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Raymond Fries
04-13-2015, 10:00 PM
I have grown to love herbal teas. The LOML is a research librarian and found this for me. I will look closer at my shopping choices from now on.

Do you know what is in your tea? This is a very informative article:

http://foodbabe.com/2013/08/21/do-you-know-whats-really-in-your-tea/

Take Care...

John M Wilson
04-13-2015, 10:01 PM
Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Shawn Pixley
04-13-2015, 10:17 PM
The Food Babe is not a universally recognized authority. She has received a lot of criticism from scientists around her agenda. Me, I like loose leaf Green Tea

Phil Thien
04-13-2015, 10:18 PM
And that is why I drink coffee.

Prashun Patel
04-13-2015, 10:57 PM
That whole diatribe about natural flavors really gets my hackles up.
My company manufactures such flavors (and fragrances) and I have spent a good deal of time educating customers properly.

This article, however, makes blanket statements and incorrect conclusions.

I have a dog in this fight, so I'm biased.

Ted Calver
04-13-2015, 10:58 PM
In 1986 while living in Turkey. I had the dubious pleasure of sharing many glasses of Turkish çay with friends who laughingly referred to it as Chernobyl çay. Following the Chernobyl disaster the fallout plume extended over the tea growing area on the eastern Black sea coast. Everyone was afraid they would start glowing in the dark.

Mel Fulks
04-13-2015, 11:31 PM
I've tried a few brands of green tea and didn't taste anything ,even strongly brewed. Why? Anybody else experience that?

Randy Red Bemont
04-14-2015, 7:14 AM
I've been drinking black tea for 40+ years and still love it and feed the addiction to this day. I think as with anything else, it is an acquired taste. I don't like the flavored teas at all. Just not my thing.

Red

Frederick Skelly
04-14-2015, 7:27 AM
The internet has a way of spreading distortions, falsehoods and "agendas". I didnt have time to review the food babe's credentials, but just because she wrote out her interpretations of what she read doesnt mean she got it right. And just because somebody has a lawsuit doesnt make it accurate either. Forgive me, I dont mean to be critical or harsh. But the article had a sensationalist tone that set off my warning signals, is all Im saying. Id do more research into this before taking her blog as factual.

Green tea for me, please!

Fred

Mike Null
04-14-2015, 7:52 AM
I wouldn't give a lot of credence to what she says but I'm one who doesn't give a whit about organic stuff. I like my Trader Joe's Earl Grey breakfast tea and once in awhile a flavored (caramel) tea packaged in Iran and brought to us from Germany.

Keith Outten
04-14-2015, 8:34 AM
There are two sides to every story but we should remember that Coca Cola once used cocaine in their soft drinks and it was acceptable at that time based on what we new. Last year I had health problems that caused me to attend a twelve week Cardiac Rehab Program. At the beginning of each session we had a classroom training period that was a real education where food and health concerns were discussed. The group of veteran nurses that provided the training were very knowledgable and their message was very clear, the American diet is one of our worst enemies. I determined that the grocery store can be one of the most dangerous places we frequent based on what I learned. Fast food restaurants are another story :)

Imagine a room full of heart attack survivors and some of them are just barely in their 30's. Its pretty common the days for young people to suffer from heart disease, this is a sad situation. Ya gotta keep them pipes clean folks of they will clog up.

I won't comment about the story above but I will say that I now am a believer in consuming organic food whenever possible. To back up my personal opinion I have just started the largest vegetable garden I have ever had and invested heavily in new equipment to make it possible. An organic label is not a guarantee that food you consume is actually safe since all of the food in the grocery store is supposed to be safe and we all know that is not true.

Some in the medical community recently predicted that the youngest generation in America today will be the first whose life expectancy is less then their parents.

Bruce Pratt
04-14-2015, 9:03 AM
See https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/collapse-food-babe-how-manage-crisis-morgan-fisher for additional details

Phil Thien
04-14-2015, 9:17 AM
At the beginning of each session we had a classroom training period that was a real education where food and health concerns were discussed. The group of veteran nurses that provided the training were very knowledgable and their message was very clear, the American diet is one of our worst enemies.

What kind of diet do they advocate for survivors? Is it individualized or are there some general rules? While all these diet crazes have continued, it seems like medicine still pushes: Reduced animal protein, low-fat, high-fiber, reduced calorie diets. I think their message is to eat lots of vegetables and a little animal protein, they seem to have stuck to that message through everything.

