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John TenEyck
02-09-2017, 8:39 PM
I just finished building and installing 3 divided light doors. This rectangular one was made to fit into an existing jamb, and is about 32" wide.

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And these arched French doors were installed in what was prior an open archway. They are each 36" wide.

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The wood is rift sawn Sapele to come close to what I think is Philippine mahogany in the existing doors and trim work. The tempered glass is called "rain".

John

Patrick McCarthy
02-09-2017, 9:06 PM
John, I always enjoy seeing your work. Nicely done, sir.

Jim Becker
02-09-2017, 9:20 PM
John...they look GREAT!!! I love the curved top doors especially!

Joe A Faulkner
02-09-2017, 10:08 PM
Great looking doors. The workmanship is super and the finish looks top notch.
I have the same style of interior trim in my house. An old two story farm house. I really like the outside corner trim. Very well done.

Scott Brader
02-10-2017, 8:08 AM
Beautiful!!!

Lee Schierer
02-10-2017, 8:28 AM
Excellent work.

Will Boulware
02-10-2017, 11:03 AM
Seriously impressive work! Any photos from the build process or a description of how you cut your arches?

Charles Taylor
02-10-2017, 12:34 PM
Allow me to pile on. Fantastic, inspiring work.

Mel Fulks
02-10-2017, 1:31 PM
They are nice and obviously of a quality above catalog stuff; I remember the thread on tooling . Looks like it worked well. Since the arched opening was existing I'd like to point out a missed opportunity by original builder. Even though the arch was an extra feature ,it is too short and can't claim proper dominance over the other door. But I've seen a lot of that in new work; no matter how carefully planned ,made ,and marked the millwork is ,the carpenters often fancy themselves interior decorators and don't follow drawings. This point is close to the current thread on the handling of arched cabinet doors. Again: just a good place to illustrate a possible "upgrade" and I would not be surprised to hear that John made the same point...and the OWNERS butted in !!

Yonak Hawkins
02-10-2017, 2:02 PM
I was thinking the other way. When all doors are open, aesthetically, all the lines line up.

Mel Fulks
02-10-2017, 2:39 PM
You are right, but traditionaly vertical overall and component height indicate importance. The straight stiles on the fine feature piece are shorter than the other opening. In formal earlier mind sets that would be a "mistake". Today there is emphasis on democratic matching. I'm sure that wherever there is a formal carved and guilded room next to an open closet ...there is someone wondering why they don't "match". I've seen very strange things drawn up by modern architects
and have learned that they can be contemptuous of sugestions ....and embarrassed and uncharacteristicly grateful when what looks like a mistake IS a mistake. I make sure that "mistakes" are intended and will BE PAID FOR; but otherwise
dont offer changes.

John TenEyck
02-10-2017, 3:40 PM
Seriously impressive work! Any photos from the build process or a description of how you cut your arches?


Thanks, and to everyone, for the kind words. I have a pretty detailed photo album of the entire build and installation process: https://goo.gl/photos/q5ngDCzo8YmgDmj8A

John

John TenEyck
02-10-2017, 3:50 PM
You are right, but traditionaly vertical overall and component height indicate importance. The straight stiles on the fine feature piece are shorter than the other opening. In formal earlier mind sets that would be a "mistake". Today there is emphasis on democratic matching. I'm sure that wherever there is a formal carved and guilded room next to an open closet ...there is someone wondering why they don't "match". I've seen very strange things drawn up by modern architects
and have learned that they can be contemptuous of sugestions ....and embarrassed and uncharacteristicly grateful when what looks like a mistake IS a mistake. I make sure that "mistakes" are intended and will BE PAID FOR; but otherwise
dont offer changes.


I am glad the owners didn't ask me to increase the height of the doors. Cutting into the side jambs was no fun at all; not only corner beads but also metal mesh was in there, which all had to be removed. The arch was formed by two pieces of plywood, one on each side of the wall, spanned and wrapped by the same metal mesh. I could not find a single stud between those pieces of plywood; maybe there was a horizontal one somewhere, but certainly there were no vertical ones. Cutting any of that away would have been a real mess and I likely would have done significant damage to the fragile plaster which would not have been easy to repair due to its texture. I was able to carefully hammer away the plaster on the arch where I needed clearance for the new jamb, w/o having to cut into the mesh and plywood above.

John

Will Boulware
02-10-2017, 5:17 PM
Thanks, and to everyone, for the kind words. I have a pretty detailed photo album of the entire build and installation process: https://goo.gl/photos/q5ngDCzo8YmgDmj8A

John

Many thanks for the photo epic! I just learned a lot.

Chris Hachet
02-10-2017, 8:03 PM
Extremely impressive...Love the workmanship.