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dennis thompson
08-21-2015, 8:06 PM
My grandson,who is only 21, is losing his hair very quickly. As you might imagine he is very upset and self conscious about it. He and I have been discussing hair transplants but neither of us know anything about it. Well, I do know one thing, they are very expensive and not covered by insurance. Does anyone know anything about hair transplants?
thanks

Jim Koepke
08-21-2015, 8:19 PM
Over 40 years ago, when my hair was thinning, I decided a hat looks better and cost a lot less than any of the other remedies for going bald.

jtk

Wade Lippman
08-21-2015, 9:09 PM
I sure don't, but first thing I would check is to see if whatever is causing his hair loss will affect the transplanted hair.

John M Wilson
08-21-2015, 9:23 PM
I also lost my hair at a fairly young age, being quite bald by age 25. (This was in the early 80's, and "hair" was important then). I was a young engineer, and I had a meeting with a very successful, young-ish, owner of a supplier to our company. He was in his early 30's, and much balder than me, so I could picture myself becoming like him. He had his remaining hair cut quite short (another anomaly in the 80's) and had no comb-over, hat, or any other device to hide his pate. He was good looking and confident, and it changed my perspective completely.

I realized that this guy was good looking, and had no hair. Clearly, to me, these things had become "de-coupled". After that, I began to notice that the only bald guys that drew my attention had comb-overs, visible hair transplants, or wore ball caps with a business suit. The only ones I noticed were the ones who were trying to hide it from me. All of the other "regular" bald guys were just guys with less hair. If it didn't matter to them, it didn't matter to me.

Now days, with the shorter hair styles, (or even shaved heads), I cannot fathom why anyone would spend vast sums of money to replace something that no one else cares about. I have a fringe above my ears, which I keep close trimmed, and that's my hair style. Trust me, no one cares.

I would encourage your grandson to realize he has so much more to offer the world than functioning hair follicles. All of his real friends, trustworthy business associates, and potential spouses that are worthy of the title are not concerned in the least with his hair. It's not something you can do for him, but do pass along from one who knows that the day he loses his self consciousness about this will be a special day. When he celebrates his freedom from worrying about what people who don't matter think, he has become a man.

My $.02

Frederick Skelly
08-21-2015, 9:47 PM
Might be worth visiting the family doctor, just for a checkup. People do go bald that young, but it couldn't hurt to just make sure everything's normal before going for a hair transplant.

Other thoughts..... Are you his maternal grandfather? I've always heard the trait of baldness comes down that way. (Never tried to verify that.) Did you go bald at a really young age too?

Fred

Phil Thien
08-21-2015, 10:30 PM
One friend was losing hair in his teens and early 20's and finally shaved his head. Looked great.

Another friend got plugs (spent a fortune) and they didn't do enough and it looked awful. Had to spend a boatload more to get more plugs. Still doesn't look great.

Jim Koepke
08-22-2015, 1:13 AM
It's not something you can do for him, but do pass along from one who knows that the day he loses his self consciousness about this will be a special day. When he celebrates his freedom from worrying about what people who don't matter think, he has become a man.

My $.02

John,

Your words are certainly of a much greater value than just:

320005

jtk

Alan Hick
08-22-2015, 1:18 AM
My grandson,who is only 21, is losing his hair very quickly. As you might imagine he is very upset and self conscious about it. He and I have been discussing hair transplants but neither of us know anything about it. Well, I do know one thing, they are very expensive and not covered by insurance. Does anyone know anything about hair transplants?
thanks

A few things.

First, if you're going to go down this road, it'll be costly, as you know. But there are right ways to do it and wrong ways. This isn't life threatening, so take your time and do plenty of research.

This research may bring up out of country options--such as Turkey or India. When you consider that the full monty, so to speak, may run 20k here in the USA, and you may be able to get the same thing in India for 3k, it's worth looking into. I'm not encouraging or discouraging "travel hair transplants"; I'm just saying do your homework.

Next, are the various procedures/methods:
FUE (follicular unit extraction)--which can be done 1.manually
2. semi-manually with a device like the Alphagraft
3. Automatically with the Artas Robot
4. Semi-Automatically with the Neograft machine
FUT or Strip grafting
DHI
and perhaps some others.

There are well-entrenched camps who believe the method they use is superior to the other methods. But, what it comes down to, just as in woodworking, is the skill and attention to detail possessed by the surgeon, even if he/she is using a more-or-less automatic machine.

Then there's the age consideration. Your grandson is 21 and losing his hair. Well, the problem is that this is likely to continue for some amount of time. If you "fix" it now, but the hair loss continues, you'll end up looking like a French Poodle after a few years, and will likely need additional surgery.

In the meantime, medications should be considered. Rogaine and Propecia are the 2 mainstays currently used to stop or at least slow down the hair loss process.

What this works out to is a whole lot of messing around, and potentially a whole lot of cash. But transplantation technique has vastly improved since back in the day when hair was harvested and planted like rows of corn. The results can be quite good. But...
Research
Research
Research
and then
Research some more

Your grandson has a lot to think about.

paul cottingham
08-22-2015, 1:23 AM
Honestly, my dad was pretty bald by about 25. He was such a cute little old bugger than young women positively swooned over him, even tho' he was married and devoted to my mom.
i seriously think the best thing this young fellow can do, is learn to embrace it. Shaved heads are all the rage right now as well.

Brian Ashton
08-22-2015, 1:24 AM
John,

Your words are certainly of a much greater value than just:

320005

jtk

Definitely. When he gets a bit older and more mature he'll find it's not bad at all. There's lots of shaved heads out there now, to the point no one even notices anymore and in fact they look good. What looks weird is people that try to fight nature. Face lifts, nose jobs, tanning, boob jobs, cheek implants, hair transplants all have the look of being off from a distance, and when you get close enough it becomes clear whats off about it.

Phil Thien
08-22-2015, 10:00 AM
Honestly, my dad was pretty bald by about 25. He was such a cute little old bugger than young women positively swooned over him, even tho' he was married and devoted to my mom.
i seriously think the best thing this young fellow can do, is learn to embrace it. Shaved heads are all the rage right now as well.

Some of the most attractive women (I'm talking 10's) I've seen have been hanging on the arms of bald men.

Too many people look at this baldness thing as some sort of deficit which can be overcome by other qualities.

And I don't think that is the case at all.

There are absolutely women that prefer that look, and guys don't give a crap.

What I'm saying is, there is no real downside (besides having to be careful in the sun), and real possible upside.

Alan Hick
08-22-2015, 12:58 PM
Problematically, some of the attitudes espoused have been arrived at via the blessing of age. My college room mate, many years ago, was losing his hair. Just as pretty much all the men in his family had for several generations. He was prepared for it and really didn't have an issue. But the OP states that this young man is "very upset" and "self conscious". If you're a person with self confidence, you handle stuff. If you lack self confidence, someone telling you to "buck up, look on the bright side, and stop being a nancy" may not work. Personally, I'm not planning on doing anything about my thinning/receding hair. But I'm not going to tell someone else that they should, or they shouldn't, based on my perspective of how the world works. I'm not them, and they're not me. It would be nice if everyone had such self acceptance and self confidence that cosmetic surgery became a practice only involved in reconstruction after an accident or disease. But it's not. It's almost ALL elective.
Why, after all these years and so much enlightenment and liberation, do so many women still get breast implants? Or have their teeth whitened? Or get weaves to have fuller hair? Or undergo liposuction? Or lip injection? Or botulinum injection? etc. The list is long. Vanity sells. And perception is reality in the eyes of many. And telling them it's not doesn't work very well.

