Dalbergia Nigra anyone??

[Dave Beauchesne]

Ave been gently prodding a 79 year old turner ( he and his wife do the Craft Fair thing with very nice products ) to let me have a crack at some of his wood when he started liquidating things. His wife warned me that he keeps meticulous records, and knows exactly how much he paid for material; don't dare ask for a reduced price. He bought much of his stock years ago, and is only charging what he paid, so that really is fair. Anyway, he started the process, pulled a few pieces including Gonçalo Alves, East Indian Rosewood, etc., but when I saw this chunk, I grabbed it, scratch 'n sniffed it and put it in the sold pile. 1-3/4" thick, 20-1/2" long, 4-1/2" at the narrow end and 6-1/2" at the other. Beautiful orange with nice black stripes. AND, the smell is intoxicating. No plans what to do with it as of yet, but it will be special whatever the project.

[Andrew Hughes]

That's some beautiful looking rose wood Dave nice find.
If you need more for a project i know a wood turner that's selling some very nice boards.
Too rich for my pocket book but someday I would like to make a little Dt box.

Aj

[Dave Beauchesne]

Andrew: I was thinking the same. A small DT box. When I hone my skills further, I will figure something out. We ran a LN 102 over a small raised portion on one side. Devine to plane, and then the odour!

This will be good for me; even if I bought some, ( assuming it is in the US ), I doubt it could cross the border. I was informally offered $200 for this piece: sorry, I am keeping this one.

We can't even bring Cocobolo into Canada anymore.

Dave B

[John Kananis]

Beautiful. All I can say is don't rush it. Every time I force myself to figure out what to do with a piece of lumber, I regret it later for whatever reason. When, however, I allow circumstance to choose my lumber for me, I'm usually happy.

[george wilson]

Not even legal to own in the USA anymore. Be careful.

[Andrew Hughes]

Oh yeah I didn't think about the fact your in Canada.:eek:
I withdraw my hookup offer.:)
Now if could just find something to trade for some of Hal's wood.
Nothing more exciting then working rare illegal wood.
It reminds me of my outlaw days.

Aj

[Dave Beauchesne]

Not even legal to own in the USA anymore. Be careful.

Interesting George- I did not know that. Wonder what the Canadian laws have to say -----

[Allan Speers]

Not even legal to own in the USA anymore. Be careful.

Not legal to OWN? I doubt it, George.

You're the last guy I'd ever argue with on such matters, (instruments, materials, etc) but this seems a little over-the-top. Are folks supposed to turn over all there wood, furniture, instruments, etc that contain this species to some government agency? (And then what, they burn it? Put it in a guarded vault? .... )

It's definitely illegal to export it, (even accidentally) but I've never heard of a law that says you can't OWN any specific material, except maybe plutonium. Certainly not anything listed by CITES. Heck, I don't think it's even illegal to SELL it, within your own border. (Unless that has changed.)

I have three Brazilian guitars, and a rather nice stash of this wood in my garages as well. (Some obtained from a former dumpster-diving Martin Employee, I'm sure you know that story about when they moved the shop across town years ago.) Should I be worried that someone is gonna' come knocking at my door with a warrant?

Just kidding, I think. I assume you just posted quickly and used the wrong word. Yes?

[george wilson]

I suggest that you Google the legality of having Brazilian Rosewood. I'm going to myself to refresh my own memory.

I did Google it,but I'm leaving it up to you guys to unscramble the restrictions on having B.R.!!

[Gary Cunningham]

Gibson Guitars was raided by the FBI on suspicion of having ilegally imported wood.

So, ya never know.....

[John K Jordan]

Nice! That wood is one of my favorites for woodturning.

JKJ

[Allan Speers]

I suggest that you Google the legality of having Brazilian Rosewood. I'm going to myself to refresh my own memory.

I did Google it,but I'm leaving it up to you guys to unscramble the restrictions on having B.R.!!


LOL. Government regulations? No thanks !

[george wilson]

I think Martin had gotten raided,too. Who keeps records on wood they have had around for years?

[Allan Speers]

I think Martin had gotten raided,too. Who keeps records on wood they have had around for years?

If those raids really happened, then maybe the laws really HAVE changed. I'd better find out as I might someday want to sell off my remaining stash.

[John K Jordan]

If those raids really happened, then maybe the laws really HAVE changed. I'd better find out as I might someday want to sell off my remaining stash.

Let me know if you decide, especially if you have any thicker than 4/4.

JKJ

[Malcolm McLeod]

Interesting. There seems to be a number of reputable dealers not only owning it, but also still selling it...???

Maybe I need to light the fireplace and dispose of my contraband!

[Brian Holcombe]

The articles I read on the matter stated that Authorities raided Gibson claiming that the company was breaking laws in India and Madagascar while sourcing wood, but it turned out to be false. They seized Macassar Ebony and Indian rosewood which they ended up returning.

[Matt Lau]

Can I convince you to build a guitar or ukulele out of it?
Brazilian rosewood is a true pleasure to build with, and you could easily make a few 3-piece backs for a guitar or 2 piece for parlor guitar or ukulele.

In my luthier-addled mind, I'd feel that it's a shame to hog off most of this wood to make a mallet or something.

[Dave Beauchesne]

Can I convince you to build a guitar or ukulele out of it?
Brazilian rosewood is a true pleasure to build with, and you could easily make a few 3-piece backs for a guitar or 2 piece for parlor guitar or ukulele.

In my luthier-addled mind, I'd feel that it's a shame to hog off most of this wood to make a mallet or something.

Matt:
A mallet or something? Heavens NO!

I have no plans as of yet, but the checked end - certainly useable for some small, carved drawer pulls ( a la Krenov ) the rest will certainly yield some decent flat stock: trust me, I feel blessed just to own it, and will maximize whatever I decide to do with it.

I may scratch and sniff it enough times, all I end up with is a toothpick - but that would be worth it just for the olafactory delight!

Dave B

[george wilson]

Finished guitars were also seized from Gibson Co. I hope they were not damaged by untrained people(non guitarists) handling them during the government grab.

[Brian Holcombe]

They have a good sense of humor about it, they used the returned wood to create the 'Government' Series.

[Allan Speers]

Finished guitars were also seized from Gibson Co. I hope they were not damaged by untrained people(non guitarists) handling them during the government grab.


Wow .............

[Malcolm McLeod]

They have a good sense of humor about it, they used the returned wood to create the 'Government' Series.

Guitar? Wood? Government? If used in the same sentence, many interesting shapes come swimming into my mind's eye. ...All non-traditional!:eek: