rodrigo sosa
01-10-2015, 4:46 PM
Hi everybody, really new here, glad if you can throw me your views on this subject, much appreciated
I was in the process to acquire a cabinet saw until... read Jim's post about his recommendation on a euro style sliding, was instantly sold, really, forget the unisaw et al
Anyway, my quest took me to learn the euro style seems more popular in my home country among the pros (uruguay), but the really proficient ones must clarify
I can instantly put my hands for the same price: $ 4800 + taxes (which can be deducted, this is a big plus from this private seller) for a
Tecnomax S315 WS
303914
or a Minimax S 315 Elite S
303915
For reference, the minimax elite saw is available new at:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MiniMax-S315-Elite-S-10-5-1ph-Circular-Saw-with-Tilting-Blade-SALE-NOW-/231323390231?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35dbf2d117
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MiniMax-S315-Elite-S-10-5-Sliding-Table-Saw-1ph-Lesson-Motor-SALE-NOW-/331308584202?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d2387cd0a
Why the price difference? $ 8.995 the cheaper one, considering import taxes (14%) and freight charges, the above equation is doing even more sense
As a side note a chinese knock off contractor style runs about $ 1400 (yeah... crazy stuff)
From minimax website: an improvement on our S315 WS platform, the new S315 Elite S is a heavy duty slider without the heavy duty price tag
This means the 'new' minimax is really the Tecnomax under a united brand name? Read that Tecnomax>Minimax as in Felder>Hammer, is that the case?
Anyway, yesterday went to inspect both slidings, here are my notes:
Both 3 Ph (a plus for me)
Both need adjustment on the ruler, but just a little, easy adjustment
Both perform really well on cutting and both sliding carts have no noticeable wobble whatsoever and slide smoothly, this is the heart of the machine right?
Both vibration free and turned disc by hand when both were off, couldnt notice wobble and both turned smoothly
They have good repeatability about 0.5 mm each time, enough for wood right? The cuts are straight
Tecnomax
Supposed to be by about 1.5 - 2 years older than the minimax
Cart surface shows more signs of use (some scratches)
Cart side surface (next to cutting disc) has a small cut/dent
Angle indicator missing in the machine, somewhere in the shop, can get it from the minimax and install in the tecnomax
Buttons are outside machine, owner did this to hang the buttons, easy re routing the buttons inside machine properly
Parallel fence has a deeper disc groove than the one in the minimax (again can ask to swap the parallel fence, no prob)
Noticed the table behind the cutting disc (white attachment) is bigger in the Tecnomax, not that I care much since will do the Router integration as Jim did
Minimax
Less scars on sliding cart
Deeper cut/dent on the side next to disc
Plastic side cover is missing, "should be somewhere in the shop" (?)
Owner did a nasty mod with a switch on the side (why oh why people do this?)
What do you say? which one is more appealing? are really both the same same sliding or in fact the tecnomax has more 'heavy iron' under the hood?
Final comments, upgrading from a chinese knock off (from father) to this non vibrating, straight cutting big surface is a dream!
Btw, seller, which is a pro, says he is selling all three sliding table saws because he is buying an automated loading and cutting machine, he got tired of fights between employees and the magic disappearances of tools (like a Festool 700 domino, ouch!) Sad story
Cheers
Rodrigo
I was in the process to acquire a cabinet saw until... read Jim's post about his recommendation on a euro style sliding, was instantly sold, really, forget the unisaw et al
Anyway, my quest took me to learn the euro style seems more popular in my home country among the pros (uruguay), but the really proficient ones must clarify
I can instantly put my hands for the same price: $ 4800 + taxes (which can be deducted, this is a big plus from this private seller) for a
Tecnomax S315 WS
303914
or a Minimax S 315 Elite S
303915
For reference, the minimax elite saw is available new at:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MiniMax-S315-Elite-S-10-5-1ph-Circular-Saw-with-Tilting-Blade-SALE-NOW-/231323390231?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35dbf2d117
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MiniMax-S315-Elite-S-10-5-Sliding-Table-Saw-1ph-Lesson-Motor-SALE-NOW-/331308584202?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d2387cd0a
Why the price difference? $ 8.995 the cheaper one, considering import taxes (14%) and freight charges, the above equation is doing even more sense
As a side note a chinese knock off contractor style runs about $ 1400 (yeah... crazy stuff)
From minimax website: an improvement on our S315 WS platform, the new S315 Elite S is a heavy duty slider without the heavy duty price tag
This means the 'new' minimax is really the Tecnomax under a united brand name? Read that Tecnomax>Minimax as in Felder>Hammer, is that the case?
Anyway, yesterday went to inspect both slidings, here are my notes:
Both 3 Ph (a plus for me)
Both need adjustment on the ruler, but just a little, easy adjustment
Both perform really well on cutting and both sliding carts have no noticeable wobble whatsoever and slide smoothly, this is the heart of the machine right?
Both vibration free and turned disc by hand when both were off, couldnt notice wobble and both turned smoothly
They have good repeatability about 0.5 mm each time, enough for wood right? The cuts are straight
Tecnomax
Supposed to be by about 1.5 - 2 years older than the minimax
Cart surface shows more signs of use (some scratches)
Cart side surface (next to cutting disc) has a small cut/dent
Angle indicator missing in the machine, somewhere in the shop, can get it from the minimax and install in the tecnomax
Buttons are outside machine, owner did this to hang the buttons, easy re routing the buttons inside machine properly
Parallel fence has a deeper disc groove than the one in the minimax (again can ask to swap the parallel fence, no prob)
Noticed the table behind the cutting disc (white attachment) is bigger in the Tecnomax, not that I care much since will do the Router integration as Jim did
Minimax
Less scars on sliding cart
Deeper cut/dent on the side next to disc
Plastic side cover is missing, "should be somewhere in the shop" (?)
Owner did a nasty mod with a switch on the side (why oh why people do this?)
What do you say? which one is more appealing? are really both the same same sliding or in fact the tecnomax has more 'heavy iron' under the hood?
Final comments, upgrading from a chinese knock off (from father) to this non vibrating, straight cutting big surface is a dream!
Btw, seller, which is a pro, says he is selling all three sliding table saws because he is buying an automated loading and cutting machine, he got tired of fights between employees and the magic disappearances of tools (like a Festool 700 domino, ouch!) Sad story
Cheers
Rodrigo