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Jaromir Svoboda
02-22-2015, 7:10 PM
I would like to build my first canoe and I need advice what would be good choice.Looking to build stable canoe for 2 people?

Mac McQuinn
02-22-2015, 8:19 PM
Jaromir,
"Bob's Special" by Bear Mountain Canoes is my favorite. Handles (2) average sized people without being cumbersome. This strips nicely and feels great in the water. The Prospector 16' also by Bear Mt. is also stable, gains a bit more capacity while being only a bit heavier/larger. Both very nice designs IMO. Good luck,
Mac

Keith Outten
02-22-2015, 8:42 PM
Jim Creech used to build strip canoes from Western Red Cedar many years ago. Maybe he has some pictures to share.

Jim Creech
02-23-2015, 12:34 PM
Jim Creech used to build strip canoes from Western Red Cedar many years ago. Maybe he has some pictures to share.
I have built several canoes using the strip method however these were built prior to digital cameras (or at least before they were available to the public and affordable), so the only photos I have, if I can even find them, are on processed film. I did build a Prospector 16 for a client some years ago. I do like some of the Bear Mountain designs but am not a fan of "Ultralight" or racing designs.Nothing against them, just personal preference. A word of caution: Any plans you choose to build, be prepared to loft the line drawings. I have found errors in the table of offsets for every boat I have ever built, including the computer generated designs.
If you run into any problems let us know. I am certain someone else here has already encountered/experienced the same or similar problems; Myself included! Glad to help any way we can!

Jaromir Svoboda
02-27-2015, 8:54 AM
I ordered plans for Newfound Woodworks 17' Traveler.

Bill Adamsen
03-01-2015, 9:54 AM
That's a nice symmetrical boat. You'll have a blast, can't wait to see progress photos (blog it?).

Might want to read Martin Step's web-site on building strips for some well thought out ideas on outfitting - for instance the seat design (http://www.greenval.com/#Seat). I also happen to like John Winter's asymmetric designs and Martin does an amazing job building some of those.
http://www.greenval.com/
http://www.greenval.com/winisk.html

Malcolm Schweizer
03-01-2015, 10:00 AM
I build strip built kayaks and surfboards. I don't have waters that favor a canoe or I would build one as well. What waters will you be paddling most- flat lakes or rivers and streams? It would determine what I might recommend- more rocker and tumble home for the latter.

Barry McFadden
03-07-2015, 12:43 PM
Jaromir....Here are a couple of pics of a Cedar Strip canoe I built a few years ago...you can read about it in more detail in the Thread by Kevin (thinking of building a canoe/kayak) that I just posted in....

Ray Selinger
05-11-2015, 9:42 PM
I've used at least half a dozen different canoes, and have a couple now. One's a cedar strip I built,a Bear Mountain 17" Nomad, a prospector style.

There are some tools that are truly magic. I made my mold stations out of plywood and "faired" them. I used a Stanley #151 spokeshave. A spokeshave is by far and away the best tool to get the changing bevel I found. You soon can do it by eye. But I had the factory blade, and with plywood, had to sharpen a lot. Get a Lee Valley PMVII blade, it should save you at least half the time in fairing.

I saved cedar,I ripped my strips with a bandsaw, on the outside it didn't matter, it's easy to sand. But on the concave inside, it was harder to get the saw marks out, a table sawed strips might be a easier route.

Jaromir Svoboda
06-25-2015, 11:04 PM
It is all done.17' long Traveler

Mac McQuinn
06-26-2015, 12:50 AM
Very nice, have you had the opportunity to get it wet yet?
Mac

Barry McFadden
06-26-2015, 6:26 AM
Great looking canoe!!!......well done......

Jaromir Svoboda
07-17-2015, 8:28 PM
Yes,I went for a short ride

David Cramer
10-29-2015, 12:55 PM
Hi Jaromir and Barry

To both of you, how long did it take to build your canoes and approximately what do the materials cost? I'm really interested after seeing both of yours. Well done to both of you, they look awesome!!!!

David

Barry McFadden
10-29-2015, 6:14 PM
Hi Jaromir and Barry

To both of you, how long did it take to build your canoes and approximately what do the materials cost? I'm really interested after seeing both of yours. Well done to both of you, they look awesome!!!!

David

Thanks David....I built mine at nights after work ... maybe 2 hours a night....took a couple of months to complete...it was so long ago (1977) it's hard to remember the cost. The coating is West system epoxy I think about $250, the cedar, oak and fiberglass cloth was probably around $200. I just remember that it didn't seem too expensive when I built it.

Jaromir Svoboda
12-30-2015, 8:57 AM
It took me 145 hours to build it and about $1,000 in materials.I cut my own strips and have bunch left over so I can build one more.

Mac McQuinn
12-30-2015, 5:04 PM
It took me 145 hours to build it and about $1,000 in materials.I cut my own strips and have bunch left over so I can build one more.

Was epoxy & FG cloth your largest expenditure?
Mac

Jaromir Svoboda
01-04-2016, 10:51 PM
Yes.I also bough seats and yoke.