dennis thompson
08-22-2015, 3:47 PM
Problematically, some of the attitudes espoused have been arrived at via the blessing of age. My college room mate, many years ago, was losing his hair. Just as pretty much all the men in his family had for several generations. He was prepared for it and really didn't have an issue. But the OP states that this young man is "very upset" and "self conscious". If you're a person with self confidence, you handle stuff. If you lack self confidence, someone telling you to "buck up, look on the bright side, and stop being a nancy" may not work. Personally, I'm not planning on doing anything about my thinning/receding hair. But I'm not going to tell someone else that they should, or they shouldn't, based on my perspective of how the world works. I'm not them, and they're not me. It would be nice if everyone had such self acceptance and self confidence that cosmetic surgery became a practice only involved in reconstruction after an accident or disease. But it's not. It's almost ALL elective.
Why, after all these years and so much enlightenment and liberation, do so many women still get breast implants? Or have their teeth whitened? Or get weaves to have fuller hair? Or undergo liposuction? Or lip injection? Or botulinum injection? etc. The list is long. Vanity sells. And perception is reality in the eyes of many. And telling them it's not doesn't work very well.
Thanks for an excellent and well thought out reply.
Besides working with my grandson's hair issue I am seeing a plastic surgeon with the hope of fixing my Depuytrens contraction, my pinky finger is bent over, almost touching my palm. New procedures may give me relief with only a few injections instead of surgery ( which I have had twice) In doing my research on him I looked at his website. They offer many options including a "Mommy makeover", very popular and if that makes them happy,good for them.

paul cottingham
08-22-2015, 4:17 PM
To be blunt, i suspect most of the reason people get self-concious about baldness because marketing tells them they should be.

Alan Hick
08-22-2015, 8:24 PM
Thanks for an excellent and well thought out reply.
Besides working with my grandson's hair issue I am seeing a plastic surgeon with the hope of fixing my Depuytrens contraction, my pinky finger is bent over, almost touching my palm. New procedures may give me relief with only a few injections instead of surgery ( which I have had twice) In doing my research on him I looked at his website. They offer many options including a "Mommy makeover", very popular and if that makes them happy,good for them.

Not to be contrary or unappreciative, but dupuytren's contracture is a stroll in the park compared to early onset male pattern baldness. And just to make sure we're all clear--just because a cosmetic or plastic guy is good at xyz, doesn't necessarily mean he's any good at all the other stuff. When I say "do research", I'm not f-ing around. I mean, DO RESEARCH. Find out what procedures/areas this person is certified in. Look at the state board website and find out what kind of complaints have been lodged. You may have to pay a fee for the information, but how much is "peace of mind" worth? Find out how this person ranks against his peers. Find out what his complication rate is, how that rate compares with the national and state average, and how his complications resolve--patient gets better, vs patient gets paid to not say anything.

You CANNOT assume that because someone is good at X they will also be good at Y. You have to establish that a doctor/surgeon is actually good at the procedure you're asking him to do on you, or on your loved one. The onus is on you, not the doctor. The doctor is unlikely to say "I'm really good at x, but oh my, I really suck at y". Such an admission would be counterproductive to building a practice. Some will make the admission, some won't.

So, PLEASE, don't assume anything. Evaluate and verify everything. And by doing so, if your GS goes through with it, he has the best chance of long-term success. Good luck.

Brian Ashton
08-23-2015, 12:19 AM
Problematically, SNIP And telling them it's not doesn't work very well.

So let me see if I've got this right - no one should give opinions of any kind.

dennis thompson
08-23-2015, 7:50 AM
So let me see if I've got this right - no one should give opinions of any kind.
Of course everyone has the right to their own opinion. Please, those who have responded, don't take this in the wrong way but I did ask about hair transplants. Many of the responses were in effect "learn to live with it" and I certainly agree with that but I'm 71 years old and still ,luckily have my hair. I think, well I know, my 21 year old grandson does not feel that way, so I'm just trying to help him with his problem.

