Record 043 Plough Plane.

[Stewie Simpson]

Purchased this (pre 1964) Record 043 back in April 2010. Supplied by the manufacturer with 3 blade widths, 1/8, 3/16, & 1/4".
Its primary function is for cutting grooves. Can be worked against the grain. Not ideal for cross grain dado's. Best used with a fine set below the bottom line of the skate. As with most Plough Planes, your start at the forward end of the board, and work your way back as you deepen the cut.

Stewie;

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[Stewie Simpson]

If you have ever tried to use the 043 without an auxiliary fence you would understand its a nightmare trying to balance the plane while keeping the fence tight against the work piece.

The auxiliary fence fitted is 25 x 30mm. I chose to use a softwood over a hardwood in order to better balance the weight felt on the outboard side of the plane. The extra thickness provides for improved registration of the fingers of the left hand on the underside of the fence. That extra thickness also allowed me to use longer 1/2" round head screws to better draw the auxiliary fence tight against it primary. With the extra thickness provided I also have plenty of scope in the future to resurface the inside face of the auxiliary fence as wear from being rubbed tightly against the edge off the work piece takes it toll.

The extra depth provided by the auxiliary fence provides a deeper registration against the work piece.

It may not show clearly within the attached photos, but a 1/8" deep V shaped rebate has been added which follows the bed line of the blade. This prevents the shavings from getting caught if the rebate is started at the very edge of the work piece.

regards Stewie;

[lowell holmes]

I immediately added a fence to my Lee Valley small plough. I didn't make the fence as wide as Stewie. The V shaped rebate is a good idea. I will add it to my plane.

FWIW, the small plough is delightful to use.:) (that is a gloat)

[Stewie Simpson]

Lowell; my small plough plane cost me us$56.00. How much did yours cost. :D

Stewie;

[Jim Belair]

I also have a Record 043 and added a fence as shown. I've been happy with it's performance.

[Stewie Simpson]

That's good to hear Jim.

Stewie;

[lowell holmes]

IIRC, mine was $76.00 :)

Actually it was $275...:(

[Bill Houghton]

I'm curious what benefit the 043 offers compared to Record's 044, Lee Valley's small plow that was inspired by the 044, and other other plow/combination planes? The photos I've seen of it in use look kind of awkward for average to large adult hands.

[lowell holmes]

I don't wrap all my fingers around the tote of my Lee Valley. Just thumb and fore finger with other three fingers lightly touching the board below the iron. It is a different plane to use than a smoother. All of the strokes are light taking very thin shavings.

[Stewie Simpson]

I'm curious what benefit the 043 offers compared to Record's 044, Lee Valley's small plow that was inspired by the 044, and other other plow/combination planes? The photos I've seen of it in use look kind of awkward for average to large adult hands.

Bill; I would suggest the LV looks more like the butt ugly Record 044c. http://www.cornishworkshop.co.uk/record044cmanual.pdf

Record 044. http://www.record-plane-reviews.co.uk/record-plane-no-044.php

[Bill Houghton]

Bill; I would suggest the LV it looks more like the butt ugly Record 044c. http://www.cornishworkshop.co.uk/record044cmanual.pdf

I won't argue aesthetics; I was more interested in function. The 043 looks like something that would give me finger cramps.

[Stewie Simpson]

Bill; I have decent sized mitts, and I find the thicker dimensioned auxiliary fence helps.

[lowell holmes]

Stewie,

That Record is an ugly plane, I see no resemblance. But, since when is a plane supposed to be beautiful?:)

The beauty comes if it does what it is supposed to. I find the Lee Valley plane is clean looking, but ???

Bill, if you grip the plane hard enough to cramp your fingers, you would be doing it wrong.

I find that plowing a groove is accomplished by light relaxed strokes. I find my thumb just touching the
handle on the near side, with the fore finger laying along side the other side. and left hand holding the fence against the wood. I'm not gripping anything that would cause finger cramps. If you suffer hand problems, that might be different. Actually, the plane is pushed by the palm of the right hand with the thumb and fingers along side.

[Derek Cohen]

I prefer a deeper but thinner subfence. I do not see the point of making it thick - this simply reduces some of the rod length. The ideal subfence for me is like the one on my Small Plow ..

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The one on my Rapier #043 has less depth, mainly because it is used for smaller pieces. The #043 was used for the curved rebate which I added to the drawer bottom below ...

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/BuildingTheDrawers_html_4864b65c.jpg




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Incidentally, I have two sets of rods for my #043, one short and one long. The short rods plus the thinner fence reduces the mass and increases feedback.

For those interested, I wrote a comparison of the #043, #044 and Small Plow here (http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/The%20Veritas%20Small%20Plow%20Plane.html) about a decade ago. Reading through the article, there are helpful tips for setting up the fence of the #043.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Stewie Simpson]

You have been a busy bee Derek.

Stewie;

[lowell holmes]

The fence on my plane took on the characteristics of Derek's, maybe because I copied his. It works.

[Ray Bohn]

Derek,

Thanks for the link. Your article has helped answer several of my questions.

[Derek Cohen]

Hi Lowell and Ray .. pleased to be of some help.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Don Dorn]

The Shakers used to say that beauty lies in function. Mine happens to be a Record 44 and while it works very well, by it's nature of escapement, you get a good set of wooden bracelets by the time your groove it cut.

[Mike Brady]

Having used both the Record 43 and LV plows, I find the LV to be much easier to manage and way more comfortable to use. This comes at a high price though: the LV costs more than double of what 43's go for. For a limited use tool that's a big difference for comfort.

[Derek Cohen]

Mike, a plough plane is not a "limited use tool" for most hand tool users. Certainly not for me. I agree with your reasons for preferring it over the #043. The #043 is a nice little plough but not in the same league as the Veritas. When you look at it as a purchase to be used over many year, the extra cost (if you can afford it) is really negligible. And this does not take into account the possible use as a rebate plane (it does a very good job), tongue-and-grooved plane (Ok, it can be a little fussy to set up, but it works very well) or a beading plane (lots of promise there).

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Mark Gibney]

Stewie, I bought a Record 43 a few months back, haven't used it yet. Can you explain what you mean by the 1/8" deep V shaped rebate?

thanks, Mark

[Stewie Simpson]

Mark; the V formed is based on 2 angles. An extension of the bed line that intersects at a 90* line, measured from the front of the mouth (+ 1/8") for additional clearance. A 1/8" depth of rebate will accommodate the widest of 3 blades supplied, 1/8", 3/16", and 1/4". The manufacturers recommendation is to use a 35* flat primary bevel. In operation, the 043 plane works best when the cutting edge is finely set just below the bottom edge of the skate. Hope this info helps.

Note; the 1/8" depth of rebate allows the auxiliary fence to be pushed tightly against the side face of the skate with the widest 1/4" blade fitted. This aids working a rebate that commences from the outside edge of the board being worked.

regards Stewie;

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[Mark Gibney]

Yep, I see what it is. Thank you.

[lowell holmes]

I added the rebate to my plow fence and it does clear the shavings quite well. Thanks for the tip.

[Stewie Simpson]

good to hear Lowell.