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Chris Padilla
11-11-2014, 4:33 PM
https://www.festoolusa.com/power-tools/oscillating-multitools/

Sorry, it is the Festool Vecturo Oscillating Multi-Tool.

I didn't think a tool like this could be improved upon.

I have a Bosch that I used quite bit to demo my master bathroom. I found fair amount of water and bug damaged lower studs, sill plate, and sub-floor. The Bosch made the job much much easier.

Interesting. Wonder how much green for the green? :D

Paul Hingco
11-11-2014, 4:37 PM
Interesting. Wonder how much green for the green? :D

A mere $575

http://www.shopfestool.com/festool-vecturo-os-400-eq-set-563007/?gclid=CL_d3evA88ECFehzMgod1WoA0g

Tom Ewell
11-11-2014, 4:37 PM
Think it's at the $575 level for the kit, won't be giving up my cordless Fein anytime soon but the Festo does have some pretty neat attachments that make sense.

Chris Padilla
11-11-2014, 4:38 PM
I take it that is the bare-bones version without all the fancy gizmos. :D

Paul Hingco
11-11-2014, 4:49 PM
The basic kit is $425. I don't use my old multi master enough to justify the Festool version.

http://www.shopfestool.com/festool-vecturo-os-400-eq-non-set-563006/

Jim Matthews
11-11-2014, 5:04 PM
I put a no-set saw blade on a piece of bannister handrail to cut trim in my bathroom remodel.

Maybe I wasn't as fast, but $425?
Yikes

Peter Quinn
11-11-2014, 6:19 PM
Looks like the nicest oscillator I've seen, with typical well engineered festool fixtures to expand its usable range. But I'm not in the line to get one, just not enough need in my life.

Mark Bolton
11-11-2014, 6:56 PM
Most ridiculous offering Festool has come up with. Someone is off the rails over there. I watched the video this afternoon and the "remodeler" that walks into my house and whips one of those out is going to get bounced out the door and back into his BMW. Just plain kooky. The most primitive power tool on the face of the earth and they are going to inflate the price to wha?!?!? Again. Goofy. The time it takes that guy to knock out an old work box with the plunge base in the video would have him bankrupt in a week.

Insane.

John Coloccia
11-11-2014, 7:08 PM
Not sure about the plunge base, though I could see it being used on finished work where maybe you need to install something in a cabinet, or something like that. The depth stops seem really useful, especially for repetitive work. Wonder if it takes standard blades, or if it has some wacky pattern.

I JUST bought a Fein. It's hard to imagine the that Festool could out-quality them. It'll be interesting to see if it takes off here.

Andrew Gold
11-11-2014, 7:19 PM
The Fein version I bought when they held the patent changed the way I was able to do some remodeling, and was well worth the money (maybe 300?). Now that all the major power tool companies make them, it's hard to see why a premium could be justified.

That said, changing blades on mine is sorta a PITA!

Mark Bolton
11-11-2014, 7:41 PM
I could see tool free blade changes being worth a bit but the mere cost of blades alone for these things should leave anyone with a sound mind very cautious of what one will pay for the base tool. Even the "dual saw" version of the tool on infomercial would be skeptical simply because the base tool could be more than affordable but now buying a dual blade each time for a replacement would void any base tool costs quickly.

At 10-15 per blade for generics these things are simply the most expensive way to do a job but yes, they are extremely handy when they are handy. I can only imagine the festool more.

I guess its a personal thing for me but these are simply crude tools. Sure you can cut a couple pieces of case for a flooring install, you can trim off a water pipe here and there, but if your installing flooring regularly this is not the tool to make you money. They are a tool that serve a purpose in a pinch. I can jab saw an old work box faster than you can cut one with one of these and FAR cheaper.

Chris Padilla
11-11-2014, 7:53 PM
The Bosch I have is easy to change the blades on. I was shocked the first time I went to get replacement blades for these tools! Of course, you can get real cheap ones from eBay made "over there." ;)

However this tool was indispensable on my bathroom gut and remodel. It made cutting out bad chunks of studs easy...replacing bad sill plates easy...cutting nails easy. The best was using it to slice up chunks of sub-floor and being able to put the same piece back down (very small kerf).

Bill Orbine
11-11-2014, 8:00 PM
Festool Multi? No thanks! I'm fine with my Fein!

