Any saw makers in Philadelphia besides Disston?

[robert dankert]

I posted this on the crosscut sawyer forum a little more than a month ago. Lots of looks, but no replies.

Anyone have any info, leads, guesses, etc. on this saw plate?


It's 36 in. long. The blue tape is centered under what's left of the etch.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LR8q6Z-irNHbCqbxg0hMzQ2Ztjt6gd7e4OTLtJZR0g=w1019-h764-no



Best pic I could get of the etch.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qIf-46hsKALdGPdYs4SrKjzC-qXDbCiyWhmrJ2uY_Q=w1019-h764-no


This is what I can make out of the etch:


SAW WO KS
PHILADEL IA
ARRAN


I am guessing:


"something" SAW WORKS
PHILADELPHIA
"something" WARRANTED


Some of the "something" preceding SAW WORKS is there, but not enough for me to recognize. It's not Disston & Sons. I tried to search for: philadelphia "saw works" excluding disston and didn't really find anything.


Thanks for looking. :)

[Jim Koepke]

There are two other makers listed in saws for sale at:

http://www.thebestthings.com/saws.htm

Bound to be more.

jtk

[robert dankert]

There are two other makers listed in saws for sale at:

http://www.thebestthings.com/saws.htm

Bound to be more.

jtk

When I looked at the page I found three with Philadelphia. But none with "saw works". ​Thanks for the link, I have it saved.

[Doug McKay]

It is a second line Disston saw, it's Disston's "Keystone Saw Works" branding.

[robert dankert]

It is a second line Disston saw, it's Disston's "Keystone Saw Works" branding.

Thank you for the reply. I checked into this. "Keystone Saw Works" was on some etchings, but as far as I could find out these were not second line. Here is an example:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uXt1YZP3BO-u1qhntA2altak70eszcEigAwkJ_FIr_bOv6vTb7k54MGAP14aG LqBe1gvNutxfqsQfWbYcDYNAJeEaq4XV0QbFZyRe9Wsa9AZBav 1q-zEs2VYYzmZTvlQHd0fGpVQHtg2OqaRt1mwDdQu5STjKhvODMoE KDI_N4QrAydApmTd8Qw7f7u9ocqmy4XX_zmgb3QvxT8dORm7Ln pBymQ6LTco3jHIR11CQnUqsnOC4p_aeANZh3HvIXEGxmGPibJ4 v0K30YdRoZITekEqhV9KzIr6Pz0qmvpz8ESwcbJDcHo1eRlGxB kYSA1SNHF-tGgJwSZiliAFZd1aVVTKKOMz8EPJZz4huGbzEUrhelUp1xRfN1 HHRYFeoJ0I6ieLOCbLjlkuy0KkHxcJP5WxChQUnWrt94BYgrnw-O2ym7xeoMXBNZC1IU8Z-u38U5bbTOu82O6TGRpiryFC1sV0kV1Cq1P4Ym7WC8DaxH67iKb Iewf7cjDUdqEsE4E7L9TCGQa8dNqUKUqUKsuDP3S_5rMMqlI8D KLGbxdTugw=w962-h721-no

"KEYSTONE" I believe was the second line brand:
http://www.vintagesaws.com/library/ftj/fall01/flyer.jpg

From http://www.vintagesaws.com/cgi-bin/frameset.cgi?left=main&right=/library/library.html

[Doug McKay]

From the 1918 Disston catalog your saw is a #198 Keystone Plain tooth, one man crosscut saw. The 5 foot long version sold for $3.50. I use for reference " The Handsaw Catalog Collection" book by Astragal press, copyright 1994.

[robert dankert]

From the 1918 Disston catalog your saw is a #198 Keystone Plain tooth, one man crosscut saw. The 5 foot long version sold for $3.50. I use for reference " The Handsaw Catalog Collection" book by Astragal press, copyright 1994.

Appreciate your input.

I did some more looking and can add to my second post. Apparently Disston in the late 1800's introduced the "Keystone Saw Mfg. Co." brand which did not include the Disston name.

"The Keystone Line of saws was in the Disston catalog for decades and was meant to attract what could be called "low-end" buyers. . . ."
http://www.disstonianinstitute.com/keyintro.html

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a Keystone 198 online (I'm too cheap to buy the book). I did find a Keystone Saw Mfg. Co. champion tooth crosscut with this etch:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nJRAbflWRFy4mfPgdJdPXCWFxSdKPmqubgpmk4_tGuybOvlOsb _CKgXc0hB8ysWb0ewh8gWlCPIbdKnzQuYKgrpPgZpYyr8uccY6 KrU9sJpzhiMPc6LDI2FGdEnFn0UsHryUuydNdXQ5ZxwQQlgQoP dQm5x1wUUSHwDALnn8eKKAqllvcaRcQSxzYgDaZFVqeHV3hZ6x hDQ4ad7giMwPkegDafdSBLdxG7ClbpZ-RqQqkKYU0jUq6vvRoq7SHSwu9td7xUBC5gZdRiR99DpFlpE9H5 Pe_VrfUlQa_4N8Cy81hfkBenjw2-VakB25PiMlhi4TQGq4m7hcIz56lTOdXsnFwNq2_Nyy6MLVgo-rZJCsA1JsPO9DPOoHadpGJZvZ8Dq3uJAXclb4q6FifjWN9LIUr SvROiov5idcS0Soq-nGHSurJfb7MJKTg5OE61hZNykveA5em-HzzRZK0rk--Pm1vXg9RkO-Xmho0SNNmVLSpHqmS8XDqkXgIhlvrMRoeXsZT2SiROVCQ_QuzE FXVbsUy8o4ejhCPg-Vy1cpPZw=w800-h600-no

Thanks