SawStop Move-in Advice

[Mark Ketelsen]

I have a SawStop Professional 3HP cabinet saw on order and I'm pondering how to get it down to me basement shop. I plan to unpack the shipping container in the garage so the challenge is getting the cabinet-table assembly down the stairs. The landings are 37" x 39". I would greatly appreciate advice and experiences any of you have had with this type of problem. Thanks.

[Kent A Bathurst]

Here's what I did with my hot-dog-eating Unisaw:

A fridge-moving dolly/hand truck with a strap; a muscular friend, or two, on the down-hill side; a case of good beer in the shop as an enticement reward. Plus - some heavy blankets to protect the walls from the missus freaking out.........

Leave the top on the cabinet. Remove wings, etc. and take them down separately. Not sure how the SS comes packaged...........

[Alan Lilly]

Hand Truck / Dolly with ratchet strap and stair climber belt. Mine looks something like this one from Harbor Freight http://www.harborfreight.com/600-lb-capacity-appliance-hand-truck-60520.html. Move a piece at a time. Make sure the dolly has the roller belts on the back near the lower section, so you can slide the dolly down the stairs without scratching each step. I move heavy items slow and methodically... 1 step at a time. A good dolly can move an amazing amount of heavy equipment ... just take your time. I have moved almost all my machinery into the basement... including a Grizzly 8 inch jointer in pieces. Yes it was heavy, but very doable. Going back up the stairs will require some extra help, but I will use the same hand truck again.

[Edward Oleen]

Being leery of damage to my back,my house, and the saw, as well as possible volunteer helpers, I'd hire a couple of professional movers to do the job.

I know, it sounds like I'm chicken, and I freely admit that I am. I'm not that big, nor that strong, and I've got only one back with no spare parts for it.

Professional movers not only have all the necessary equipment, but also the necessary skills, and, if things do go wrong, the necessary insurance...

THAT is a critical thing, as far as I am concerned. The insurance protects three ways: (a) it protects the equipment they are moving, should something catastrophic happen, like the cast iron table getting cracked. (b) ditto if something in the structure gets damaged. And (c) - most important - it protects both you and them should they get injured.

Lets face it: if you, or a volunteer helper, get seriously bunged up in doing the job, who is going to pay the medical expenses, and potentially provide income for life???

Think about it. I know it perhaps seems "unmanly" to hire the pros, but I consider the potential downside to be just too steep to risk it.

[Allan Speers]

^ I'm with Edward. If you can afford a Sawstop, you can afford to hire professional help.


If it were me, I'd park my car in the basement, and move the tools to the garage. i think that would be easier.


If you just spent every last dollar you had to get that beauty, and I mean Ramen noodles just became a luxury and the kids will have to wait a few years to go to college, then I'd consider taking it apart to the greatest extent possible, before continuing. The upside is (kind of seriously) that you would become more intimately aquainted with your new saw. This could serve you well sometime down the road, plus a little man-machine bonding is a beautiful thing. :)

[william watts]

I just unpacked and assembled my new PCS 3hp last March, it does not live in a basement. It comes shipped in 5 packages the main cabinet wieghs 330 lbs. An appliance hand truck is a good suggestion, its the only way I see to get it down the stairs. You will definitely need help. Two strong guys on the down side, as Kent said. You may need to move the hand truck at the stair landing to the other side of the box to continue down the stairs.

Helping my son move we had trouble with the HF hand truck. The stair rollers would not rotate, so we returned it and rented one at an equipment rental yard.

[Alan Lilly]

I just unpacked and assembled my new PCS 3hp last March, it does not live in a basement. It comes shipped in 5 packages the main cabinet wieghs 330 lbs. An appliance hand truck is a good suggestion, its the only way I see to get it down the stairs. You will definitely need help. Two strong guys on the down side, as Kent said. You may need to move the hand truck at the stair landing to the other side of the box to continue down the stairs.

Helping my son move we had trouble with the HF hand truck. The stair rollers would not rotate, so we returned it and rented one at an equipment rental yard.

