plane storage

[timothy mckee]

Im sure this topic has been visited many times, but I'll ask again....Im redoing my shop and am trying to decide how to store my planes....upright or at a 60 degree angle as Christian Becksvoort did in his redesigned toolbox. Im tight for room so Im trying to keep things close to the wall. My only concern is does upright storage cause any issues with warpage.Thanks for any help

[Roy Wall]

I wouldn't think upright storage would cause warpage. I believe a lot of planes are stored in the 60-75* range.

[Jules Dominguez]

Warpage of what?

[Dan Moening]

My shop often exceeds 100° in mid-summer and I don't have a problem with plane warpage.
:D

Seriously though, I have seen pictures of the wall in Garrett Hack's shop. His planes are stored vertically on the wall. If Mr. Hack is storing his planes this way ... I wouldn't hesitate to do so.

The plane till I'm building has 2 hinged trays to store planes that exceed 60°, but they will be fully supported along their soles at this angle. If that makes any difference I don't know.

[Philip Edwards]

Tim

There is a third option-take a look....
http://www.philsville.co.uk/images/plane%20cabinet/finished%20cabinet3.jpg
You can get a lot of planes in a cabinet like this and they are very well supported and secure. Unfortunately this picture is out of date as my hand plane, um, pool, has grown.....:D
There is a link to making the cabinet here....
http://www.philsville.co.uk/planecabinet.htm
Hope this helps
Phil

[Charles Stanford]

A shelf underneath your bench which runs the length of your bench is a great place to store your planes. I prefer storing planes sitting in their normal orientation. I simply put down some rubber router mats and lay them down with cutters exposed.

[Mike Wenzloff]

Hi Timothy, My original plane till held most of my planes upright. Some, though, were angled and years of having them at an angle didn't hurt them--as far as I know. But I still use them.

Charles mentions under bench storage, but one problem about under bench storage of oft used tools is getting to them when something, like a board held in the vice and down the apron for say edge work, is in the way.

This is exacerbated by having one's storage actually in drawers--which mine are.

Top drawer--usually block by some activity
http://wenzloffandsons.com/temp/tools/thumbs/110_1038.jpg (http://wenzloffandsons.com/temp/tools/slides/110_1038.jpg)

Middle drawer--often blocked.
http://wenzloffandsons.com/temp/tools/thumbs/110_1040.jpg (http://wenzloffandsons.com/temp/tools/slide/110_1040.jpg)

I've long outgrown my tool cabinet. I desperately need a saw till again. So, I've more or less decided to build a whole new tool cabinet that will incorporate a saw till and all three drawers of planes, as well as the shelf o' planes and an upper Borg cabinet. Along with all the other hand tools stored in my old plane till/hand tool cabinet.

What it will be is still not [fully] decided. Though Alf has made the decision for me that it will be a freestanding full cabinet <G>. And my bent is early 20th century Scandinavian Modern. So it may be a flop, it may work. We'll see down the road.

All I know is that Dan's, Timothy's and the others here and on a couple other forums recent activity of plane and saw tills has maybe prompted me to finally do something about the problem instead of (unsuccessfully) ignoring it.

Mike

[Mike Wenzloff]

Hi Philly, nice to see you here...Mike

[Derek Cohen]

Hi Philly, Hi Mike ....

Timothy

Here is a old picture of my plane storage... ala Becksvoort (just more ultilitarian and not as pretty). My plane numbers have literally doubled since this picture was taken (about two or three years ago). Anyway, the angle for the holders is about 75 degrees. It is hinged and I can store items to the rear. The arrangement has served me well in the past. The soft pine bases are gentle on blades, and all the timber serves to absorb moisture and keep the metal rust-free.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Roy Wall]

Hi Philly, Hi Mike ....

Timothy

Here is a old picture of my plane storage... ala Becksvoort (just more ultilitarian and not as pretty). My plane numbers have literally doubled since this picture was taken (about two or three years ago). Anyway, the angle for the holders is about 75 degrees. It is hinged and I can store items to the rear. The arrangement has served me well in the past. The soft pine bases are gentle on blades, and all the timber serves to absorb moisture and keep the metal rust-free.

Regards from Perth

Derek

derek,

a quick scan reveals about 24 planes in this phots...........a nice # to double!!

[Derek Cohen]

Roy

I kid you not. Not only have I a few infill planes (smoothers and shoulder), there have been a #044 to go with the #043, and a #46 to go with the #45. And a few scrub planes (Stanley and LV). What you cannot see is a matched half set of Hollows and Rounds, a row of molding planes, three router planes, the list go on. Oh, and several LV planes, one or two I have bought and others that were supplied by LV for feedback and assessment. I can honestly say that I use every one.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Here is a little tool porn:

[Philip Edwards]

Ah Derek...

Don't feel so bad now about my, uh, plane problem!:D
Looking forward to the LA Jointer...
Philly

[timothy mckee]

Thank you all very much for your input...the pictures and links have been very helpful. The side storage looks like the way to go for me, and I have some extra cherry to do it right. I will definitely make it large enough to hold some of the future additions I have my eye on..Thanks Again!

[Dan Moening]

I will definitely make it large enough to hold all of the future additions and then some...

:D

[Derek Cohen]

I was cleaning up today, in preparation for the next project (a hall table), and it looked so clean and neat (rarely so!), so I took a couple of pictures.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Jasper Homminga]

Derek,

Are those Nooitgedacht chisels?
If so then they are a long way from home, they must be misserable. Why not send them home. :D
I'll take good care of them.

greetings from the Netherlands
Jasper

[Derek Cohen]

Jasper

They are indeed Nooitgedacht chisels. I bought them several years ago and keep them for general purpose work. But they must be the most under rated chisels around. They get really sharp and hold an edge well. The handles are a replica of my Bergs. They say "made in Netherlands", but the steel is Swedish. I always wondered if there might be a connection with Berg. I'd love to know more about them. What do you know?

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Jasper Homminga]

What do you know?
Not as much as I should, but this is what I do know.
Jan Nooitgedagt & zonen (sons) was a tool (and iceskate) maker in IJlst (the Netherlands). I think they were taken over by Irwin (and/or Record?). You say they are replica's of Bergs? Half my chisels are Nooitgedagt and the rest is Scandia, which look just like the Nooitgedagts. I guess there's a link in there as well. I really should get that book on dutchplanemakers, there should be more info in there.

Jasper

[Derek Cohen]

Thanks Jasper. Are Nooitgedacht still sold? For the past several years they were only available (as far as I know) on eBay - someone must have been selling off old stock. I think I paid $30 for a set of 8 chisels!! But I have not seen them on sale for a few years.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Andrew Ault]

I've got a set of Nooitgedacht chisels from the auction site as well. They take a good edge and are tough. I bought them expecting they would be a good second set, but they're my go to chisels now. A pretty lucky find!

[Dan Clermont in Burnaby]

Hi Timothy,

I have my planes stored in a plane cabinet vertically similar to Garrett Hack.

To pull a plane I lift then pull. I like it cause the blade is not in contact and the cabinet takes less space then storing planes on an angle.

Take Care
Dan Clermont