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Rich Riddle
01-26-2017, 7:18 PM
I appreciate all the help in deciding upon a skid steer as opposed to a tractor and made a selection. After reviewing everything you said, here is the selection. You had indicated a skid steer would offer a bit better stability on the hill and that Case uses only hand controls and that is superior to hand and foot controls. This one has about 3600 hours and seems in decent shape. Hopefully most of how you helped me manifests in this selection.

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daryl moses
01-26-2017, 9:34 PM
looks nice!!! Would of come in handy today skidding out logs here on the farm. I made do with my Polaris Ranger and the old Yanmar.
Enjoy!!

Rich Riddle
01-26-2017, 10:44 PM
I have a small Yanmar 147D tractor and love it; they're hard to beat.

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looks nice!!! Would of come in handy today skidding out logs here on the farm. I made do with my Polaris Ranger and the old Yanmar.
Enjoy!!

Rod Sheridan
01-27-2017, 8:41 AM
If it snows this weekend can you come up and do my driveway please?

Regards, Rod.

Jerry Bruette
01-27-2017, 12:04 PM
Nice machine, the pulp mill I used to work at had one and yes the joysticks are way better than the foot controls, especially if you're taller.

Bit of advice you don't want to raise a load all the way up if you're facing up an incline, you could end up on your back like a turtle. I've seen it done once and the operator had to shake out his pants.

Rich Riddle
01-27-2017, 5:44 PM
It only goes about 6 miles per hour so I don't think it would make it to you in time for the snow. Do you think this can push snow?
If it snows this weekend can you come up and do my driveway please?

Regards, Rod.

Jim Becker
01-27-2017, 6:30 PM
Oooh...kick-butt power tool! Nice!

Ronald Blue
01-27-2017, 10:49 PM
This should serve you well. Do you have any additional attachments for it? Those tracks will make it able to go a lot of places.

Rich Riddle
01-27-2017, 11:02 PM
Ronald,

I have no attachments at this time but am considering forks. John said something about forks being handy when I started asking about skid steers. What attachments do you recommend?
This should serve you well. Do you have any additional attachments for it? Those tracks will make it able to go a lot of places.

Ronald Blue
01-27-2017, 11:31 PM
Forks would be a great first acquisition. I don't know what things you need to do on your acreage. I see it has the remote outlets to allow you to run auxilliary attachments like a post hole digger.

Jim Becker
01-28-2017, 10:55 AM
There are so many different kinds of attachments available for these machines. You can acquire those you might use a lot and often rent others for one-time needs.

Rich Riddle
01-28-2017, 4:41 PM
Jim,

I have a feeling the forks will get used a lot and aren't all that expensive. Knowing which forks to purchase is the problem. I also need to learn how to remove/install attachments.

Jim Becker
01-28-2017, 5:50 PM
While I have no experience, I understand that the quick attach system on these things is pretty easy to deal with...and standardized, if I'm not mistaken.

Rod Sheridan
01-28-2017, 6:44 PM
It only goes about 6 miles per hour so I don't think it would make it to you in time for the snow. Do you think this can push snow?

Hi Rich, I'm sure it can push snow, at least in the downhill direction:D

Come on over, it's snowing and I just put hamburgers on the BBQ..............Rod.

Ronald Blue
01-29-2017, 4:30 PM
It should have a universal skidsteer quick hitch that is pretty much an industry standard. That will allow you much flexibility. I would look for forks that are width adjustable like a fork lift.

Rich Riddle
01-29-2017, 7:00 PM
Thanks for that information. I will look for adjustable forks but the ones that adjust hydraulically from inside the cab are a bit expensive.
It should have a universal skidsteer quick hitch that is pretty much an industry standard. That will allow you much flexibility. I would look for forks that are width adjustable like a fork lift.

Mike Kees
01-29-2017, 10:02 PM
Hey Rich ,nice looking machine. The 1845 is a solid one. Oversize engine that never has to work as hard as it could so it will last for ever. I have owned a bobcat 753 for about 15 years. As a carpenter /contractor I would say hands down forks are the most used attachment after a bucket on my machine. I have a hydraulic auger and 6'',9'',and 12'' bits as well as a 12' boom with a hook at the end that I use to lift small trusses/walls. Unless you are building a real big fence or have a use for an auger it probably makes way more sense to rent one when you need it. I actually prefer skid steers with foot controls for the boom/bucket. Its a personal thing ,hand controls are easier to master for a beginner. Wear the seat belt all of the time, it will keep your back from getting sore if you spend a couple hours in the machine at a time. Have fun and be prepared to meet all kinds of friends you never knew you had.Mike.

