Goodell Pratt Breast Drill Question

[Mark R Webster]

Hi all! I have a breast Drill that looks exactly like a #6 Goodell Pratt breast drill, the paint is gone and there is a bit of rust. I cannot find the name Goodell Pratt anywhere on the tool, is that common, did they just paint their name on this vintage or make them unmarked for other sellers? Any way to prove it is a Goodell Pratt?
Thanks
Mark

[Bill Houghton]

Any sign of anything stamped into the crank handle? M-F and Goodell marked their drills there quite often.

[Lonnie Gallaher]

I like to take the scientific approach. "If it looks like, smells like, and tastes like something - it is that something."

[Mark R Webster]

Nope :( Can't see anything.

[Joe Bailey]

Have you checked the chuck shell ?

[Jim Koepke]

Any chance of pictures?

jtk

[Mark R Webster]

Sure I'll get the camera out post in a few minutes.

[Mark R Webster]

Here are some pictures, I found a patent date as you can see, but I can't find any other markings. The date is very small and hard to read but it is March 31 1886.

[Jim Koepke]

The date is very small and hard to read but it is March 31 1886.

You may be reading the date incorrectly. The date you see is for a Wednesday, and as recently pointed out to me, patents are with few exceptions issued on Tuesdays.

The frame on yours looks more like a Millers Falls. Is it dual speed?

jtk

[Mark R Webster]

Yes it is a 2 speed. It is really difficult to read the date I suppose I could not be reading it right. I tried to take several pictures but nothing was clear enough to post.

[Mark R Webster]

To me the drill looks like this http://oldtoolheaven.com/related/goodell-pratt-breast-drills.htm

[Mark R Webster]

How about March 31, 1896

[Nicholas Lawrence]

Even if it does not have the Goodell Pratt name on it, it may have been made by them. I have three drills (two "eggbeaters" and a brace) that are marked Craftsman, but that as far as I can tell are identical to Millers Falls Models.

[Jim Koepke]

How about March 31, 1896

That returns this page:

http://www.datamp.org/patents/displayPatent.php?pn=557328&id=7921

jtk

[Mark R Webster]

Yes that is what the drill looks like other than the chuck which looks more like the one he got a patent for in Sept of the same year. Did the link not take you to the image of Pat# 557,328?

[Mark R Webster]

Here is a more complete view of the drill.

[Mark R Webster]

Thanks everyone for your input. I appreciate it.
Mark

[Jim Koepke]

Did the link not take you to the image of Pat# 557,328?

I just plugged the date into this page to find the patent:

http://www.datamp.org/

My OS and browser are rather out dated, so some pages do not come up.

One of these days I will upgrade.

jtk

[Karl Andersson]

I saw three identical ones at a flea market this weekend - all had Goodell Pratt and location info stamped on the smooth cone part of the chuck shell, read with the drill pointing down. I couldn't see if they had any information on the handles, as they were pretty rusty, but the gear guide on yours looks like that used on GP drills (a flat piece of metal vs the little wheel used by Millers Falls). The circular line and patent date on yours doesn't show on any examples in the internet - maybe it was made for another brand by GP, or it's part of an early logo (maybe the GP shield logo with a circle surrounding it?).
Karl

[Mark R Webster]

Thanks eveyone for you thoughts!
Mark