Turbine spray systems

[Marc Spagnuolo]

Hello all. I am in the market for a turbine spray system. I am not sure what company to go with. For those of you who have them, which company did you go with? Thanks for the advice!

Marc

[Richard Wolf]

I have the Fuji Q4 system. Works very well.

Richard

[Bob Wingard]

I got the Apollo 800 .. .. .. no problems with it !!

[Chris Padilla]

Apollo 1000 here...it is loud, it is noisy, but it does very well. Waffled back and forth between Fuji and Apollo and Apollo came through with a deal for me so I went with them. Very happy with it...just noisy! :)

[Ian Barley]

Another Fuji Q4 here - perfect for what I do with it - worth every penny of the price.

[Christian Aufreiter]

I'm not really contemplating one of those systems right now but I'd like to hear comments on the Graco items. HVLP turbine systems seem to be hardly available here but Graco is one of the rare brands I could buy locally.

Thanks,

Christian

[Chris Barton]

Hey Richard, I figured you would have the "best of the best" with the q4 system! How does it compare to the HVLP conversion guns designed for compressors (which is my low $ solution at present)? When you spray shellac how dilute do you have to get it for good flow and leveling?

[John Renzetti]

Hey Richard, I figured you would have the "best of the best" with the q4 system! How does it compare to the HVLP conversion guns designed for compressors (which is my low $ solution at present)? When you spray shellac how dilute do you have to get it for good flow and leveling?

Hi Chris, I'm looking for a replacement for my old Fuji bleeder type gun. One nice option is the Sata Satajet RP or the Sata NR2000 RP. Both can be run off relatively lower powered compressors. (lower powered in this case is 3-5hp with large 60-80gal tank). Also looked at the Accuspray number 10 that can be used with my present Fuji HVLP compressor. Saw them all recently at the AWFS in Vegs.
take care,
John

[Richard Wolf]

Hey Richard, I figured you would have the "best of the best" with the q4 system! How does it compare to the HVLP conversion guns designed for compressors (which is my low $ solution at present)? When you spray shellac how dilute do you have to get it for good flow and leveling?

Okay, I'm not a expert with finishes, but here is what I found in my research;
1) With a conversion gun you need a good size compressor which I didn't have.
2) You will need to have a moisture sperator inline.
3) The turbine unit produce warm to hot air which seems to help most finishes.
4) Turbines are more compact if you must take them to a job site.
5) It comes with a nonbleeder type gun, so when not spraying, air is not blowing out of the gun.
This is important so you are not blowing dust around the area by mistake.

The fuji Q4 is a quiet system which came with different tips for different material thicknesses, I have not sprayed shellac only lacquer so I can't help you there.

Richard

[Sam Blasco]

I've got the Turbinaire system and have found it comparable to all the above mentioned items when I tested them. I also have the Accuspray conversion gun and that did a great job as well, still does (I keep it set up for dyes.) With a conversion gun make sure and install a mini-regulator right at the gun, and I've also got a mini-water filter on that gun, as well an in-line at the compressor. When it is all said and done, a conversion gun is half the money, but depending on the amount of use, could be tough on all but an industrial compressor, so may not be so inexpensive in the long run. If you can afford it, get the dedicated turbine system. Or you can try what I often do, spend less now, then when the limitations of the frugality become apparent, spend more later to get what I should have gotten the first time. At least, I have a dedicated dye gun now for the one time a year I may need it.

[Marc Spagnuolo]

This guy seems to have decent prices on the Fuji stuff.

http://www.phelpsrefinishing.com/fuji.html

Anyone have experience with this dealer? I am considering the Q4.

Marc

[Paul Berendsohn]

Christian,

I have a large Graco turbine setup. Love it, although I haven't mastered the whole HVLP thing by a long shot. I have a bleeder style gun which can be a hassle, but I haven't figured out yet if my turbine is compatible with a non bleeder. In any case, the Graco turbine and their support is first rate.

PaulB

[Richard Wolf]

This guy seems to have decent prices on the Fuji stuff.

http://www.phelpsrefinishing.com/fuji.html

Anyone have experience with this dealer? I am considering the Q4.

Marc

Yes, I purchased my system from them. I got the "Best Deal" for $975. The whip is very good to have and I wanted the extra tip for heavy material. Shipment was prompt with everything intact.

Richard

[Marc Spagnuolo]

Thanks Richard. Very good to hear!!


Marc

[Chris Fite]

I have an Eaglespray system that has served me well for nigh unto 15 years.

[Jeff A. Smith]

I have the Capspray 9100. That's a really fine machine. They're somehow affiliated with Wagner, but Capspray is the "upline" (similar to DeWalt and Black and Decker, I suppose) to Wagner. It's not cheap -- Somewhere just south of $900. But so much better than the HVLP gun I had before -- which was a VERY-HIGHLY-RECOMMENDED (and expensive) Binks gun.

The Capspray sprays a better pattern and is easier to control.

But I'll admit that this is subjective -- guns are a personal choice :) .

At least take a look at the Capspray before you choose a system.

Good luck...

Jeff Smith
Athens, AL

[Christian Aufreiter]

Thanks, Paul.

Christian