Ronald Blue
01-29-2017, 10:03 PM
I wouldn't get the hydraulic adjustable type just some manually adjustable ones. If you were going to be using them all the time maybe.

Mike Kees
01-29-2017, 10:08 PM
Sorry, just re-read your post about forks. Check out Bobcat forks, they only have one model. I have found that they have usually the best pricing on attachments.

Rich Riddle
01-31-2017, 8:08 PM
I picked these up at auction for the Case Skid Steer. They're American made, and this set cost about half as much as new. Strange thing is that I was going to purchase this set new. These were about a mile from the house.

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Ronald Blue
02-01-2017, 6:35 PM
I think you did good. You will have to post a photo of them on the machine. As was stated earlier definitely wear the seat belt.

John K Jordan
02-01-2017, 7:10 PM
I picked these up at auction for the Case Skid Steer. They're American made, and this set cost about half as much as new. Strange thing is that I was going to purchase this set new. These were about a mile from the house.


You'll love those if you move things around. I use forks a lot, just an hour ago to move a pallet of bags of Quikcrete, move a few tons of black locust from a dead tree, and to move a bunch of logs and telephone poles yesterday.

Fortunately, my Kubota tractor uses the standard skid-steer quick connect so I can share forks between the two. Since the skid steer can lift a lot more weight than the tractor it gets the heavy stuff.

I did have a problem once - I bought an entire wrapped bundle of 2x6-10' lumber to frame my shop. Somehow I got it off the trailer and onto the ground with the forks, but when I went to lift and move it it lifted the back wheels off the ground! I was able to move the bundle by skidding the forks on the ground and driving with the front wheels only. I'd like to find a set of used bolt-on weights for the back of the machine but they are expensive.

I ran the skid steer for much of today. I leveled and compacted a spot for a new peacock house, 12'x24', got the batter boards up and ready to set poles. This building is next to the first one and will have a passageway connecting the two for flexibility in managing the flock. Hoping for more chicks this summer.

JKJ

Rich Riddle
02-01-2017, 8:39 PM
John,

I have seen people use chains and straps over forks to lift things, so that will likely happen with this skid steer. I read what others say concerning tractors and skid steers so that avoidable injuries or incidents don't occur. Have a good day in Tennessee.

John K Jordan
02-02-2017, 12:08 AM
I have seen people use chains and straps over forks to lift things, so that will likely happen with this skid steer. I read what others say concerning tractors and skid steers so that avoidable injuries or incidents don't occur.

I like to weld grab hooks to the top of the bucket, one on either side, so I can lift with a couple of big skidding tongs. (Don't tell OSHA) I put a slip hook in the center for cables and straps. Since I have the bucket on more than the forks this is more useful (and more secure) than hanging things from the forks. With the hooks you can also pull a chain or cable as well, harder to do with forks. In addition, since I put 3' lengths of chain on the tongs I can actually lift heavier loads with my tractor than I can't even lift with the boom: lift the boom as far as it will go then tilt the bucket up. On my tractor the bucket cylinders can lift more than the boom cylinders due to the geometry. I also fasten a couple of hooks on the BACK side of the boom near the bottom - not much reach but much more lifting force there since it's closer to the cylinder.

I bought a 50ft length of 3/8" chain once for a song and put a grab hook on one end only - I've used that 100 times! (especially for logging) You probably know this, but you can use a chain or cable to load a log far heavier than you can ever lift: wrap a chain around it and pull to roll it up some ramps to load onto a trailer or flatbed. I've pulled with a small car and even a 4-wheeler.

Getting hurt, or not: When I got my first tractor (and first chain saw, skid steer, weapons, welders,...) the first thing I did was research all the ways I could find to get hurt or killed. You can't protect against what you don't know and can't imagine.

A few: Not as much a problem with a skid steer but one way to get hurt on a tractor is do drive through the woods and accidentally bump a tree. That dead "widow-maker" limb way up high may be on your head a short time later. (I know a guy who needed 17 stitches in his head from a limb THREE trees away from the one that moved!) Another that might apply a bit to a skid steer but more to a tractor: drive through the woods and knock down saplings, then drive back the way you came. People have been found impaled by saplings that snaked up through the machine. A good way to lose your head and face is to clear brush and small trees by driving forwards to knock them down then backwards for another go. Catch a small tree with the back corner of the bucket and due to the force applied close to the fulcrum (the roots) the tree will come directly at you at a very high speed. DAMHIKT. The skid steer cab will protect from much of that but a limb can still come into an open-front cab like an arrow. A "good" way to flip over a tractor is to be driving sideways on a slope, completely under control, then drop a front tire into a small depression or run over a rock or limb - the "under control" can immediately turn into a roll down the hill. (Another good reason to never get in a hurry.) Or working on a hill, raise or lower the bucket while against a stump or rock or lift a rock on the wrong side of the bucket or, etc... Another accident just waiting to happen that everyone knows is driving too close to an embankment, even a small one - it gives away under one tire? hope you are wearing a seat belt and have strong ROPS and no tree or big rock enters your space. Or carry a heavy load in the bucket driving down hill. Or raise the bucket too high with a load. Or tilt the bucket up too much and have the load come backwards into the cab. Or catch one corner of a tractor ROPS on a strong, low limb while driving forward. Or clear brush or dig in the summer/fall and stir up a hornet/yellow jacket nest. (I neighbor's granddad died that way when he jumped off the moving tractor to escape and was run over when he caught his foot. I carry a couple of cans of spray AND wear long sleeves and a face net.) Or leave the bucket off the ground and get off the tractor - I've had a cat jump up and bump the stick. OK, I quit now.

Don't get me started about chain saws! (just read the little book "The Good Woodcutter's Guide)

JKJ

Jim Becker
02-02-2017, 10:18 AM
John, I have hooks welded on both my FEL and on the bottom of the BH bucket for similar utility on the little Kubota. It's very helpful to have hard-points to fasten things to.

John K Jordan
02-02-2017, 1:36 PM
John, I have hooks welded on both my FEL and on the bottom of the BH bucket for similar utility on the little Kubota. It's very helpful to have hard-points to fasten things to.

Where do you attach hooks to the backhoe bucket so they are not in the way when digging? That sounds very useful.

When I grow up I want to get a trackhoe with a thumb. I'd even be happy with a mini-ex.

JKJ

Jim Becker
02-02-2017, 8:36 PM
The chain hook is welded to the back of the bucket, John, with the open end facing "up" if the bucket teeth are pointing toward the ground. On the FEL, they are on the top, back edge on each side. I had the dealer put them on before taking delivery...I don't weld.

Mike Kees
02-03-2017, 12:58 AM
Hey John, just get a couple of guys to jump on the back for extra weight,we do it all the time. The scariest thing that has happened to me is a bank breaking on the edge of a basement that I was back filling. I was really happy that I had my seat belt on that day. John what do you do with the peacocks ? Mike.

Rich Riddle
02-03-2017, 2:08 AM
I can have folks jump on the back for extra weight? That's a consideration......well it's one if the wife isn't anywhere near me to find out what I am contemplating. Something about safety.....

John K Jordan
02-03-2017, 6:04 AM
The chain hook is welded to the back of the bucket, John, with the open end facing "up" if the bucket teeth are pointing toward the ground. On the FEL, they are on the top, back edge on each side. I had the dealer put them on before taking delivery...I don't weld.

Thanks, that makes sense, I'll add a couple. My dealer also welded some hooks on the FEL just as you describe. Unfortunately he used the type of hook made for use with a large clevis pin, welding just one leg to the bucket. When one eventually snapped off I discovered the hooks designed for welding, forged with a bevel for a strong weld and bought a few extra "just in case."

I use my backhoe even more than I thought I would around the farm, especially since friends have aging animal herds.

JKJ

John K Jordan
02-03-2017, 8:41 AM
Hey John, just get a couple of guys to jump on the back for extra weight,we do it all the time. The scariest thing that has happened to me is a bank breaking on the edge of a basement that I was back filling. I was really happy that I had my seat belt on that day. John what do you do with the peacocks ? Mike.

I'll start a weight gain program for a select few. Hey, a new question when hiring some help: How much do you weigh? :)

One issue: from my reading I found a number of reports of horrible deaths from the common practice of jumping on an auger for a little down pressure. You can imagine the result.

We traded extra guineas for some Indian Blues a few years ago. I love to watch them roaming around and so do visitors and neighbors. However I learned if I let too many out at once they will wander off - found them about a mile down the road once. Now I let just two out at once and herd them back inside every afternoon.

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The second building, attached with a passageway, will give them more room and make management easier. I would like to raise and sell some. Last summer I had two hens sitting on over 30 eggs! These didn't hatch since the incubation was interrupted at least twice by big black snakes. I'll fix that problem. Silly snakes thought they could somehow swallow a peacock egg!

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Young peacocks can be $50 or more. The place I got mine said they usually get $250 for a pair.

