a book or two, hit the LN and LV booth, talked a bit with Mike Siemsen. Even though we planned on both days, we felt we had seen everything we came to see and left for home that day. For me, it was like a Gun show, once you've seen the tables and looked at what you want, there is no point in hanging around

That said, I know others feel otherwise and good for them. As for myself, even though I'm happy we went, my one and only trip to Handworks was enough.

Michael Fross
05-20-2017, 9:12 PM
Are the blades for LV's small plow plane and the new large plow interchangeable?
Pete

Hello Pete,

I asked Robin Lee the same question and he told me that yes, all of the blades for the small plow plane will work in their new combination plane.

Michael

Simon MacGowen
05-20-2017, 10:41 PM
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Most of my photos were taken with the camera and I can't download them until I get home. Here are some teasers- the Veritas large plow and the custom fit case.

Any pricing information on the large plow? Are they offering the case as part of the deal?

Simon

Malcolm Schweizer
05-21-2017, 3:35 AM
Any pricing information on the large plow? Are they offering the case as part of the deal?

Simon

Price at the show was $399 for the large plow and one included blade. They threw in the wood storage box for free with it, but the box will be an option when it hits the market. Rob said they didn't have Pricing worked out yet for the box. Not shown well in my image, the top of the box slides and locks so you can safely carry it by the top. It has two boxes inside that fit all the blades, assuming you take them out of the protective wrappers they come in. Each blade is between $18 and just over $22 as I recall. I bought all the new beading blades (which takes you up to 1/2" width bead), one 1/4" cove, a four-bead blade, and- gosh- I can't remember now! I believe I also got a rabbeting blade. My total came to $518 for the plane and around six blades.

I confirmed with Rob and Vic that all blades for the small plow will fit the large. Also Rob said that Stanley blades fit as well, but regretfully I do not remember which model- I believe 55 but maybe the 45. I don't know the difference and don't own one but do know he said they would fit.

There was a micro-adjust on the fence, which I loved. There was clearly a lot of thought put into this thing.

Simon MacGowen
05-21-2017, 9:55 AM
Thank you for the detailed information. That is something I can easily afford now (I have saved a lot from not attending the show!), However, I will wait till some full reviews are out (Derek?) and hopefully they will bring it to the Woodworking Shows in the new season where I can try. I might build my own box if the price isn't right, especially I prefer a hardwood case.

I know Lie-Nielsen is still working on its large plow. The best thing to happen is if we have both available for a test run. But I will make my buy one way or the other by Christmas.

By the way, I don't like or trust the reviews seen in any woodworking magazines as they usually are lacking in analysis or depth (and perceived impartiality). 9 out of 10 times, the editor or reviewer will tell you to buy what they have reviewed. If I am going to spend $500 on a toy, I want an objective critique (nothing is perfect) before I open my wallet.

Simon

Jim Koepke
05-21-2017, 6:42 PM
I bought all the new beading blades (which takes you up to 1/2" width bead), one 1/4" cove, a four-bead blade, and- gosh- I can't remember now! I believe I also got a rabbeting blade. My total came to $518 for the plane and around six blades.

I confirmed with Rob and Vic that all blades for the small plow will fit the large. Also Rob said that Stanley blades fit as well, but regretfully I do not remember which model- I believe 55 but maybe the 45. I don't know the difference and don't own one but do know he said they would fit.

It is interesting to hear there are cove blades, multi-bead (or reeding) blades and other specialty blades. I look forward to seeing the full line of available blades.

The Stanley #45 and #55 blades are pretty much the same through the standard set. The movable skate on the #55 is also adjustable up and down allowing for blades that are not symmetrical from side to side.

The Stanley blades are a bit longer than the Veritas blades. My review of the Veritas Small Plow Plane includes using the Stanley blades in the VSPP:

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?251419-VSPP-Veritas-Small-Plow-Plane

If the adjuster on the large plow has more travel than the small plow it will allow them to be used with full adjustment abilities. This would be especially fun for those of us who would like to buy and modify old blades for special shapes and uses.

jtk

Brian Loran
05-23-2017, 3:48 PM
NICE!!! Will the LV large plow pre-order be available on their website any time soon?

Rob Lee
05-24-2017, 2:20 PM
NICE!!! Will the LV large plow pre-order be available on their website any time soon?

Hi Brian!

The pre-order special was conceived of as a show-only special. It will be several weeks before we have a web treatment ready (it's complex).

I could have my arm twisted into extending the offer if you want to contact me directly at rlee@leevalley.com . It would require a bit of a leap of faith on your part though, as there is nothing to show you directly....!

Cheers -

Rob

Mike Brady
05-24-2017, 2:40 PM
Kudos to Rob Lee and his staff for dealing with the madness at Handworks in a very friendly and professional way. There were a lot of people in that barn!

Rob Lee
05-24-2017, 2:58 PM
Kudos to Rob Lee and his staff for dealing with the madness at Handworks in a very friendly and professional way. There were a lot of people in that barn!

Good thing too.... we needed the heat! :)

Joe Williams
05-24-2017, 3:38 PM
Handworks was right in the graduation weekend for me for my daughter and I missed it so glad there may be some sneaky leeway for us!