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Bill Grumbine
08-09-2005, 9:19 PM
Greetings all

The Vega has landed, and is safely in the shop! I had some minor adventures in getting it there, but isn't that what life is like when acquiring heavy machinery?

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Here we see the machine as it arrived. I picked it up at the dock. I would have been able to pick it up yesterday, but someone did not see the big red block printing across the bill of lading that said "LEAVE ON DOCK". So it went for a ride in the country, ostensibly for the purpose of being delivered to my door. However, since they had the wrong name (i.e. half my name) and the wrong road (i.e. half the name of the road) the driver could not find me. This is probably from the same person who did not see the big block printing. Anyway...

I arrived at the dock to discover the see through crate the thing came in. Much to my surprise, it was pristine! There were no scratches, it was right side up, there were no ugly holes from a fork lift being rammed through its heart or anything! This is probably the first time I have ever received anything via common carrier that did not look like it had been dragged behind the truck. The dock supervisor put it on the truck, and off I went. I spent the rest of the day driving around with this lathe in the back of the truck, since all my friends and family have real jobs, and no one was around to help unload it.

Come evening, SWMBO came home, and we recruited the neighbor. We installed the Harbor Freight truck lift, slid the lathe off its skid onto my fingers (OUCH) and then onto the lift. SWMBO did the heavy lifting by pressing the down button. Just as an aside, if you have a pickup truck with a class 3 receiver on the back, you need one of these HF truck lifts. They go on sale for $199.99 or something like that, and shipping is free, or at least it was when I bought mine. It saves a lot of grunt work when it comes to lifting logs, lathes, and other heavy items that could mean a truss in one's future.

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Here is a shot of it in its new home in the shop. It is sitting right next to my MM 20 bandsaw, which is right by the door. From the pickup, to the bandsaw, to the Vega, and its done! I need to work on that wall a bit to get some storage over there, and some better insulation, but it is in a great place. There is room all around, and I can move between it and the Poolewood easily (the Poolewood is hidden behind that big slab of maple), and with the Vicmarc mini set up next to the combo machine, I will be able to supervise three students from a swivel chair! Everyone will be able to turn without having to worry about shavings flying from their neighbor.

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Here is a closer shot. The cage is going away of course. I may saw most of it off and use the stub end for a wood platform where I can put some tools and a Moffatt light. The tailstock comes off in seconds if I need to put the big table on the combo machine for sawing up sheet goods, and the bandsaw is on wheels if I need to do some long sawing that will not go past the Vega.

I got a plug on the end and turned it on to see it run. It is as quiet as the Poolewood. The digital readout is in frequency rather than rpm, but it is going to be relatively simple math to get the actual speed. If the lathe is shaking, turn the speed down, right? I won't get a chance to turn on it until Thursday or Friday, but I will be sure to report again on it. Overall it looks like a great machine!

Bill

Don Baer
08-09-2005, 9:28 PM
Bill,
Nice Gloat and Nice machine. I am sure in no time you'll be making chips fly and turning some of those logs you do.

As an aside I saw the HF lift a few weeks ago and thought about getting one. I guess after your brief review I should put it high on my list.

Jim Becker
08-09-2005, 9:51 PM
Excellent, Bill! Congratulations...nice aquisition, not only for teaching, but for when you want to be turning on multiple projects for some reason. BTW, my first thought on that cage "stalk" was "light"... ;) ...reaching past the headstock for tools wouldn't be my preference.

John Miliunas
08-09-2005, 10:15 PM
Hey Bill, that unit looks Vega-ly :D familiar! I now you'll enjoy it. It really is a sturdy piece of equipment and made in the good old US of A!:) :cool:

Ernie Kuhn
08-10-2005, 1:13 AM
Bill,
I'm green with envy. Excellent choice and don't forget we all want to see the first piece off this machine.
Question: In your first picture, you have a series of "rings" hanging off the ceiling. Almost looks like a bunch of brass rings that used to be on merry-go-rounds? (Guess I'm dating myself) What are they?
Ernie

Ed Lang
08-10-2005, 8:54 AM
Bill,

Great lathe! I hope to turn on it one day.



