View Full Version : Logier Rifflers vs Auriou?
allen long
01-12-2017, 2:14 PM
I am thinking of getting a set of Rifflers. Has anyone used Logier Rifflers? They appear to be a little more reasonable in cost compared to the Auriou rifflers. I was hoping someone had some experience with the Logier before I pull the trigger on a set.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated
Many Kind Regards . . . . Allen
Tom Bussey
01-12-2017, 6:32 PM
I have a couple of left handed cabinet rasps from Logier and I am more than happy with them.
Patrick Chase
01-12-2017, 8:55 PM
I am thinking of getting a set of Rifflers. Has anyone used Logier Rifflers? They appear to be a little more reasonable in cost compared to the Auriou rifflers. I was hoping someone had some experience with the Logier before I pull the trigger on a set.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated
Many Kind Regards . . . . Allen
I don't think you can go wrong either way. Once you get to that level it becomes a matter of preference as much as anything. I have Aurious rasps and a couple of their rifflers, but have been eyeballing Liogiers to plug a couple holes in my collection. For me the major attraction with Liogier is their use of modern coatings in their higher-end line (which cost more than Aurious)
It's "Liogier" BTW (note extra 'i).
Dave Beauchesne
01-12-2017, 9:26 PM
I agree with Patrick and Tom -
I have LH rasps from both - cannot complain about either.
Dave B
allen long
01-13-2017, 6:46 PM
Someone actually did a side-by-side comparison of the cabinet rasps. You can read it at the following link:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/rasp-road-test-141118
Many Kind Regards . . . Allen
Patrick Chase
01-13-2017, 8:53 PM
Someone actually did a side-by-side comparison of the cabinet rasps. You can read it at the following link:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/rasp-road-test-141118
Many Kind Regards . . . Allen
Also this article, which included basically all of the well-known manufacturers: https://www.canadianwoodworking.com/half-round-cabinet-rasps
Note the chunky handle and relatively slim and deeply-tapered profile on the Liogier. I actually like that combination, but others may not (and of course you can fix the handle if it isn't to your liking).
The machine-made Corradis also look interesting, and are pretty cheap for the quality if you buy enough of them. Shipping from corradishop.com is ~$37 for one 10" cabinet rasp, but only increases to ~$45 for a set of 5.
Patrick Chase
01-13-2017, 9:16 PM
Someone actually did a side-by-side comparison of the cabinet rasps. You can read it at the following link:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f152/rasp-road-test-141118
Many Kind Regards . . . Allen
Sorry about the double-reply, but a couple things caught my attention in that post and subsequent thread:
First, he emphasizes the fact that the Liogier keeps cutting when loaded. Other sources (including the Canadian Woodworker article I linked) have noted that as well, but they've also noted that the Liogiers load up faster to begin with. This is a case where superficial perceptions are misleading, and he appears to have fallen into that trap.
Second, in a later post the reviewer compares how much better the Liogier is to the vast improvement that his L-N 7 was over a classic Stanley 7. That tends to make me doubt his judgment. The L-N 7 is a magnificent plane, and I have several of their planes and love them, but a skilled user (one who knows how to tune and configure their tools) shouldn't see all that much *functional* difference.
The bottom line is that I just don't think that his methods or judgment are sound. In particular I don't buy that the Liogier would be *that* much better than the Auriou, particularly when everybody else who's reviewed them rates them pretty closely (and both excellent). All FWIW of course :-).
One other possibility is that Auriou had some product problems when they when through their period of labor unrest (http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/chris-schwarz-blog/auriou-french-rasp-maker-since-1856-closes-its-doors-2). His post is from a few years after that...
Frederick Skelly
01-13-2017, 9:35 PM
Those were both good articles. Thanks guys!
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