marking walnut

[Curtis Niedermier]

I can't see my pencil lines on walnut, and sometimes I can't see the dang knife lines. What should I be using instead of a pencil and to highlight my knife line? Chalk?

[Andrew Hughes]

Hi Curtis,I have the same problem with walnut.And I tried chalk but I didn't like it the chalk went too far down in the pores it just created a whole new issue.I do remember others here on the creek saying they didn't have a problem removing the chalk.And that's sounds about right for my luck.
So I just mark a bit heavy and spend the time adjusting my light.
Good luck.

[Derek Cohen]

Curtis ....

Blue tape.

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/MovingForward_html_m639890da.jpg


http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/HalfBlindDovetailswithBlueTape_html_680b39b.jpg


http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/HalfBlindDovetailswithBlueTape_html_m4f882f92.jpg


Regards from Perth

Derek

[ken hatch]

Red ball point pen will sometimes work.

ken

[Andrew Pitonyak]

I am a fan of the blue tape

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?26732-0-5mm-white-or-yellow-lead-refills-for-mech-pencils

[David Eisenhauer]

I have seen drafting-type pencils with a white looking lead (don't know what it is but it is in the place where the lead lives in a pencil) in the hobby stores.

[Malcolm Schweizer]

Pica pencils with white lead work well.
http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=71121&cat=1,42935,42936,43509,71121

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[Bill McNiel]

I just built a Breakfront, primarily Walnut. Blue tape was the answer.

[Jim Koepke]

Blue tape, white pencils, who could ask for anything more?

jtk

[Neil Gaskin]

I've been doing a lot with walnut lately. I've been using white artist colored pencils. Not the crayola type. I purchased them at a hobby store. Can't recall the brand off hand. Regular sharpening is required as they are soft.

[Lee Schierer]

Hi Curtis,I have the same problem with walnut.And I tried chalk but I didn't like it the chalk went too far down in the pores it just created a whole new issue.

I find that any chalk that gets down in the grain disappears when the finish is applied.

[Prashun Patel]

+100 on what Derek shows. Blue tape has changed my accuracy on all woods - especially walnut.

[Jim Tobias]

I like this. Not as wide a mark as chalk and comes off easily. You can find at fabric stores(Jo Annes).

http://smile.amazon.com/Bohin-91473-Extra-Fine-Chalk-Pencil/dp/B004M5BGD4?ie=UTF8&keywords=bohn%20white%20lead&qid=1461259886&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

Jim

[Andrew Hughes]

Thanks for the tip Jim, that looks like the ticket for my style.My wife Shops at Jo Annes fabric.
If that doesn't work I'll give the tape trick another try.

[James Pallas]

I use prismacolor white pencils. I have tried many including drafting leads. None seem to keep a sharp point for long. Marking gauge or a knife is better if you have good light. I really haven't tried blue tape since Derek started suggesting it a few years ago. It seems to have caught on very well now. I noticed that one of the FWW editors wrote about it recently. May have to try it.
Jim

[lowell holmes]

I use prismacolor white pencils. I have tried many including drafting leads. None seem to keep a sharp point for long. Marking gauge or a knife is better if you have good light. ------------
Jim
I agree with James.

[Prashun Patel]

White chalk - or black sharpie - may be fine if you are labeling parts for orientation or rough milling.

But if you are looking to mark for precise cutting, here's why the blue tape is a boon: Once severed on the cut line, it provides the smallest of shoulders against which a chisel or saw will register. For myself, (Ham-hands of the world unite!) this allows me to saw right up to the line, and keeps me perfectly vertical. It works so well for me, it feels like cheating.

[Dave Anderson NH]

I use white chalk. I'll agree that the stick of chalk are imprecise. I use powdered white chalk which allows it to get into the incised line from the marking knife. Lee is correct, it turns transparent when you apply the finish and presents absolutely no problem. I've used this for over 15 years since a friend taught me the trick.

[glenn bradley]

I use prismacolor white pencils. I have tried many including drafting leads. None seem to keep a sharp point for long. Marking gauge or a knife is better if you have good light. I really haven't tried blue tape since Derek started suggesting it a few years ago. It seems to have caught on very well now. I noticed that one of the FWW editors wrote about it recently. May have to try it.
Jim


I agree with James.


I buy Prismacolor white (http://www.amazon.com/Prismacolor-SAN3365-Art-Pencils/dp/B003WM07D8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00) by the box. I can't believe the price in that link though; I paid about 80 cents a pencil and a dozen will last me a few years. For joinery layout, the blue tape is great.

[Lenore Epstein]

Prismacolor Verithin pencils are much harder and hold a point better than the Premiers http://www.dickblick.com/items/20509-1001 Dick Blick stores sell them open stock for about $1.30 apiece or 12 for $10.50 and charges $5 for shipping if you buy online.

The best deal I found online is a box of 12 for $13 (including shipping) on eBay:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/252188437813.

[Jeff Ranck]

This: http://www.amazon.com/Koh-I-Noor-Gioconda-White-Drawing-Chalk/dp/B002WMZS7O/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1461279246&sr=8-4&keywords=koh-i-noor+white+lead

Like the larger lead holders. Yes, you have to sharpen often, but it works great particularly for rough stuff. Blue tape and a marking gauge for the fine work.

[Brian Holcombe]

Best change I made in this dept. was installing a 100w articulating lamp in my shop. I can see a knife mark on gaboon ebony under that lamp.

[Terry O'Donnell]

I use a Gelly Roll pen (Japanese I think) with white ink - available in most stationary/art stores (at least around here). The ink seems to sit on the surface and is easy to scrape off to make corrections.

[John Kananis]

I used to use a hand-sharpened white grease pencil (the type you peel away to reveal more colorant) but the prismacolor pencils just can't be beat - I happened upon them when my wife took up coloring. Do not go with the Crayola brand - they're a joke.

[Steve Voigt]

Best change I made in this dept. was installing a 100w articulating lamp in my shop. I can see a knife mark on gaboon ebony under that lamp.


Yeah, exactly. A strong light you can move solves most of these problems. I don't work with dark woods much, but I was working some cocobolo today, and a regular pencil was fine with the light in the right place.

[Randy Karst]

Just an aside Lee, but I really like your avatar!

[Robert Engel]

I like this. Not as wide a mark as chalk and comes off easily. You can find at fabric stores(Jo Annes).

http://smile.amazon.com/Bohin-91473-Extra-Fine-Chalk-Pencil/dp/B004M5BGD4?ie=UTF8&keywords=bohn%20white%20lead&qid=1461259886&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

JimThis works well for me. Lead breaks easily, tho.

[bridger berdel]

I stopped using chalk for any surface even near finish dimension after having it show up under the finish of a well sanded surface. obviously your mileage will vary. IIRC, the finish in that case was a waterborne acrylic poly, which may have had something to do with it.