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Mike Wilkins
01-26-2015, 10:12 AM
After years of use, the wheels on my Heavy Duty Shop Fox mobile base are falling apart. I installed this base in 2001 under my LT18 bandsaw, and have used it since then with no problems. Now the wheels are basically falling apart; the actual wheel itself. Anyone else have this issue, and if so, are there replacement wheels available? Looked in the Grizzly catalog, since they sell the SF mobile bases, but no replacement wheels. The swivel mechanism is working fine; just the actual wheel.

Bill White
01-26-2015, 10:47 AM
Contact tech support at Grizz. NOT CUSTOMER SERVICE. The CS folks won't have the access to that info.
My guess is that you'll have to replace the whole caster. But..................
Bill

Bill Huber
01-26-2015, 11:00 AM
If the casters are bolted on I am sure you could take them off and go to a caster company and get some replacements.

You I am sure could measure them and get some on-line.

Keith Outten
01-26-2015, 11:01 AM
I use steel wheel castors for heavy machines in my shop. I have a concrete floor so the steel wheels work great and will last forever.

David Masters
01-26-2015, 11:42 AM
I have two Grizzly machines that I bought used, and the wheels on both the Shop Fox mobile bases are disintegrating. On the planer, I tried to replace the entire caster, but found the holes didn't match the new casters I found at Harbor Freight, Home Depot, or the local farm supply store. I ended up replacing the wheels on the old castors with some I removed from Harbor Freight castors. I still need to replace the wheels on the table saw.

Harold Weaver
01-26-2015, 1:42 PM
As Dave did, I bought a set of casters from HF to get the wheels off them to put on my Shop Fox base under my HD Shaper. The original wheels were the steel ones and made the machine rattle like a metal can of quarters every time I move it. They worked out fine. Just measure the ones you have and compare to the ones at HF and you should be good to go.

Ed Reeder
07-29-2016, 12:04 PM
My SF casters just crapped out. I called Caster City (recommended on another thread) and spoke with George who spent some time with me to make sure that I got the proper fix. I ended up keeping the casters and replacing the axles and wheels. He recommended polyurethane wheels and said that the ones with aluminum centers were best because of the way the treads locked into the centers. This was important because of the possible sideways strain on the fixed wheels when the base was turned. The aluminum center wheels also have ball bearings.

The casters just needed to spread slightly for the wider wheels (you might need to remove the fixed casters to remove the SF wheels) no drilling required. The caster sides do need to be tight to the wheels (if you get the aluminum center ones).

Let me say my table saw glides around now and locks in place when needed. The aluminum center wheels were more expensive, but I am VERY happy with the results. BTW - the axles have grease fittings so you can lubricate them if needed.

This is what I ordered Ordered: PA3x1-1/4B 3" Blue Polyurethane on Aluminum Wheel and LA3/8x2-3/8 Lube (Zerk) Axle 3/8" x 2-3/8" with Lock Nut.

Hope this is of use to others with SF/Grizzly bases.

Malcolm McLeod
07-29-2016, 12:26 PM
...This is what I ordered Ordered: PA3x1-1/4B 3" Blue Polyurethane on Aluminum Wheel and LA3/8x2-3/8 Lube (Zerk) Axle 3/8" x 2-3/8" with Lock Nut.

Hope this is of use to others with SF/Grizzly bases.

YOU ARE THE MAN!! (...and my profound apologies to all who find this misogynistic.) Yesterday I was in a TS turn - - at high throttle setting with full opposite lock on the steering - - and blew out my 3rd or 4th set of ShopFox casters (left a 3 foot skid mark!) And look what pops up? I've tried all the competing versions, but the 'swing diameter' keeps them from swiveling full circle and the bolt pattern seems unique. So I end up back at ShopFox, cursing the durability and the cost.

Thanks!

(Last time I ordered SF casters was ~2yrs ago and they were listed on the Grizzly website IIRC. Not sure about now....?)