Brian Ashton
08-23-2015, 9:53 AM
Of course everyone has the right to their own opinion. Please, those who have responded, don't take this in the wrong way but I did ask about hair transplants. Many of the responses were in effect "learn to live with it" and I certainly agree with that but I'm 71 years old and still ,luckily have my hair. I think, well I know, my 21 year old grandson does not feel that way, so I'm just trying to help him with his problem.

You gave a key point there. As older folks we provide a window into the future for the younger. By telling him to live with it is because that's what he will learn to do as he gets older. Maybe he'll pull the trigger and spend thousands on hair plugs, and most likely regret spending it when he get older. Because as most have said they don't look right. If the young have one fault it's their need to do things their way, i.e. "you don't know what I'm going through..." Oh but we do cause we've lived it... They don't understand that so many have already gone through it and have some valuable wisdom on how you will think and feel as to progress through life.

John M Wilson
08-23-2015, 12:11 PM
I went back and re-read your original post, and yes, you most definitely only asked about hair transplants for your 21 year old grandson.

I replied with a personal anecdote about going bald at 24, which had nothing to do with hair transplants. If I derailed the conversation, I apologize.

However, I took your original post in the light of "I want to help my grandson" -- in my mind, you can either help him get hair transplants, or help him cope with his thinning hair.

In my mind, this is you steering him toward a validation of self-consciousness, or a step towards self-confidence.

I realize that self-confidence comes from within, and no amount of on-line messages from a bunch of bald old men will create self-confidence in your grandson.

However, even after more than 30 years, I can clearly remember that day I met the good looking bald guy as described in my post, and what a profound impact that had on my attitude towards my hair. The only thing that changed that day was my attitude.

I was only offering my experience as a bald young man of approximately the same age as your grandson as an expression of hope: I hope it works out for him, whichever choice he makes. I was only trying to let him know that there is another choice; that it is not a binary decision between spending large amounts of money or being ashamed at not being able to grow hair on a certain portion of his head.

I do wish him, and you, the best.

dennis thompson
08-23-2015, 1:08 PM
I went back and re-read your original post, and yes, you most definitely only asked about hair transplants for your 21 year old grandson.

I replied with a personal anecdote about going bald at 24, which had nothing to do with hair transplants. If I derailed the conversation, I apologize.

However, I took your original post in the light of "I want to help my grandson" -- in my mind, you can either help him get hair transplants, or help him cope with his thinning hair.

In my mind, this is you steering him toward a validation of self-consciousness, or a step towards self-confidence.

I realize that self-confidence comes from within, and no amount of on-line messages from a bunch of bald old men will create self-confidence in your grandson.

However, even after more than 30 years, I can clearly remember that day I met the good looking bald guy as described in my post, and what a profound impact that had on my attitude towards my hair. The only thing that changed that day was my attitude.

I was only offering my experience as a bald young man of approximately the same age as your grandson as an expression of hope: I hope it works out for him, whichever choice he makes. I was only trying to let him know that there is another choice; that it is not a binary decision between spending large amounts of money or being ashamed at not being able to grow hair on a certain portion of his head.

I do wish him, and you, the best.


Absolutely no need to apologize, I certainly wish I could put my 71 years of experience in his head but I can only offer advice, some is listened to ,some is ignored. I don't think you derailed the conversation at all. ( not like when someone says: I have $500 to buy a new saw and then we all give him advice on buying this great $1,500 saw) If hair transplants will help him in any way I'm more than willing to pay for them for him.

Pat Barry
08-24-2015, 2:08 PM
Luckily I've not had concerns with losing my hair at an early age although I' known many who have. Most of them have gone to the shaved look and been happy with it although, to be fair, these guys are upper 30's early 40's. I can certainly see why your grandson might want the transplants and frankly they ARE A VALID OPTION for many people. I don't agree that your son has to go bald to be a man as someone suggested - that's ludicrous. All I can really tell you is to steer him AWAY from the new / alternative concept of hair tattooing. They advertise this on the radio ALL THE TIME. This is something folks will come to regret in the future.the