Oneida Super Dust Gorilla with Resin Fan Housing

[Kevin Tulipana]

I am new to the Creek and like many others am in the process of picking out a new dust collection system. I have been so lucky to have a wonderful wife, who recently agreed to turn my old 16X24 shop into a small guest space allowing me to build a much bigger 32x56 new shop! I am going to separate the building into two rooms - one for my tractor, lawn equipment etc and the other 26X32 area into my wood/welding shop. The shop is built the electricity is being done now and I am looking into dust collection. In the old small shop, I would either use my Festool CT36 for as much as possible or blow my chips outdoors for 'natural composting'. I want to go cyclone with fixed ducting in the new shop with the possibility of expansion in the future.

The Oneida folks are trying to sell me 5hp Super Dust Gorilla. I am almost sold on the unit, but have a little hesitation with the resin fan housing. I have also looked at the Grizzly stuff, but the really the 5hp units are almost identical in price even without the Hepa. I don't like the idea of the ClearVue MDF kit - just looks too High School shop for me (sorry ClearVue supporters). Does anyone have an opinion or experience with the newly designed SDG (resin fan housing) and do you all think this change has been done strictly to control cost or is there actually an advantage to it. Also, I want to know what you all think about spiral duct vs Nordfab vs PVC. I know I have asked a lot here, but there are many many threads on the subject, but the most recent is still a couple years old. I have a PM2000 table saw, 6" Jointer, 13" planer, miter saw, router table and belt sander as well as a wide assortment of festool stuff that will ultimately be hooked into the unit. I have plenty of head room (10' ceiling height) and new 200 amp service. I look forward to hearing everyones opinions or ideas on the matter. Thanks

[Neal Clayton]

I think that's overkill.

I had a PM66, 18" planer, 8" jointer. Never had a lack of air moving ability with a 1.5hp Oneida cyclone, using one machine at a time via 6" main pipe and 4" drops.

The catch is not losing airflow in the pipe. I used PVC. Grounded metal can work just as well, but seal the seams/joints, that's the key.

[Jamie Buxton]

Welcome to SMC!

SMC's Search will find you many threads about your topic. Go up one level to the Workshops forum. Look to the upper right, and you'll see "Search this forum." Type in "resin", or whatever you like. I see several recent threads about the resin-body Oneida chip collectors.

[glenn bradley]

I have a 2 hp unit and wish it was a 3. If space allowed a 5 would be a ok by me. Shop layout and duct path will drive the DC size along with machine requirements.

[Paul McGaha]

I have a 2 hp unit and wish it was a 3. If space allowed a 5 would be a ok by me. Shop layout and duct path will drive the DC size along with machine requirements.

I'm much the same Glenn. Oneida sized my unit for me, it seems to be adequate but I do kind of wish it was bigger.

If I remember correctly the size of the shop, what tools does the collector need to cover, and how many people work in the shop were the main factors in sizing the unit.

Kevin - I don't know anything about the resin fan housing. Good luck with the purchase and the install.

PHM

[Phil Thien]

I'm much the same Glenn. Oneida sized my unit for me, it seems to be adequate but I do kind of wish it was bigger.

If I remember correctly the size of the shop, what tools does the collector need to cover, and how many people work in the shop were the main factors in sizing the unit.

Kevin - I don't know anything about the resin fan housing. Good luck with the purchase and the install.

PHM

I agree with these guys, if you have the room and dollars, I'd go with the 5.

I also know nothing first-hand about the resin fan housing.

[Frank Pratt]

I just got a V-5000, which has the resin housing and cone. I can't see how you could ever break or wear out the resin housing. I think it would also contribute to a quieter collector because the resin is acoustically, quite dead. On the down side, the metal ones look better.

I haven't actually run mine yet though, so this is all just initial impressions.


Frank

[Steve knight]

I doubt you could wear it out. I have not worn out my clear view but I have worn out several dc hose going to the can.

[glenn bradley]

I just got a V-5000, which has the resin housing and cone. I can't see how you could ever break or wear out the resin housing. I think it would also contribute to a quieter collector because the resin is acoustically, quite dead. On the down side, the metal ones look better.

