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Bert Kemp
05-08-2016, 2:30 PM
I suppose most people have heard how hot it gets in AZ and heard the term from people that live here " Oh But its a Dry Heat "
I also guess if you never been here you wonder just exactly what that means or how it translates to how hot you are. I'm from NH and I hate the heat, in NH when its 75 out and the humidity is 75% or more your hot and you sweat. Here In AZ I'm not really hot till it gets over 94 , 95 and you don't sweat a whole lot as your sweat drys almost as fast as it come out.
To give you an Idea it a very nice 77 degrees here this morning and I washed a load of heavy bath towels and hung them outside to dry, I came in and threw a load of T-shirts in and they take about 20 min's to wash, I took them out to hang and the towels were completely dry. I know for fact that on a 77 degree day in NH the same load would take 5 or 6 hours to dry out on the line. So thats what we mean by dry heat the dry air just sucks the moisture out of everything.:D

Jim Koepke
05-08-2016, 3:07 PM
So thats what we mean by dry heat the dry air just sucks the moisture out of everything.

Including people, pets and wild animals, so remember to hydrate, put water out for your pets and maybe even some for the birds and other wildlife.

jtk

Stephen Tashiro
05-08-2016, 3:13 PM
Here In AZ I'm not really hot till it gets over 94 , 95 and you don't sweat a whole lot as your sweat drys almost as fast as it come out.

The same is true [outside] in Southern NM. Getting "too hot" is different sort of feeling that back East. At about 95 F, when I begin to feel the heat, I am not sweaty and uncomfortable. Instead, I get very tired and sleepy. I just want to sit down and contemplate the work to be done instead of doing it.

Bert Kemp
05-08-2016, 5:29 PM
Oh you don't have to tell me about hydration, and my swamp cooler keeps all the critters outside happy also.( even the unwanted ones lol aka Javalena) Its over flow spills water all day long. Saw a road runner getting a drink a couple days ago, very cool.


Including people, pets and wild animals, so remember to hydrate, put water out for your pets and maybe even some for the birds and other wildlife.

jtk

Steve Peterson
05-09-2016, 10:46 AM
One thing I notice when I visit my mom in Arizona is that drink coasters are completely unnecessary. No matter how cold your drink is, there is no condensation on the outside of the glass.

Steve

Rick Moyer
05-09-2016, 3:51 PM
Oh you don't have to tell me about hydration, and my swamp cooler keeps all the critters outside happy also.( even the unwanted ones lol aka Javalena) Its over flow spills water all day long. Saw a road runner getting a drink a couple days ago, very cool.

Better chase that roadrunner away, they attract 200# ACME anvils from the sky!

Myk Rian
05-09-2016, 9:16 PM
Better chase that roadrunner away, they attract 200# ACME anvils from the sky!
No, the Coyotes do. I hear those at 6pm and 1am whenever I'm in AZ.

Bert Kemp
05-09-2016, 10:20 PM
You have early Coyotes mine start howling about 2 am right outside my bedroom window they wake me up many night. If I holler out the window they all take off.:eek:


No, the Coyotes do. I hear those at 6pm and 1am whenever I'm in AZ.

Ken Combs
05-10-2016, 8:32 PM
I lived in Glendale AZ for a couple of years in the late 90s. Was really surprised one evening when it was 110 or so. Climbed out of the pool to find myself really chilly and covered with goosebumps. It was so dry that the moisture evaporated quickly enough to do that !

Peter Kelly
05-10-2016, 9:22 PM
I'm from NH and I hate the heat, in NH when its 75 out and the humidity is 75% or more your hot and you sweat and it S***ks.Funny, I grew up spending the summers in the Lakes Region to escape the heat of Philadelphia and NYC. Aside from the Maine coast, there's no place I'd rather be in July or August.