JKJ

Jim Becker
02-03-2017, 10:26 AM
John, the hook on the 'hoe doesn't get used much, but it's convenient when I need to pull something or secure something. Since my machine is small, doing something like that on the 'hoe bucket requires filling the FEL for weight balance to avoid light-steering or even "wheelies". :)

I have used that hook to "grab" a trailer hitch from time to time to shift a trailer slightly without having to remove the BH, install the 3pt and use my hitch receiver attachment. Not the best thing, but it worked for small shifts.

Jerry Bruette
02-03-2017, 12:21 PM
Rich,

I don't know how much lifting you'll do with attachments on the bucket, but I would highly recommend doing it with load rated devices only.

Not every chain is rated for lifting you need Grade 80 chain and the appropriate fittings for the size chain you'll be using.

Nylon lifting straps would be a good alternative to chain, I believe the straps are cheaper. You'll just have to be careful of sharp edges and be careful of abrasion wear.

We all preach shop safety and proper guards on our machines but sometimes forget safety outside of the shop.

Oh, and please remember to never go under a suspended load. The only thing that is guaranteed to work in that situation is gravity.

Mike Kees
02-03-2017, 11:57 PM
Rich, I have a hole that I had cut with a cutting torch on the end of one of my forks. We use it to pull rebar with a chain. I have a shackle that I leave on the forks all the time to use in this hole. I also have grab hooks welded to my bucket in the center(directly in line with my ram on a bobcat). I currently own a bobcat mini-excavator as well and have a grab hook welded on the bucket for it as well. This gets used for pulling steel pins when we form concrete driveways and pads etc. All of these greatly enhance safety and give you the ability to accomplish much more. Mike.

Jason Roehl
02-04-2017, 8:47 AM
Now you just need one of these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrAYMkf1AF8

Rich Riddle
02-04-2017, 9:02 AM
Jason,

That Bobcat looks a bit bigger than the Case 1845C, but that's sure one monster attachment just to make firewood. It looks like a $20,000 attachment.

Jason Roehl
02-05-2017, 7:47 AM
Jason,

That Bobcat looks a bit bigger than the Case 1845C, but that's sure one monster attachment just to make firewood. It looks like a $20,000 attachment.


Yeah, the S-series Bobcats use the numbers to designate the weight rating, so the S300 in the video has a 3000 lb load rating. I looked up the 1845C, and the specs I found said its load rating is 1750 lbs, so I bet it would handle that log processor in terms of weight. The bigger issue is probably the flow rate of the auxiliary hydraulics--might be a little slower in operation.

Jim Andrew
02-05-2017, 9:39 AM
I have forks like you purchased. I have a 1" hole in the end of one of the forks, can put a clevis on to use a chain, or use the skidsteer to push trailers into the shed by putting the fork into the hitch, and using a pin or ball. You can drive a trailer backwards exactly where you want it with a skidsteer.

Todd Mason-Darnell
02-05-2017, 11:18 AM
Please be aware I am very jealous.

+1 for getting some hooks welded on your bucket. I had them added to the FEL on my Kioti 27HP tractor and they are perhaps the most used accessory on the tractor other than the sun canopy.

I would recommend you look the tractorbynet website. Think Sawmill creek but for tractors, heavy equipment, trailers, farms, outdoor projects, livestock, etc. The site is moderated and has something like 500k registered users. Everyone is very helpful and willing to help on almost any questions. I am just a dumb city boy who got shanghai'd to the county by wife and her horses and I have learned tons from that site.

Rich Riddle
02-07-2017, 9:08 PM
Todd,

I am registered at tractorbynet but cannot post. It's like they have me in a holding pattern for approval.

Rod Sheridan
02-08-2017, 9:07 AM
Todd,

I am registered at tractorbynet but cannot post. It's like they have me in a holding pattern for approval.

Obviously they have high standards.;)

John A langley
02-08-2017, 9:28 AM
Rod you beat me to it

Todd Mason-Darnell
02-08-2017, 9:41 AM
Rich,

Just sent you a PM about Tractorbynet. You need to activate your account (email authentication).

-Todd

Rod Sheridan
02-08-2017, 1:36 PM
Rod you beat me to it

Poor Rich, he's such a nice guy, and all I do is abuse him..........Rod.

John A langley
02-08-2017, 3:19 PM
It's fun to pick on him and he deserve it (He is a nice guy, his wife is nicer)

Rich Riddle
02-08-2017, 5:25 PM
Let's just hope the Creek doesn't adopt high standards; some of us might not make the cut.