James Gunning
07-29-2016, 12:51 PM
I've had casters purchased from Woodcraft fail as well. Their 3" red ones. The casters I've purchased from them are the highest quality I've been able to source. Despite that, some of them have failed. In every case, the outside red material (polyurethane?) failed. Usually, the outside layer splits open and come off, leaving the rest of the caster intact. I searched around on the 'net for a place that sold replacement wheels, and finally found some. However, after a search today, I can't find the place I used, nor remember it's name. Other than the outside diameter, the length of the axle is fairly critical. I purchased replacement wheels that bolted right in to the caster frames. I suspect a contributing factor in the failures is the high summer heat in my garage.

Ernie Miller
07-29-2016, 9:48 PM
After years of use, the wheels on my Heavy Duty Shop Fox mobile base are falling apart. I installed this base in 2001 under my LT18 bandsaw, and have used it since then with no problems. Now the wheels are basically falling apart; the actual wheel itself. Anyone else have this issue, and if so, are there replacement wheels available? Looked in the Grizzly catalog, since they sell the SF mobile bases, but no replacement wheels. The swivel mechanism is working fine; just the actual wheel.


Same thing happened to me on two Shopfox mobile bases. I just ordered 8 swivel wheel replacements, but haven't installed them yet. I don't think you can get the wheels without the swivel mechanism, but for a reasonable $7.95 each, it's worth it to just buy the whole unit. Here's the web page (http://www.grizzly.com/search?q=(SWIVEL+OR+CASTER+OR+FOR+OR+D2057A%2FD226 0A%09%247.95)). The part number is #D4173.

Dave Lehnert
07-29-2016, 10:14 PM
Not sure if this is the exact base you have but parts are available.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/d2057a/parts

Malcolm McLeod
10-14-2016, 5:36 PM
...Let me say my table saw glides around now and locks in place when needed. The aluminum center wheels were more expensive, but I am VERY happy with the results. BTW - the axles have grease fittings so you can lubricate them if needed.

This is what I ordered Ordered: PA3x1-1/4B 3" Blue Polyurethane on Aluminum Wheel and LA3/8x2-3/8 Lube (Zerk) Axle 3/8" x 2-3/8" with Lock Nut....

Just received and installed the same replacement casters from Caster City. I can push my TS and it will coast 20 feet into the opposite shop wall. (Thanks, Ed!) About same cost as the complete Shop Fox caster bracket and wheel, but direct fit to old brackets and easy install. Dimensions on wheels match, so they still caster 360* w/ no issues.

We'll see how they hold up durability-wise...(fingers crossed).

Gary Sostrin
06-02-2018, 11:45 PM
Malcom, Saw your response and I ordered the replacement wheels from caster city. Question, did yours come with2 blue caps that covered the sides of the bearing, and did you take these covers off before installation or did you leave them on?

Thanks gary

John Stankus
06-03-2018, 10:01 AM
Grizzly has them
D4173 Hard Rubber swivel caster
D4174 Hard rubber Fixed Caster
THose were the ones that disintegrate
Better are the iron wheel casters
D4175 Cast Iron swivel Caster
D4176 Cast Iron fixed caster

As far as I can tell the only difference between the ShopFox D2058A and D2057A mobile bases are which casters they come with (and hence the load rating). I have been switching over to the cast iron casters.


Amazon has them too Search by the D4175 number

John

Mike Wilkins
06-04-2018, 9:58 AM
I'm surprised this thread is still active.
I solved the problem by going to the local Harbor Freight, purchasing some casters with the same diameter wheels, and swapping them out for the original Shop Fox wheels. Worked great, but I may eventually switch to steel wheels since the shop floor is concrete, and not glass smooth.

Ernie Miller
06-04-2018, 10:14 AM
I'm surprised this thread is still active.
I solved the problem by going to the local Harbor Freight, purchasing some casters with the same diameter wheels, and swapping them out for the original Shop Fox wheels. Worked great, but I may eventually switch to steel wheels since the shop floor is concrete, and not glass smooth.