I haven't actually run mine yet though, so this is all just initial impressions.


Frank


I doubt you could wear it out. I have not worn out my clear view but I have worn out several dc hose going to the can.

Thank goodness for Frank and Steve. They have some valuable input that addresses your question. The rest of us were trying to help ;-) I didn't think about it but, while my machine is steel, my ducting is all ASTM-2729 and shows no signs of wear. I even have a plastic blast gate where my drum sander connects. This junction sees a lot of debris and although the plastic has a nice satin finish, the wear does not seem significant to me. The noise cancelling possibility that Frank mentions is atttractive too.

[george wilson]

I have a 2 HP Dust Gorilla in my 16 X 22' "mess making" room,where all my wood working machines are located. It is LOUD,LOUD,LOUD. Plenty of suction,but the noise is a nuisance. I wish I had it located in a little out building just on the other side of the wall.

Also,it may be a weak electrical part,but I can't turn the thing on more than 3 times in an hour.

[Kevin Tulipana]

Thank you all for the advice on the matter. There is only about a $220 difference (even with shipping) between the 5hp SDG and the 5hp V series. I think I will likely go with the SDG - it may be more machine than I need but I don't think I will ever with I went with something smaller. I just am not really sure why Oneida moved from metal fan housing and motor mount, to resin. It even looks like they have made this change on their Pro series units as well. I will plan to put my collector on the other side of a wall so it should cut down on noise.

[Steve knight]

I run aluminum shavings and all kinds of plastic and carbon fiber and other stuff through my clear view and it has held up and it is far quieter then metal.

[Ole Anderson]

Don't be afraid to put 26 gauge snaplock steel on your list of duct materials, several of us have gone that way and not regretted it.

[James Baker SD]

I piped my shop with Nordfab and I love it. A bit pricey is the downside. 5hp Oneida is in another room (corner of my hand tool area) and I close the door between that shop and the power tool shop when running the DC and that helps with the noise a lot. DC is the loudest machine I own.

[Jim Andrew]

Do you know if the SDG and the V5000 have the same size impeller? Far as pipe goes, if you can not find S&D pipe, check with your local Ace hardware, my local Ace is about the lowest on 26 gauge pipe and fittings. Snap lock. I would talk to the plumbing manager and see if they can get longer pipe lengths. Although the 2' pieces would work well for some runs.

[John K Jordan]

I I have been so lucky to have a wonderful wife, ... allowing me to build a much bigger 32x56 new shop! I am going to separate the building into two rooms - one for my tractor, lawn equipment etc and the other 26X32 area into my wood/welding shop.

Kevin, I can't help with your dust collection quest (I use a 5hp ClearVue) but congratulations on your shop. It is so exiting when it all comes together!

It immediately struck me that your luck and wife and shop sound very similar to mine! With the blessing from my lovely bride of 45 years, I just built a 24x62 shop near my barn for wood, metal, and farm equipment. Office with WiFi, woodturning area, flat wood shop (saws, jointer, sanders, etc), a welding room, and two bays for tractor and other equipment. Like you, I planned to house the tractor and big mowers (and bobcat) there but I soon found the space way too useful and put in metal machining equipment along one wall and use the bays for vehicle and general maintenance. (So I've started on another larger but much simpler building for the equipment plus horse and beekeeping stuff.) The shop has concrete floor, 6" walls, plywood "paneling", and heat and air - since I'm elderly and feeble. :-) The welding room opens to an outside concrete deck for when the weather is nice. I ran 100 amps in underground copper.

All this has taken a while to build since I have a crew of one (me) but the space is SO nice, especially after working, er, playing in the garage for years. Based on my experience, I am certain you will enjoy your shop even more than you can now imagine!

I did make a small sound-insulated room for the dust collector and big air compressor - the access doors are in the vehicle bays to even further limit noise to the shop. I ran 6" pvc thru the trusses to tool drops. I picked the ClearVue after much reading and find it perfect for me. The "kit" went together in a day, the construction is quite sturdy, and I liked being able to watch what was going on inside when testing the system.

I'm sure any DC you choose will work well for you. Blowing the chips and dust outside is certainly the healthiest solution. Life is good!

JKJ