Bert Kemp
05-10-2016, 11:05 PM
It is funny because I go home to NH in the summer when I can to escape the 105 t0 115 temps here. Its hot and humid , but I ride my bike and go to the lake and its better then AZ in July, were looking at 103 this Saturday and I'm going to the AMA mc races gonna be hot for the rider and everyone. YIKES


Funny, I grew up spending the summers in the Lakes Region to escape the heat of Philadelphia and NYC. Aside from the Maine coast, there's no place I'd rather be in July or August.

Erik Loza
05-11-2016, 10:04 AM
At the big IWF show in Atlanta, we spend a week in there, ahead of time, getting the booth and machines set up. To save on costs, the Congress Center does not turn on the A/C til the actual morning of the show. They roll up the bay doors in all the halls and we bring in these big portable fans for some air movement but otherwise, it is about 80F and probably 60% humidity. Huge CNC's and dust collectors running. You are basically sweating all the time. I bring hydration tablets to put in my water bottle. I've never witnessed this but when I worked for the other company, someone told me about a few of the Austrians not being quite ready for the humidity and having to go to the ER for an IV, they got so dehydrated. At the end of the day in Atlanta, you feel like a tube of toothpaste that has been all squeezed out.

AWFS in Vegas does the exact same procedure in regards to the AC and is probably at least 5 degrees warmer in those halls but, curiously, I never really notice that heat becasue it's much drier. I'll take the dry heat any day of ther week.

Erik

Jerome Stanek
05-11-2016, 12:28 PM
[QUOTE=Erik Loza;2563814]At the big IWF show in Atlanta, we spend a week in there, ahead of time, getting the booth and machines set up. To save on costs, the Congress Center does not turn on the A/C til the actual morning of the show. They roll up the bay doors in all the halls and we bring in these big portable fans for some air movement but otherwise, it is about 80F and probably 60% humidity. Huge CNC's and dust collectors running. You are basically sweating all the time. I bring hydration tablets to put in my water bottle. I've never witnessed this but when I worked for the other company, someone told me about a few of the Austrians not being quite ready for the humidity and having to go to the ER for an IV, they got so dehydrated. At the end of the day in Atlanta, you feel like a tube of toothpaste that has been all squeezed out.

AWFS in Vegas does the exact same procedure in regards to the AC and is probably at least 5 degrees warmer in those halls but, curiously, I never really notice that heat becasue it's much drier. I'll take the dry heat any day of ther week.

Erik[/QUOTEs
I know what you mean I used to do shows there Louisville and Vegas in the summer and Chicago in the winter with no heat.

Erik Loza
05-11-2016, 12:32 PM
Yesterday here in Austin, it was about 90F and probably 70% humidity. Air so thick, it was hazy. Thought about doing some gardening but just said screw it and stayed inside, in the AC. I'm such a lightweight.

Erik

Bert Kemp
05-11-2016, 1:45 PM
Erik the dry heat will dehydrate you much quicker then humid heat, you just don't notice it till you pass out, which I see all the time. As you know I ride with the PGR , we stand flag lines for hours sometime in 90 to 115 heat and people drop like flys. Mostly the the people attending the services as they don't hydrate properly. You don't sweat in the dry heat it evaporates so fast your not aware.


At the big IWF show in Atlanta, we spend a week in there, ahead of time, getting the booth and machines set up. To save on costs, the Congress Center does not turn on the A/C til the actual morning of the show. They roll up the bay doors in all the halls and we bring in these big portable fans for some air movement but otherwise, it is about 80F and probably 60% humidity. Huge CNC's and dust collectors running. You are basically sweating all the time. I bring hydration tablets to put in my water bottle. I've never witnessed this but when I worked for the other company, someone told me about a few of the Austrians not being quite ready for the humidity and having to go to the ER for an IV, they got so dehydrated. At the end of the day in Atlanta, you feel like a tube of toothpaste that has been all squeezed out.

AWFS in Vegas does the exact same procedure in regards to the AC and is probably at least 5 degrees warmer in those halls but, curiously, I never really notice that heat becasue it's much drier. I'll take the dry heat any day of ther week.