I'm surprised ShopFox still sells these casters. They must know, after all these years, that they are defective. My first set lasted 10 years. I had no problem with that so I ordered replacements, which lasted 6 months. I just ordered steel wheels which should be better.

Ben Rivel
06-04-2018, 11:29 AM
Yea this is exactly why I went with the Super Heavy Duty mobile base (LINK (http://www.grizzly.com/products/Super-Heavy-Duty-Mobile-Base/D2058A)), as it comes with the metal wheels.

Charles Coolidge
06-05-2018, 10:32 AM
Ben the metal wheels marked up my garage floor, this new one looks awesome 1200lb capacity, rubber over steel wheels with sealed bearings. Go price this type of caster wheel they are not cheap. Yet you get this entire base with the wheels for $56. http://www.grizzly.com/products/-Bear-Crawl-Heavy-Duty-Mobile-Base/T28000

Ben Rivel
06-05-2018, 5:30 PM
Ben the metal wheels marked up my garage floor, this new one looks awesome 1200lb capacity, rubber over steel wheels with sealed bearings. Go price this type of caster wheel they are not cheap. Yet you get this entire base with the wheels for $56. http://www.grizzly.com/products/-Bear-Crawl-Heavy-Duty-Mobile-Base/T28000
Yea, they marked mine a bit, but not bad. And yea I probably would have gone with that new Grizzly if I were buying now! Thats too cheap!

Robert Hayward
06-05-2018, 7:55 PM
I know this is an old thread but would like to add something. Castor City recommends wheels made of polyolefin if the castor will have constant weight on it.

Aaron Heck
09-18-2020, 10:55 AM
Any guys with the blue casters - how are they holding up? Still together?

Cliff Polubinsky
09-18-2020, 12:05 PM
Mike,

I've bought replacement swivel wheels for that base from Amazon. If I remember right they even say that they're replacements for the base. My wheels weren't disintegrating, I wanted 4 swivel wheels on the base.

Cliff

Scott Siddall
01-14-2022, 1:04 AM
My SF casters just crapped out. I called Caster City (recommended on another thread) and spoke with George who spent some time with me to make sure that I got the proper fix. I ended up keeping the casters and replacing the axles and wheels. He recommended polyurethane wheels and said that the ones with aluminum centers were best because of the way the treads locked into the centers. This was important because of the possible sideways strain on the fixed wheels when the base was turned. The aluminum center wheels also have ball bearings.

The casters just needed to spread slightly for the wider wheels (you might need to remove the fixed casters to remove the SF wheels) no drilling required. The caster sides do need to be tight to the wheels (if you get the aluminum center ones).

Let me say my table saw glides around now and locks in place when needed. The aluminum center wheels were more expensive, but I am VERY happy with the results. BTW - the axles have grease fittings so you can lubricate them if needed.

This is what I ordered Ordered: PA3x1-1/4B 3" Blue Polyurethane on Aluminum Wheel and LA3/8x2-3/8 Lube (Zerk) Axle 3/8" x 2-3/8" with Lock Nut.

Hope this is of use to others with SF/Grizzly bases.

Thank you for the info!

Richard Coers
01-14-2022, 1:53 PM
Thank you for the info!
Watch the dates on the posts. You just thanked a guy for his response from 5 1/2 years ago.

Ronald Blue
01-14-2022, 6:44 PM
Watch the dates on the posts. You just thanked a guy for his response from 5 1/2 years ago.

Even stranger is this was only his 2nd post since 2008. Once every 7 years.....

Joe Belanger
09-19-2022, 5:45 PM
My SF casters just crapped out. I called CasterCity.com (recommended on another thread) and spoke with George...


Thanks for the info. I called Caster City and spoke with Tory. He was very helpful and new my problem the minute I said Shop Fox. He pointed me to the product with the aluminum wheels. Part #PA3X1.25B He said that it is a tight fit but works (you may have to pry it in).

He was aware of your post here and asked me to post thisPerpetual 25% Coupon Code at Castercity.com​ for purchases over $40.
He was very nice and informative.

So here you go and thank you all for your free information dissemination.

Peace
Joe