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Bill Jobe
01-29-2017, 4:41 PM
I can't seem to make up my mind whether to build an unattached workshop, make room for a new, bigger lathe in the garage or invest in a very effevient dust removal system and put my lathe in a lower floor that we did not care for as a family room. It has no air intakes for the NG furnace so clogging furnace filters would not be a problem.
I had a 20x16 addition built on the ground floor of our trilevel house. Much better.
What I would most prefer would be to convert the lower floor into a workshop. That would require a very efficient dust removal system, which really wouldn't cost any more than my other options.
Do they make dust removal systems for such means?
A separate building would require heat and air...already have that in the house.
It just isn'the much fun going outside in the cold to work in the cold season.
Does it make sense to use the lower floor which is only a couple of feet below the surface? It is separated from the rest of the living area of the house by 6 or seven stairs and a wood door.
Noise won't be that big of problem, but the setup would require a total dust free area. And for the first time in a couple of years I'd have room in my garage for my truck.
Does my idea have merit?

John Grace
01-29-2017, 5:45 PM
I have my lathe in the garage at the farthest point from the door into our home and I cannot imagine the chips and dust if my shop was in the basement. Obviously many do it but if you're seriously considering it, it may be just as well that you visit a professional ventilation group to plan out your system. Just a thought...good luck.

Dennis Ford
01-29-2017, 6:13 PM
The lower floor would be your least expensive option (and possibly most comfortable). I don't think "total dust free" is really possible but with ventilation separate from the house, a closet size space to use as an airlock and very good dust control; you should be good to go.

Thom Sturgill
01-29-2017, 6:18 PM
While capturing sanding dust is do-able, even with a small system. Using the dust collection system to catch the curlies is unlikely, though it could be used for a floor sweep. Some sanding dust is very nasty (any rosewood) and exposure can cause reactions, so dust collection would be a must either in the house or garage in my opinion. I don't know where you are, but heat could be a wood burner to help get rid of the waste in some areas. In others, that would be prohibited. Just some thoughts....

John K Jordan
01-29-2017, 6:22 PM
Some people have found both the noise and dust a huge problem in basement and attached shops. A cyclone dust collector can be LOUD, mine is probably the loudest thing in the shop. My shop is down the hill 250' from my house and yes, I put in separate heat and air. But I don't mind the walk even in bad weather. Good exercise for a old guy. I can play in the shop even if someone is sleeping in the house and they can't hear a thing.

Seems like central heat/air in the room in the house would require adding conditioned air vents and returns.

If you do build a new shop, make it bigger than you think you will need! I built mine 24x62 a few years ago and it's already packed full.

JKJ

Edward Weingarden
01-29-2017, 6:52 PM
Does the lower floor have a walkout? You need to be able to get the shavings out.

Bill Jobe
01-29-2017, 9:15 PM
Does the lower floor have a walkout? You need to be able to get the shavings out.

No it doesn't. Not too concerned about carrying the shavings out...just don't want any dust.

Bill Jobe
01-29-2017, 9:21 PM
While a walkout would be nice, my only option would be at the front of the house. Rear and side have natural gas and sewer lines.

Bill ThompsonNM
01-30-2017, 12:30 AM
Of course, lets stop a minute and keep our priorities straight. Is it a serious lathe? (Well a Serious or Robust lathe). If so I think it belongs front and center in the living room. Heck with some subterranean rabbit hole.

Bill Jobe
01-30-2017, 1:14 AM
To tell you the truth, if I lived alone that may very well be where you would find it.:)

William C Rogers
01-30-2017, 9:15 AM
I can't seem to make up my mind whether to build an unattached workshop, make room for a new, bigger lathe in the garage or invest in a very effevient dust removal system and put my lathe in a lower floor that we did not care for as a family room. It has no air intakes for the NG furnace so clogging furnace filters would not be a problem.
I had a 20x16 addition built on the ground floor of our trilevel house. Much better.
What I would most prefer would be to convert the lower floor into a workshop. That would require a very efficient dust removal system, which really wouldn't cost any more than my other options.
Do they make dust removal systems for such means?
A separate building would require heat and air...already have that in the house.
It just isn'the much fun going outside in the cold to work in the cold season.
Does it make sense to use the lower floor which is only a couple of feet below the surface? It is separated from the rest of the living area of the house by 6 or seven stairs and a wood door.
Noise won't be that big of problem, but the setup would require a total dust free area. And for the first time in a couple of years I'd have room in my garage for my truck.
Does my idea have merit?

You can minimize the dust, but I can't imagine how you can have a "total dust free area". How much will depend on what equipment you are using, how good your DC is, and how well you collect at the source. With a lathe you can collect while sanding, but when turning you are creating dust and chips that are near impossible to collect. Adding air filtration will help and this might work. I had a basement shop a very long time ago. It wasn't the dust that was a problem, it was the steps. Just a pain carrying material up and down. I built a house and shop about 2 years ago. My shop is about 75' from the house. I have heat, but no AC. I do have a sink and toilet. A separate shop is not an inexpensive option. The basement option might work for you if you have a good cyclone DC and air filtration system. Keep in mind you will need to empty the bin and that can get messy.

