Dust Collector Switching

[Brad Seubert]

I am planning on purchasing an Oneida V3000 and have been researching the different switching options available and need a little guidance.

I like the idea of having a few well placed switches around the shop instead of having a remote to always loose. Seems simple enough to just get a contactor and wire some switches into that, but the more I looked into it the more confused I became. The DC already has a magnetic starter on it so do I have to disable that or can I have the contactor that I put together then go to the magnetic starter on the DC?

Also when looking around Oneida's website I came across this: http://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=AMA000000&CatId={29CDCAF0-0D43-423E-9C26-89AB411B086E} Which seems to be exactly what I need but they don't really have any info about it. When I asked the salesman he said I don't want that because in order to use that I need to also buy these switches. http://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=AMP000001&CatId={29CDCAF0-0D43-423E-9C26-89AB411B086E} Can't I just make up my own switches?

[Jim Becker]

There have been a number of discussions about this kind of thing including recently. The most flexible solution tends to be using a contactor (a type of relay) that switches the 240v power to the cyclone using a control circuit that can be either 120v or low voltage. That means you can use pretty much any kind of "local switch" you want to turn the DC on and off from your shop. While I personally prefer the simplicity of a centrally located switch in my shop for that, it's easy to use wireless remotes, etc., to "control the control circuit" back to the contactor. I show my setup in this recent thread in post #6

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?249962-Best-Remote-Control-Start-for-a-2-HP-DC

[Brad Seubert]

Thanks Jim, I saw that post. What I am wondering is does a solution like that require me to re-wire the motor to bypass the switch and magnetic starter that comes on it from the factory? In other words, can I create something like you show and just plug my dust collector into it, so I will have my homemade contactor setup and switches and then the switch on the machine from the factory as well?

Or do I need to re-wire the motor to eliminate the switch and magnetic starter that comes from the factory?

[Jim Becker]

If the unit has a magnetic switch from the factory...you are replacing that switch. I'm not sure about the "magnetic starter" you mention...my experience is with two Oneida cyclones and there's no switch...or even cord...from the factory.

[Brad Seubert]

Got it. The specs on this particular unit says it comes with a magnetic starter with on off with and overload protection.

http://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=XXVM030139H35VP&CatId={883C6AA7-4C85-49FD-9EEA-C51D09DC8B19}

I ordered it yesterday and just went ahead and ordered the remote and may just get a second remote and Velcro them to permanent spots in the shop. That seemed like the simplest solution. Hopefully the remote works well.