I don't think the Atkins and South Beach and Mediterranean approaches have worked long-term for most people but I could be wrong. Do they talk about those diets in your training? What is their take on them?

Phil Thien
04-14-2015, 9:26 AM
See https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/collapse-food-babe-how-manage-crisis-morgan-fisher for additional details

While I agree many of the criticisms are valid, that article and many of the links read like "she attacked Big Food, now Big Food is mounting a counter-attack."

Wade Lippman
04-14-2015, 9:34 AM
So weird flavored teas have some weird flavored ingredients. Who would have thought.

Rick Potter
04-14-2015, 10:39 AM
We just do Iced tea by the gallon, freshly brewed Lipton or whatever. For a while we liked Crystal Light instant peach tea mix, until one day I poured some into a glass that had a little milk at the bottom. For some reason, I let it sit a while before getting back to it. When I did, the tea had separated, leaving water at the top of the glass, and a pile of crud at the bottom.

Like I said, we do brewed.

Rod Sheridan
04-14-2015, 11:57 AM
Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

My choice as well.

When I visit one of my friends he serves me a "Picard Special".............LOL...................Rod.

Mel Fulks
04-14-2015, 12:06 PM
I like the Earl Grey, but I was getting spells of rapid heart beats and it can be a cause. Drink it only occasionally now and
the 'heart attacks' are less frequent.

Erik Loza
04-14-2015, 12:17 PM
No opinion on teas (sorry: Coffee drinker....) but I remember an interesting piece on NPR a year or so back: Apparently, some Chinese farmers have started to grow coffee plants due to the demand over tea. They interviewed a farmer lady and her statement was that she did not understand why peeople wanted coffee, since it tasted terrible, but they did a lot more money off it than growing tea. Thought that was funny.

Erik

Peter Kelly
04-14-2015, 12:32 PM
Very true. Yet another reason to avoid Starbucks. http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/11/17/china.starbucks/

The farmer was right btw. Chinese coffee will likely taste pretty terrible.

Erik Loza
04-14-2015, 12:35 PM
Whoa... Local neighborhood coffee joint for me.

Erik

Phil Thien
04-14-2015, 1:17 PM
Very true. Yet another reason to avoid Starbucks. http://www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/11/17/china.starbucks/

The farmer was right btw. Chinese coffee will likely taste pretty terrible.

I'm not removing cosmoline from my cans of coffee.

Raymond Fries
04-14-2015, 4:51 PM
I agree with many of the comments posted and there are always two sides to every story. I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. I just would prefer to drink tea without pesticide residue on it. That is a plain and simple fact. Some companies can hide ingredients in "Natural Flavorings" but others will not. The flavorings information was the least of my concerns. The lawsuit for pesticide is what concerned me.

It appears that safe ingredients are for us to research; we have to decide if we want to consume a product based on incomplete labels and manufacturing processes that we are not given the information on. I think the public should be informed of everything used in the growing and manufacturing process so we can make our own decision on purchasing the products produced.

There is fluoride in many teas. My wife is very sensitive to fluoride and if she gets a tiny bit, her muscles are cramped the next day. She always tries a cup of the brands I buy and if she has a reaction, I never go back because I want to stay as fluoride free as possible. Fluoride could make a very informative thread for those that are interested in avoiding poison. I have real life family experience with fluoride. I also have government documents stating what fluoride does to a small percentage of people. The point being that just because some people say something is safe, it may not be so. Do you really think the pesticides are safe even though they are in small quantities? Everyone should be aware of what they consume as we are what we eat.

And yes – Food Babe might be out of line with blanket statements but there are threads of truth there. Sometimes people throw out everything because of one point or statement they do not agree with.

What ever your brand of tea or coffee you prefer, just have a comfort level that you are getting a pure product so you do not get some chemical that may cause you harm someday because harm will never be traceable.

Fred Chan
04-14-2015, 5:23 PM
While on vacation in China I happened to visit a large tea plantation and sat in on a tea tasting. They demonstrated the proper way to make the best cup of tea was to discard the first brew as a rinse and drink the second brew. It didn't occur to me to ask at the time but Ill bet that doing the rinse not only makes a smoother cup of tea it also washes out some of the pesticides.