Bill Jobe
01-30-2017, 1:03 PM
share your sentiments about stairs. My house is a tri-level, meaning I have to go up and down stairs no matter what I'm doing.*

I brought up the lower level because, besides being the least expensive option, it would be far less labor.*

My knees are shot and when I tried to talk to my doctor about replacements, suddenly a far greater medical problem was found. While my worse blockage was just 60% and just 2 others at 30%, they discovered that I have . anemia .*

So over the past 2 months I've gone through a multitude of procedures to find the cause. So far nothing. The level of anemia is at 8. I've had my entire GI system checked out from end to end. Upper and lower are fine. Tomorrow I get the results of the pill camera.*

If that goes well my heart doctor will go in and deal with the view blockage.*


From there they've given me no hints as to what they do after that to find the cause of the anemia.*


So, building a shop separate from the house would be the best choice and a friend of mine has built many structures and promises to help me. But that can't happen til spring when the ground thaws.*

Another option,and perhaps 2nd best would be another shed to put all the junk in my garage in.*

I can tell you all of the choices will be painfull.*

Not complaining just looking at it from a perspective not my own.

So I dragged the mess over here to SC for suggestions.

I just want to turn. I have a garage full of some really nice pieces, but they will not swing at under 10".*

I want to turn.

Yesterday I found a piece I had forgotten. I had turned the bark and a bit more off, painted the ends with latex and tossed it in the shed perhaps a year ago.*

Got it out and put it on the HD mini and made a thin cut from end to end. Absolutely gorgeous. I think it's peach. I sealed the ends again with AS to wait for a bigger and better lathe...766.

So that's why you see posts that sound like a madman typed them. I am frustrated. *

And I just want to turn wood.

John K Jordan
01-30-2017, 1:18 PM
Another option,and perhaps 2nd best would be another shed to put all the junk in my garage in.*


Do you live in town or out in the country? I have a number of structures at the farm here but for storage a cheap and easy way is a shipping container - level a spot, spread some gravel, and have it set in place. Not the prettiest thing but no problem if you have an out of the way place to tuck it. The last one I bought is aluminum, 8'x8'x40', and just $1500 (I put vents in it and use it for hay storage.) I've seen people put wood sides and roofs on them to make them pretty.

JKJ

David M Peters
01-30-2017, 1:49 PM
I have a basement workshop and while I've had good success with controller dust via a cyclone & air filter it isn't "dust free". After a weeks horizontal surfaces will accumulate a fine layer of dust but it's nothing a quick vacuuming won't take care of. With my basement having an exterior entrance the convenience of plumbing & HVAC is great. I used to work in my detached, non climate-controlled garage and it was really terrible for all but 3 months of the year.

Bill, If your lower level has reasonable exterior access I'd pursue a good dust collection system for it and make it your workshop.

William C Rogers
01-30-2017, 2:17 PM
Stairs! I'm just tired of them. Last house was a tri-level, one before was a two story, and one before that had the basement. Going up and Dow stairs is not a real problem. Going up and down carrying a board or chunk of wood is more difficult. When I built my new house the biggest step I have is 4" except for the front door that has one step. I don't use the front door. Every option has benefits and negatives. You just need to see what is the best for you.

Don Jarvie
01-30-2017, 7:59 PM
Can you enclose the stairs leading up to the living area? Put a sealed door like you need for an attached garage at the bottom and top of the steps. Add an air cleaner with a time and run that when your in there and after. You should get very little dust getting into the house.

If you can't enclose the stairs just add the door for the living area.

Bill Jobe
01-30-2017, 10:20 PM
No. The boss says it goes in a workshop apart from the house. Me and a friend start building first sign of spring.
That would work just fine, especially when I'm in the doghouse. Tall enough for a loft with a bed.

John RStegall
01-31-2017, 7:47 AM
My "boss" just issued the same edict. Guess there is going to be more than one stand alone shop being built this spring.

john snowdon
01-31-2017, 8:34 AM
Congrats on "your" decision to build, Bill. It's nice when Momma helps make a great decision with you! Having open windows and sunlight in a shop will be a true joy! I have a very nice basement shop and feel I control the dust as well as possible with a 3hp DC and room air filtration. Like David, I do get a fine layer of dust on flat surfaces after a while but I tend to keep a meticulously clean shop due to sinus issues. Building a separate shop wasn't an option for me as I do not want to have to deal with going out in the snow to get to it, heating it and then add the hidden cost of paying the property taxes on another building. Even my woodshed is taxed as it is an outbuilding.

Bill Jobe
01-31-2017, 12:42 PM
My "boss" just issued the same edict. Guess there is going to be more than one stand alone shop being built this spring.

Can't they be mean?!!!

Bill Jobe
01-31-2017, 12:58 PM
I wish there was a way to connect it to the house, but just not any reasonable ways.
As for taxes, I will have to pay no taxes for 4 years....cause I'm old.
And I figure it would add about half of what it costs me to the resale value should we find a place in the country to buy.
I sure wish I'd listened to her when we bought this house nearly 30 years ago. She wanted in the country and my priority was ready to live in with no labor, aside from paint and such.
An old house in the country, as she wanted, always seem to come with well water and septic problems.

Larry Cutlip
01-31-2017, 3:57 PM
My boss thinks a garage is to park a car in. I don't know where they get that idea.

Larry

Bill ThompsonNM
02-01-2017, 12:21 AM
My boss thinks a garage is to park a car in. I don't know where they get that idea. Larry
You have to be careful about that. In 30 years I've never left room for a car in the garage!