Erik

Bill McNiel
05-11-2016, 1:57 PM
My daughter and grandkids live in Phoenix and I must say it is truly HOT there in the summertime. Not as uncomfortable as the humid East Coast or Chicago but it is HOT!

Bert Kemp
05-11-2016, 2:58 PM
And its just getting warmed up:D337307

Peter Kelly
05-11-2016, 4:29 PM
And its just getting warmed up:D337307Where abouts in Campton? My parents have a place just south of there in Holderness.

Bert Kemp
05-11-2016, 6:44 PM
Camptons just north of Plymouth ,its just were I get the weather from its centrally located, I use to live in Groton which is a little SW of Plymouth over near Newfound Lake. I have family all over NH . I'm in Holderness quite often as my friend launches his boat there at the town launch.


Where abouts in Campton? My parents have a place just south of there in Holderness.

Brett Luna
05-11-2016, 7:43 PM
It may be a dry heat but its heat all the same and you can keep it! I'm originally from Mississippi and lived all over the South but I'm going on 18th year of living in Alaska, so my blood has gotten pretty thick. Brett starts breaking a sweat at about 74°F if he's just sittin' around. I'm glad I don't live in the Fairbanks area because their summers routinely get into the 90s.

I've been to a couple of those hot, dry western states, though. When I was in the USAF, I went out to Las Vegas a few times for the Red Flag exercises at Nellis AFB. One time, I had to change a part over the wing of an F-4E so I sat up there for about an hour or so, removing about a hundred screws from the panel, replacing the part, then reinstalling about a hundred screws. It was hot but it was a dry heat. When I got back to my room and shucked my pants the side of my leg that I'd been sitting one looked like it had a heckuva sunburn and felt like it, too.

I've been to Phoenix, too but not in the high summer. I was in town a few years back on business in April. It was a pleasant 60-something degrees in the evenings and I availed myself of the open air bar next to the hotel. I ran into a couple of fellows from Michigan and we were all sporting short sleeve shirts shook our heads at the cranked-up outdoor space heaters and one young lady whoe showed up in a Navy-style pea jacket and a big fluffy scarf.

Stan Calow
05-11-2016, 9:36 PM
I heard the city manager of Phoenix say that they were pretty close to having days of 24 hours >100 degrees F. Heat island effect. That was about 10 years ago, so I'm guessing its come true by now.

Bert Kemp
05-12-2016, 2:15 AM
Late june thru Sept it doesn't cool down all that much at night. The ground and building get so hot in the daytime it just stays hot. I know in NH we bury our water lines so you can have cold water in the summer but they don't and you only have hot or warm water in the cold side during the summer :eek:


I heard the city manager of Phoenix say that they were pretty close to having days of 24 hours >100 degrees F. Heat island effect. That was about 10 years ago, so I'm guessing its come true by now.

Erik Loza
05-12-2016, 9:49 AM
Erik the dry heat will dehydrate you much quicker then humid heat, you just don't notice it till you pass out, which I see all the time. As you know I ride with the PGR , we stand flag lines for hours sometime in 90 to 115 heat and people drop like flys. Mostly the the people attending the services as they don't hydrate properly. You don't sweat in the dry heat it evaporates so fast your not aware.

That makes sense, Bert. One thing I found is that for those of us who sweat a lot (like I do), I have to be getting electroytes on board in addition to just H2O. I've actually over-hydrated to the point of terrible cramps because it was just water and I was diluting out what remaining sodium and potassium I had in my system. Peeing clear but still cramping like crazy. I use a combination of fizzy electrolyte tabs and those little cans of V8 Juice. That made a huge difference for me.

Erik

Peter Kelly
05-12-2016, 5:53 PM
I'm in Holderness quite often as my friend launches his boat there at the town launch. The house is on the peninsula just past the launch. View from the front yard: