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Jonathan Freinkel
12-17-2014, 4:48 PM
Folks,
I am looking to make some shop furniture and need to make a good few dado cuts in plywood. I don't have one today but I am reluctant to spend $200 on one and "ruin it" on cheapo plywood or mdf.


Anyone have any recommendations?
I've heard about the wobble ones but haven't seen one yet.


Thanks
J

David Hendricks
12-17-2014, 4:55 PM
I have the freud d208 and feel it is a good set overall but doesn't give the flattest bottom. I have have also heard good things about but have never used the craftsman 8 dado set that can be had for $100. I would avoid wobble blades and bottom of the barrel stacked dado sets like the avanti brand you can find at a big box store.

glenn bradley
12-17-2014, 5:34 PM
Opinions on dados will come fast-n-furious but, respecting your desire to keep the cost down . . . My CMT that is a look-alike for the Freud SD-208 is my go-to for ply and MDF. I have the Freud SD-508 that I use for hardwoods (this is out of your $100 range so I just mention it to clarify my use). The CMT was clearanced by Lowe's when they switched to the Irwin badged product they are currently carrying so I got it cheap. The Irwin looks for all the world like the CMT including being made in Italy but, since the Freud is on Amazon right now for $15 less than the Irwin, why would you go to Lowe's? As stated, avoid wobble dado blades as they serve no real purpose that I can fathom.

Rod Sheridan
12-17-2014, 7:13 PM
Folks,
I am looking to make some shop furniture and need to make a good few dado cuts in plywood. I don't have one today but I am reluctant to spend $200 on one and "ruin it" on cheapo plywood or mdf.


Anyone have any recommendations?
I've heard about the wobble ones but haven't seen one yet.


Thanks
J

Carbide tipped dado cutters are meant for cutting plywood and MDF, don't worry about it.

Buy yourself one good one ( I have an FS Tools set) and be done with it..............Regards, Rod.

Raymond Fries
12-17-2014, 7:48 PM
If your goal is only a few dado cuts, maybe you could do them another way. For example, a down it spiral router bit could do it. If you want a dado set, spend a little extra and get a good one. I have a Freud dado set that had a handy dial for precise control.

Good Luck finding your solution.

Mike Henderson
12-17-2014, 8:48 PM
Yep, I agree. A router is a good way to cut dados.

Mike

Bruce Wrenn
12-17-2014, 9:52 PM
DeWalt makes a dado set that is in line price wise with the Freud SD 208. I own a 208, FYI. The router is the way to cut dados using a reverse helix cutter.

Matt Day
12-17-2014, 10:07 PM
Another satisfied SD208 user here.

Rick Lizek
12-18-2014, 5:55 AM
http://oshlun.com/stack_dado_set_professional.html
Look at the Oshlun. As someone else said cheap plywood and MDF will not hurt a carbide blade at all.

Dave Cullen
12-18-2014, 1:13 PM
I have the freud d208 and feel it is a good set overall but doesn't give the flattest bottom. I have have also heard good things about but have never used the craftsman 8 dado set that can be had for $100. I would avoid wobble blades and bottom of the barrel stacked dado sets like the avanti brand you can find at a big box store.

I have also heard good things about the Craftsman set, wish I had bought that instead of the POS Avanti set that I got from Home Depot.

Kent A Bathurst
12-18-2014, 6:20 PM
Folks,
I am looking to make some shop furniture and need to make a good few dado cuts in plywood. I don't have one today but I am reluctant to spend $200 on one and "ruin it" on cheapo plywood or mdf.


Anyone have any recommendations?
I've heard about the wobble ones but haven't seen one yet.


I was in exactly the same spot, with the same initial projects - get the shop set up. But - it won't take much time before you may want to make "better" ply carcasses.

"Cry Once". I have never regretted the up-front investment on the 8" Forrest Dado King 15 years ago. Still a champ - ply won't do any inordinate damage - a lot of ply will dull it faster than hardwood [it's the glue], but you'll still get a lot of use between sharpenings.

There are other top-end stacked sets, but I have no experience. I have always been leery of the wobble version, in terms of accuracy and safety, and especially repeatability. But I might be just seeing monsters under my bed - no experience there, either.

I have the shims in an envelope, with notes written on the envelope for each dimension I have ever done. After a lot of sharpenings, you would have to expect that the blade tips' dimensions would change very slightly But - that takes a while, and it is just a matter of checking your test cut, and changing the shim scheme - and then that is good to go for a long time.

Rick Fisher
12-19-2014, 1:32 AM
Carbide tipped dado cutters are meant for cutting plywood and MDF, don't worry about it.

Buy yourself one good one ( I have an FS Tools set) and be done with it..............Regards, Rod.

I have the FS Tool as well. Its outstanding but not cheap.

If I had not gotten the FS Tool, I would have gotten the Tenryu ..

I read Kent's post and agree. There are lots of good dado blades. The Forrest might be the best, or the Ridge, or Infinity.. I dunno .. but if you get a good one, in 15 years you will still be using it and still be impressed.

Bob Grier
12-19-2014, 10:37 AM
One thing I ran into when using plywood was that the 1/4" plywood I often used was less than 1/4". The stack dado set I purchased would not cut less than 1/4" so I had to buy a plywood router bit to dado when using 1/4" plywood such as for drawer bottoms. I have seen adjustable dado sets that cut less than 1/4" and sometimes wish I had paid more and got one of them. However, I don't know how well they perform. A stacked set seems to me to be bullet proof. Cutting a dado with router bit hasn't been as easy, precise, or consistent for me but at least allows me to use dado for 1/4" plywood joint.

Sean Troy
12-19-2014, 10:42 AM
+ 1 on the Freud SD-508. Yeah it cost more but leaves you with a lot less frustration.

Brian Backner
12-19-2014, 12:00 PM
Something to consider if you are using the really cheap Chicom plywood from the Orange Borg is that there are multiple stories of all kinds of weird stuff being found between the plies. I remember one guy discovering a nail or screw after it had destroyed a high end plywood blade!

Just sayin'

scott spencer
12-20-2014, 10:51 AM
The best performing set I know near the $100 mark is the Delta/DeWalt 7670 set. The design is similar to the Forrest's. With twice the teeth of most entry level sets, performance gives a taste of the highend sets for close to half the cost, and outperforms other $100 sets IME. It comes with a great case and excellent shim stock too. I've the heard that the Craftsman stacked set is similar/identical to the 76760, but I haven't seen one in person yet.

Kent A Bathurst
12-20-2014, 12:02 PM
One thing I ran into when using plywood was that the 1/4" plywood I often used was less than 1/4". The stack dado set I purchased would not cut less than 1/4" so I had to buy a plywood router bit to dado when using 1/4" plywood such as for drawer bottoms. I have seen adjustable dado sets that cut less than 1/4" and sometimes wish I had paid more and got one of them. However, I don't know how well they perform. A stacked set seems to me to be bullet proof. Cutting a dado with router bit hasn't been as easy, precise, or consistent for me but at least allows me to use dado for 1/4" plywood joint.

ON the rear occasions where I needed a dado < 1/4", I cut a 1/8" saw kerf, and then bumped the TS fence to hit the other edge of the dado - made 2 separate cuts. If you did this frequently, I could see a dado set, or 2 thin-kerf blades + shims as needed.

Rick Moyer
12-20-2014, 3:16 PM
The best performing set I know near the $100 mark is the Delta/DeWalt 7670 set. The design is similar to the Forrest's. With twice the teeth of most entry level sets, performance gives a taste of the highend sets for close to half the cost, and outperforms other $100 sets IME. It comes with a great case and excellent shim stock too. I've the heard that the Craftsman stacked set is similar/identical to the 76760, but I haven't seen one in person yet.
I'll second this one. Have no regrets not spending more for a different set.