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Brian Kent
10-03-2015, 2:59 PM
Sometimes the wood does all of the work for you.

This is 1 coat of WTF followed by several coats of General Finishes Water-based topcoat.

Tony De Masi
10-03-2015, 3:36 PM
Very nice looking piece Brian. But what is the point of putting the GF water based stuff on top of the WTF, which is a water based top coat product?

Not meant as a wise guy comment, just want to understand the finish technique.

John Keeton
10-03-2015, 3:45 PM
That kind of wood always cries out to me - "Dye me, dye me!"

Brian Kent
10-03-2015, 4:00 PM
Tony, I barely have any WTF left and can't find any replacement, except in 8 oz squirt bottles. I have a whole lot of pieces to make for an order. The water-based topcoat is a horrible base coat so this is a temporary compromise.

John, I ALWAYS learn from your comments. What kind of dye would you use? I have never used dyes except once food coloring as a joke and stains a long time ago.

John Keeton
10-03-2015, 4:44 PM
I mostly use Transtint, which can be diluted in either ETOH or water. But, I also use Procion MX dyes by Jacquard, which are water soluble and cellulose reactive. The Procion are a bit tricky to use, as what you see isn't what you get. For instance, the chocolate brown is purple in liquid form. But, the colors are described accurately, keeping in mind that the underlying tone of the wood (amber/yellow with maple) will affect the color - even with the Transtint. If you add a blue dye to the maple you show, you will likely get an underlying green tint. If the maple is very white, then it is easier to get a true blue.

For curly maple, I usually will start with a very diluted black wash, which will highlight the stripe/curl and provide a deep contrast when the piece is dyed a color. Then, apply the color you are after. Again, keep in mind that all black dyes have a blue effect, so often a red over a black wash will produce a deeper red - leaning slightly toward a scarlet.

Best to always have a scrap to play with if you want a predetermined result. But, then again, sometimes it is fun just to see what you get!! I think there are several dyed pieces shown on my website, as I recall, but email me if you want some images.

I love curly maple!

Steve Schlumpf
10-03-2015, 5:01 PM
I agree with John - some color would really make curl like this pop! Great looking plate - what are the dimensions?

Brian Kent
10-03-2015, 5:07 PM
Thank you, John. Whether it shows it or not, these blanks are exceptionally white to start with. My supplier sold them for under $4/bf which is really good around here for very curly maple. I have made 4 plates so far and have 2 more blanks to go, so it looks like it is time to play :)

Steve, this is 4/4 stock that comes almost shiny smooth from the supplier. So I make the recess with a forstner and then mount it and never turn it around to the other side. It is 11-1/2 " across.

mike ash
10-03-2015, 6:36 PM
Nice job Brian. Great wood selection and great job on the shape of the platter!

Randy Red Bemont
10-03-2015, 7:29 PM
OK I've got to ask. What is WTF? It's probably so obvious that I can't come up with it. Your plate is beautiful.

Red

Bob Bergstrom
10-03-2015, 8:59 PM
Beautiful wood and well turned. First I finish sand the piece. I dye them black a d the sand 90% of the black off. Then a red or blue over that. The black really adds shadows and dept. a light scrubbing with steel wool will provide highlights and smooth any raise grain. As John state yellow will turn green. There is extra sanding , but well worth it.

Ben Pierce
10-03-2015, 9:05 PM
Ditto Red's question. What is WTF, other than "what the #$@%?" Beautiful piece.

Tim Boger
10-03-2015, 9:20 PM
Wood Turners Finish

http://www.amazon.com/General-Finishes-Wood-Turners-Finish/dp/B005MXBOFA

Brian Kent
10-03-2015, 10:16 PM
Tim got the prize. General Finishes "Wood Turners Finish". I wish someone would sell quarts.

robert baccus
10-03-2015, 11:01 PM
There are only a limited number of finishing materials but many mixes. What is in WTF--real info.

Brian Kent
10-03-2015, 11:15 PM
It is an oil and water hybrid, according to the website.

Randy Red Bemont
10-04-2015, 1:26 PM
Wood Turners Finish

http://www.amazon.com/General-Finishes-Wood-Turners-Finish/dp/B005MXBOFA

A big thank you to Tim. I never would have guessed it.

Red

Randy Red Bemont
10-04-2015, 7:41 PM
I just looked into this WTF and sounds pretty good. I may have to pick up a can and give it a try. I'm looking for some kind of an easy(somewhat) go to finish for my small turnings like potpourri bowls, pedestal bowls and so forth.

Red

Brian Kent
10-04-2015, 8:27 PM
Very easy and quick.

And today I had 2 bottles of Transtint and 2 of Transfast in my hand at Rockler's and thought, "Since I don't know whether powder and liquid are equivalent, I didn't feel like spending $44 until I knew." So powder or liquid?

John Keeton
10-04-2015, 8:46 PM
http://homesteadfinishingproducts.com/resources/dye-faq/

Thomas Canfield
10-04-2015, 10:26 PM
Steve, this is 4/4 stock that comes almost shiny smooth from the supplier. So I make the recess with a forstner and then mount it and never turn it around to the other side. It is 11-1/2 " across.

Brian, did you grind off the center point on your Forstner bit? Mine have a long point and extend at least 1/8" past the wing cutters which also leave a deeper grove. A separate question to all the dye comments.

Mikey Green
10-05-2015, 11:29 AM
This WTF is new to me, too. Do you guys spray this on, as suggested in the Amazon site, or is it possible to wipe on? I don't have a HVLP set-up, so would it be futile for me to go down this path without HVLP?

Brian Kent
10-05-2015, 12:37 PM
I have no spray set up and have only wiped it on. I have no reason to try another system. I fine sand (320 or 400 or 600) every 3 coats.