Is this the lift you are talking about?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47591

Jeff Sudmeier
08-10-2005, 9:09 AM
Bill congrats on another great lathe! You sure do have a good collection of them! :)

Pat Salter
08-10-2005, 10:29 PM
Guys like you and Norm Abrams make me sick! :D You've both got the neatest toys. But wait! Didn't the Joker say the same thing about Batman? Does that make you a superhero?

haha, just kidding. Looking forward to seeing some stuff off of it. And be careful of those swivel chairs...some of them lean back too far, then you fall, and then you can't turn :eek: Dont' go there. :)

thomas prevost
08-10-2005, 10:45 PM
some of us can only dream. Though, My skill level would only embarass a lathe of that quality.

Also, my envy is only deepened by your posts. Liked the cyclone and bandsaw in the pic. It has to be a real joy to work with such fine tools.

Jim Becker
08-11-2005, 8:34 AM
some of us can only dream. Though, My skill level would only embarass a lathe of that quality.

Tom, a good quality tool will actually help you improve your skills faster and easier...you don't spend time fighting with the machine. That doesn't mean you have to buy the "it slices, it dices" product, just invest in good quality first. You actual cost will be less over time.

Bill Grumbine
08-11-2005, 9:08 AM
Howdy everyone!

I hope to put some serious shavings around this thing today, if I can get past some flat work that needs done. There will definitely be some more pics when that happens.

Don and Ed, Ed's link is to the lift that I have. I am not a big fan of Harbor Freight equipment, but when they get something right, they get it very right. This thing is sturdy and reliable, and has moved men, machines, and materials. I have stressed it out to the tune of about 800 lbs or so with a huge cherry log for which I had no saw. It is worth well more than what I paid for it, so if you have the opportunity, get one!

Ernie, everyone who comes in the shop asks about those rings. For the past ten years I have been turning all the tap handles for a local micro brewery. I must have made close to 1000 by now. They are shaped like beer bottles, stained with a dark mahogany stain, and varnished with a water base varnish. Then the brewery puts a label on each one as well as a bottle cap, and there you have a wooden beer bottle beer tap. I screw them onto the rings to dip them in a tank of stain, and then hang them to dry. The rings also hold them for spraying.

Pat and Thomas, I was discussing this stuff with a student yesterday during a lesson at his own shop. He is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $25 million! It is all relative, but the thing that I was saying was that I never dreamed I would ever own equipment like this when I started out. I remember buying my Jet 1236, and it was the most expensive tool I had ever purchased in my life. It has been a steady progression to what I have today, but I doubt I will ever make it to the level of my student!

Jim, Jeff, and John, I am looking forward to dressing this one up a bit. It needs some tool rests, and I need to adapt a light to it, but right now it is ready to spin some wood. And I have some large slabs of walnut and white oak just itching to turn into round pieces!

Bill

Ernie Nyvall
08-11-2005, 8:01 PM
Congratulations Bill! Supposed to be a real nice machine.
I just started turning in January and love it. I can't wait to turn on something like that.

Ernie

Don Baer
08-11-2005, 8:05 PM
Bill;

I guess got to get one before I try to bring home the new band saw.

800 lbs huh sonds good to me.

Bill Grumbine
08-11-2005, 8:48 PM
Bill;

I guess got to get one before I try to bring home the new band saw.

800 lbs huh sonds good to me.

Hi Don

If you end up buying one, there are lots of parts and you need to read the directions. One thing they do not tell you is when and when not to use the support feet. You DO NOT want to use the support feet when loading the truck. The weight in the back compresses them and you will have all sorts of trouble getting them folded up so you can drive away. The time to use them is when you are unloading. That way the truck does not sag when the weight moves onto the platform and whatever it is rolls or falls off.

Bill