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kevin nee
02-19-2015, 8:09 PM
Hello, I would like to get two holes in 1 1/2 hard maple. I would like nice round holes not a jig saw cut. I have been looking at hole saws. Any recommendations? Brands, suppliers, carbide or bi-metal.
Thanks in advance, Kevin

Andy Fox
02-19-2015, 8:26 PM
A circle cutter in a drill press or a router with trammel and straight bit should work.

James Zhu
02-19-2015, 8:36 PM
Use forstner bit on drill press to remove bulk of the material, then use router with trim bit & circle template to make final clean cut.

Check this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8YJ16ziI8M

James Baker SD
02-19-2015, 9:06 PM
I have a 6" Milwaukee and the gullets are the tiniest bit more than 1-1/2 inches from the disk of the disk so you really getting to its limits. Also, not sure it will make the smoothest cut (bought it for cutting through steel) unless you have a strong drill press and solidly clamped workpiece.

Ray Newman
02-19-2015, 11:18 PM
See what Jim Zjhu wrote in response #3. That would be the best bet.

Keith Pleas
02-19-2015, 11:24 PM
Sounds like another reason to buy a scroll saw. I mean, if you wanted to. ?

mreza Salav
02-19-2015, 11:53 PM
You'd get burn marks with a hole saw in hard maple. A router with a circle cutting jig would give you a clean cut.

Mark Kornell
02-20-2015, 3:04 AM
I've use a Milwaukee 4" bimetal hole saw in beech. Very fast cut, no burning. The cut edge needed sanding, but there was no tearout.

To deal with the thickness, I made the hole from both sides. The pilot bit makes this very simple. It also ensure there is no blowout from the hole saw exiting the back of the piece.

Mike Cutler
02-20-2015, 5:31 AM
Kevin

A hole saw will do this, but it's going to be slow. Six inches is a big hole and the speed will have to be slow at the outside diameter to allow the material to clear the teeth. If you go this route, I'd go carbide with an aggressive tooth configuration. I'd also back the maple up, top and bottom, to prevent to tear out.

I think I would cut most of it with a jig saw and use an MDF template, with a router, and a spiral bit, to get the the finished dimension.

Randy Red Bemont
02-20-2015, 6:54 AM
You'd get burn marks with a hole saw in hard maple. A router with a circle cutting jig would give you a clean cut.

+1
This is your answer to do it correctly and simply.

Red

Steve Jenkins
02-20-2015, 7:10 AM
I would use a router. You could make a pattern from mdf first then use that. If you use a hole saw score the surface first with the hole saw then drill a few 3/8 diameter holes that intersect the scored line. This will give you chip clearance that will prevent burning and make it much easier going with the hole saw.

Jim Matthews
02-20-2015, 8:39 AM
If you don't already own a drill press with enough throw,
or bits large enough to manage this - it might be worth farming out.

If you're only going to do it once....
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Sam Murdoch
02-20-2015, 8:50 AM
I agree with the router suggestions. A good little woodworking project. Cut the waist with a jig saw- within an 1/8" or less to your line then follow up with a router and hole template OR a circle cutting jig.

I don't have a circle cutting jig for my router. I guess I don't use one often enough to justify the expense and then every time I face this chore I wish I had one:). Anyway, I typically use 1/2" or 3/8" MDF because I can sand the circle line more easily and cleanly but plywood will do too. You can use a hole saw to cut MDF soooo much easier than into solid wood but you can cut your template hole with a jigsaw too. Sand to the line for perfection with a sanding drum.

The template then gets clamped to your work piece and you run a bottom bearing 1/2" or 3/4" trim bit along the template. The closer to the line you have cut your maple the easier and cleaner the router finish will be. After that you have a 6" hole template for future uses.

Just looked at the video from post # 3 - The Rockler circle jig seems like a must have - forget the MDF template. SO - what James Zhu says :cool:.

Prashun Patel
02-20-2015, 9:20 AM
If you use a hole saw, then I have a tip: Once you get about 1/4" in (enough so the line is scored fairly well) pull out and drill a few small relief holes just inside the score with a 3/8" bit. Drill all the way through (being careful to back the bottom of the cut so you don't tear out). This will allow a lot of the dust to fall through when you switch back to the finishing the hole. The problem with hole saws is there's no place for the waste to go, so the gullets get packed, the blade overheats, and dulls and you (read, I) get insufferable burn marks on the inside of the hole

Jim Finn
02-20-2015, 9:28 AM
I would do it with a scroll saw. The cut is very smooth with a scroll saw. If you put sand paper to a scroll saw cut it will degrade the finish of the cut. Scroll saw blades burnish the edge and will not burn the wood if the blade is sharp.

Bill Huber
02-20-2015, 9:34 AM
Take a look at this thread for making a template. http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?227635-Six-Inch-Hole-Saw-Drill-Speed-Question

Then I would use the forstner bit and the router, like is in the video that was posted by James in post #3.

John TenEyck
02-20-2015, 10:56 AM
1/4" upcut router bit, router, and trammel. Doesn't get any easier or quicker. Take 1/8" passes, and leave two or three little uncut points with your last pass. If you don't the router will jump at the end of the cut because the center disk is no longer connected to the outside piece. So leave a couple of "bridges" uncut, then cut those loose with a knife or saw and sand flush.

John

John D Watson
02-21-2015, 8:03 AM
Keven, this is a worthy buy as they can cut up to about 9" holes. They cut cleanly, smoothly and can be set to any little incriment.http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32275&cat=1,180,42316

Mike Heidrick
02-21-2015, 12:16 PM
Jasper jig and spiral downcut router bit _ if you dont wat to make a jig.

Sam Murdoch
02-21-2015, 2:04 PM
Jasper jig and spiral downcut router bit _ if you dont wat to make a jig.

Now I know about Jasper Jigs :cool: . You can't get on to their website without registering (what a PItA :mad: - I did not comply) but here is a video showing how the jig is used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQOB1sSRKZg The "instructor" was a bit casual - I would have clamped my work piece - but in any case this shows the potential for the jig. My way, as described in an early post, seems utterly stupid considering some other options using relatively inexpensive jigs :rolleyes:.

Bill Adamsen
02-21-2015, 2:29 PM
If a lathe and the material fit (the maple can spin over either the bed or outboard end) that would be the easiest, fastest, and most accurate outside of a hole saw. Alternatively, the lathe could quickly cut a hole for use with a router and guide.

Marc Seguin
02-21-2015, 10:22 PM
I'd do this with a router and trammel jig as well. Putting a piece of scrap across the back of the hole with double sided tape means you can punch right through without having the centre piece skip loose and allow the router to damage the outside of the hole.