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Jim Riseborough
02-20-2017, 1:42 PM
Found a good deal online for a PJ882 8" jointer. Been in storage for a while, so needs some work, but easily cleaned up hopefully.

Also has a 3 phase motor, so will need to get a VFD

Heres before pics!

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Hopefully this is the last jointer I buy.

Ronald Mancini
02-20-2017, 1:58 PM
Not very good for long boards.

Chris Hachet
02-20-2017, 2:02 PM
Congrats, I like three phase motors very well, would rather ahve that and a VFD. In terms of long boards, I rarely work anything longer than 5 foot, so this would be perfect for me.

Dan Friedrichs
02-20-2017, 2:06 PM
I think Ronald was being sarcastic since this has an "extra long" bed :)

Congrats! Very nice looking jointer.

Mike Manning
02-20-2017, 2:24 PM
Congrats Jim! Nice jointer!

glenn bradley
02-20-2017, 2:29 PM
Congrats! A little elbow grease and away you go.

Jim Riseborough
02-20-2017, 2:54 PM
Thanks, a few more pics to come. Cleaned up the fence, used WD40, steel wool and wet sand with WD40

Ken Fitzgerald
02-20-2017, 4:00 PM
Nice find! May it serve you well!

Jim Riseborough
02-20-2017, 7:12 PM
Fence cleaned up. Not sure about the machine marks. I hit it with wet sand paper over a flat machined piece of steel. Looks like there are some machine marks left, but still feels good.

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mike wacker
02-20-2017, 7:19 PM
PJ882 is a nice machine. Like all tools it needs attention. Miss the one I left in Maine.

Jim Riseborough
02-20-2017, 7:43 PM
I felt bad for the guy selling, he had to clean out his shop since his machine shop business had to move in, seems he had to downsize, and his home shop became his business. Said he had other tools, but I didnt have the cash on me to buy anything else. He had a big CNC machine for wood, a big sander, and a panel saw like you see in homedepot. Also said he other stuff in another buildng.

I should have it running by end of the week hopefully!!

Frank Drew
02-21-2017, 12:53 PM
Nice score, Jim!

Jim Riseborough
02-24-2017, 11:26 AM
354757Cleaned up. A few pit marks. Waiting on VFD

Sam Layton
02-24-2017, 11:56 AM
Good deal. Jim it looks new. Looks like you got a great jointer that should serve you well.

Sam

Sam Beagle
02-24-2017, 12:27 PM
What did you end up paying for the jointer. It's always been high on my list of wants.

Jim Riseborough
02-24-2017, 12:38 PM
What did you end up paying for the jointer. It's always been high on my list of wants.

I got it for $1050. Seemed ok deal, Most Delta DJ20's I saw were over $1200. Does not have helical head though. 3ph too, so i have to get a VFD.

Jeff Ramsey
02-24-2017, 12:47 PM
As you may know, HP is lost with a VFD. You can do the calculations, but you may want to consider swapping out the 3P motor for a single phase, unless you want to go the rotary phase converter route (where no HP is lost, if sized correctly).

Jim Riseborough
02-24-2017, 1:08 PM
As you may know, HP is lost with a VFD. You can do the calculations, but you may want to consider swapping out the 3P motor for a single phase, unless you want to go the rotary phase converter route (where no HP is lost, if sized correctly).

The VFD I bought is designed for this I believe so I dont loose HP.

Malcolm McLeod
02-24-2017, 1:51 PM
Newer VFDs with Sensorless Vector Control (SVC) or Flux Vector Control will allow a motor to produce at or near both rated torque and Hp, even at lower than 100% speed.

Simple (older) VFDs used just V/hz control, and if a motor was run at less than its synchronous speed, it would produce proportionally less than rated Hp. So if you plan to run slow with a old VFD, Jeff is correct.

However, I can't imagine why you would want a jointer or planer to be running at less than its rated speed. If running at 100% speed, even using a old technology VFD, this power loss should be a non-issue. ....You would basically be using the VFD as a soft start only, and presumably for phase conversion in this case.

Jim Riseborough
02-24-2017, 2:31 PM
Newer VFDs with Sensorless Vector Control (SVC) or Flux Vector Control will allow a motor to produce at or near both rated torque and Hp, even at lower than 100% speed.

Simple (older) VFDs used just V/hz control, and if a motor was run at less than its synchronous speed, it would produce proportionally less than rated Hp. So if you plan to run slow with a old VFD, Jeff is correct.

However, I can't imagine why you would want a jointer or planer to be running at less than its rated speed. If running at 100% speed, even using a old technology VFD, this power loss should be a non-issue. ....You would basically be using the VFD as a soft start only, and presumably for phase conversion in this case.

Im pretty sure I got Flux Capacitor Control - It says fluxmaster on it. https://www.tecowestinghouse.com/products/Drives/fm50.html

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