My hand truck isn't a Harbor Freight brand... I was just using it as an example. A good one with the roller belts really helps avoid scraping your steps. :)

[Matt Day]

I can't begin to think how many times I've use this hand truck:
http://m.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty-hand-truck-95061.html
At least I think that's the same one I have, I bought it used.

I've moved cabinet table saws down stairs three times now with it, and it is not hard. That being said, I'm reasonably fit and had a helper. The main thing though is I know how to use the hand truck. Sounds silly, but understanding how to bump a heavy load down stairs smoothly and safely takes some skill.

Without the wings and it ratchet strapped to the hand truck and it's not very difficult. But if your unsure of your abilities, maybe hiring someone is a good idea.

One last thing, I moved an awkward 600lb bandsaw (after removing 400lb of parts) down the stairs with a battery powered hand truck. I rented it from I think United Rentals. I had a thread about it if you search for it. Overkill for a TS, but would help if you're not sure.

[Wade Lippman]

I hired professionals to do it. They moved 5 machines for $200. Can't beat that.
DO NOT remove the table. SS told me that is a structural element and you are likely to damage the cabinet without it.

Getting it around those turns will be tough even if it wasn't so heavy. Good luck!

[Keith Hankins]

I had an ICS delivered that went down some steps to a basement. Paid woodcraft to put it in the basement. My back was so worth the cost. Pay someone

[John Schweikert]

So I have simple question. Looks like a relatively new house. No outside basement access? How exactly do you get sheets of plywood down there, or long rough cut wood? I'm just curious how if that is your only basement access, that the space and stairs permit large supplies, wood and everything else normal to a shop space to be viable. I assume you are making things larger than small boxes or cutting boards with a PCS.

[Mark Ketelsen]

I also have that same hand truck and have used it for all kinds of things, including getting an 8" jointer down the same stairs. However, I'm thinking of renting an appliance dolly for this move because the smaller wheels will give me a few more inches of room to turn on the landings.

[Frank Pratt]

I'd pay to have it moved down there, especially if I had to go out to rent a dolly.

[Jay Michaels]

Being leery of damage to my back,my house, and the saw, as well as possible volunteer helpers, I'd hire a couple of professional movers to do the job.





Absolutely this. In my opinion, it would be well-worth the cost.

[Andy Booth]

I got mine down using an appliance dolly a block and tackle to lower slowly, and my wife on the tail end of the block and tackle.

I will gladly high high some professionals to get it up the stairs.

[Mark Ketelsen]

I have not had a problem getting stock and other machines (e.g. 8" jointer) to my shop down these stairs. For long stock, the ceiling is high and I just stand it up and pivot around the landing. Here's some fairly long stock I moved down several years ago. ( I don't build small boxes.)

[Erik Loza]

I'd pay to have it moved down there, especially if I had to go out to rent a dolly.


Absolutely this. In my opinion, it would be well-worth the cost.

+3 ^^^^

2-3 strong fellas could handle that, no problem. Cost you a few hundred bucks but well worth it. Best of luck.

Erik

[Dan Rude]

I used the heavy duty appliance dolly and made sure it was strapped tight. (My 15 year old said it was heavy, he was only 6' at the time. He now is 16 and over 6'5 so the strong teen is what I used.) :D I should have used this though:http://www.powermate.info/powermate_handtruck_l-1.htm but could not find it locally. This thread showed it http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?163383-Moving-heavy-Planer-to-a-Basement-Workshop. The other method is to make a sled and use a come-a-long or pulley to ease it down. Good Luck. Dan

[ryan paulsen]

Maybe a stupid question, but if you're having it delivered, is there an "add on" option to the delivery charge for them to deliver it to the basement instead of dropping it in the garage?

[glenn bradley]

This will depend on your condition and the condition of available friends. The saw body and top are much easier to move than a refrigerator. If I had a refer-dolly with straps and some moving blankets and two capable friends I would do it myself. If I only had one friend I would hire it out. Getting the saw down there would not be my worry. Recovering for three weeks after throwing my back out would be my worry. Let your brain be your guide as opposed to your ego; if you are capable, do ti. If not, hire it out. At only 180 pounds and 60 years of age, I get more careful every year ;-)