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Reinis Kanders
01-10-2015, 10:21 PM
My current top is a 3" laminated plywood sandwich that is not flat, up to 1/8 variation. I am replacing it with two IKEA countertops that I will laminate and flatten. IKEA was the quickest cost effective way to get 3" top. I also decided also to replace my current twin screw end vise with a tail vise since I am disrupting my usual activities, hence the question.

Any opinions about Veritas quick release sliding tail vise? I am also considering a simple quick release steel vise as a tail vise.

Thanks.

Chris Hachet
01-10-2015, 10:45 PM
The Veritas piece would be my choice by a long shot.

Reinis Kanders
01-10-2015, 10:45 PM
I think I just convinced myself to combine twin screw and tail vise instead as seen in this video.
Pretty ingenious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JXxPPMkRAU

ken hatch
01-11-2015, 3:26 AM
A better question would be: Do I need a tail vise?

Reinis Kanders
01-11-2015, 12:16 PM
A better question would be: Do I need a tail vise?

True, that is a good question. Biggest appeal of the tail vise for me is the ability to have dog holes very close to the edge. My current holes are two inches from the edge and I find it rather limiting.

Jim Koepke
01-11-2015, 1:31 PM
A better question would be: Do I need a tail vise?

The answer to such a question is different for each person.

My tail vise tends to get more use than my face vise. A person making different projects is likely to have different needs.

jtk

Reinis Kanders
01-11-2015, 2:02 PM
The answer to such a question is different for each person.

My tail vise tends to get more use than my face vise. A person making different projects is likely to have different needs.

jtk

Do you use it for flattening between dogs? Reason I was thinking of moving my twin screw is because they way my bench is positioned I am not getting much use out of it.

Jim Koepke
01-11-2015, 2:52 PM
Do you use it for flattening between dogs? Reason I was thinking of moving my twin screw is because they way my bench is positioned I am not getting much use out of it.

Yes, and I also use it for holding pieces when dovetailing.

Mostly this is because my lighting is better at the tail end. There is also a bit more room at that end.

The positioning of a bench can have quite an influence on how a worker performs their tasks.

jtk

Jim Matthews
01-11-2015, 4:55 PM
A better question would be: Do I need a tail vise?

That's a VERY good question.

Jim Matthews
01-11-2015, 4:59 PM
True, that is a good question. Biggest appeal of the tail vise for me is the ability to have dog holes very close to the edge. My current holes are two inches from the edge and I find it rather limiting.

I currently have two benches.
One has the Veritas sliding tail vise, the other has the inset Veritas inset vise.

The inset vise is inexpensive and retrofits easily.
It is worthless without the stop which could be replaced DIY, if necessary.

It exerts tremendous clamping pressure.

If you can pass by the side where the screw handle
dangles, without taking out a pants pocket
it would get my vote.

The Veritas sliding tail vise is a much more involved,
stout product that is only as good as the installation.

If there's misalignment - it can be balky.

If you're retrofitting - the inset vise is (relatively) easy to install.

Veritas also makes a set of bench dog hardware that
could make the vise surplus to requirements.

A good stop over the most exposed corner of your bench
and a couple of "Wonder dogs" might be enough.

I'm finding that to be the case, in my current project.

http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=31129&cat=1,41637

ken hatch
01-11-2015, 8:52 PM
That's a VERY good question.

Jim,

Thanks, sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes no, and I expect many times the answer is: I haven't a clue.

ken

Chuck Nickerson
01-12-2015, 1:58 PM
Any opinions about Veritas quick release sliding tail vise? I am also considering a simple quick release steel vise as a tail vise.



I have one and installed in on an Ikea-like bench top. The install was easy, the quick-release works well, and it's a fine performer.
If you want a tail vise, this is a good way to go.