Mike Henderson
11-11-2014, 10:03 PM
I have the Harbor Freight version of the MultiMaster and it does everything I need it to do. I don't use it very often but when you need it, it's a nice tool to have.

Mike

Rich Engelhardt
11-12-2014, 7:16 AM
I noticed in the video that there's no provision at all for dust collection.
That's pretty un-Festool.

John Coloccia
11-12-2014, 9:02 AM
I have the Harbor Freight version of the MultiMaster and it does everything I need it to do. I don't use it very often but when you need it, it's a nice tool to have.

Mike

I tried one. The head got so hot that it melted through the plastic sanding shoe. I took it right back and bought the Fein...and that is a beautiful tool, BTW. I think the HF would probably be OK with cutting tools, if you can get it to stay tight. I think I had the cheap one, too. I think they make a nicer one than I had.

Rich Engelhardt
11-12-2014, 9:31 AM
I think you got a lemon John.
I have two of the HF single speed (they make a cheap single speed and a more expensive variable speed) and both run fairly cool.

I had a horrid fist generation Dremel that got so hot after 2 or 3 min, you couldn't hold it. What a worthless piece of junk that was! I didn't miss that thing one bit when it stopped working all out of the blue.

scott vroom
11-12-2014, 10:59 AM
$575 for the kit including the plunge base. I'll stick with my Crane 555 jamb saw and Bosch jig saw. The video shows a guy using the tool to fit eng flooring. This shouldn't be necessary if you're making accurate cuts on the chop saw.

I guess the tool would come in handy for certain things......but at that price?

Jason Roehl
11-12-2014, 11:07 AM
I have the Fein--great tool. The tool-less blade changes are quick and secure. It gets a little warm, even hot, but not to where I can't hold it, and that's only in the head area, not back in the "handle" part of the body. As for the blade issue, I've found that heat is definitely their killer. The stroke on these tools is so small to allow for plunge cuts, that there's no natural heat dissipation. The solution is that, if possible, you should move the tool along the line of the cut, not staying in one area. Mine came with the sanding attachments and the dust collection, but I don't think I've ever used the dust collection--the dust generated doesn't seem to get thrown very far, so it mostly just falls straight down, at least with cuts. For sanding, I think I've only used it briefly, and only horizontally, where again, the dust didn't seem to travel much, making DC non-critical.

I don't use it often, but when I have, it's been the bee's knee's. Like Chris, it's great for removing studs, better than a Sawzall--not quicker, but less chance of collateral damage, same with removing door jambs. Mostly, I've used it for under-cutting door jambs for flooring installation, something at which it excels.

Would I get an HF model? Maybe. I don't have much need for another since I don't use the Fein that much (I think it's probably paid for itself by now), but I could see a cordless as being occasionally useful (high on a ladder or at a non-electrified location, both rare needs).

I definitely don't see any reason to "upgrade" from Fein to Festool, and I think $575 would be a tough pill to swallow if I were buying my first, even if I used it frequently. That seems to be a theme with Festool. They certainly make great, quality tools, but they're essentially the top end when it comes to price, too. For me, that puts it in the market of those who have a lot of disposable income (not me), or those who would use the tool often to make far more profit than the tool is worth (also not me--perhaps close).

Chris Merriam
11-12-2014, 4:21 PM
FYI, Festool licensed this from Fein. It's the supercut or the multimaster, whichever one is the higher end version. Then they added the attachments to it.

Tom Ewell
11-12-2014, 4:47 PM
Interesting, the supercut is a multimaster on steroids and priced totally bare bones at roughly $400

Robert Parent
11-12-2014, 4:59 PM
+1 for my original Fein.... Mine gets used with most every project, can't see a reason to change.

John Coloccia
11-12-2014, 5:05 PM
FYI, Festool licensed this from Fein. It's the supercut or the multimaster, whichever one is the higher end version. Then they added the attachments to it.

I thought it looked suspiciously Fein-like, especially the head.

Jason Roehl
11-12-2014, 5:12 PM
Okay, I hadn't looked at the Festool link until now. Those attachments do look kinda handy, based on my experience with the Fein.

Sam Murdoch
11-13-2014, 4:01 PM
I have the Harbor Freight version of the MultiMaster and it does everything I need it to do. I don't use it very often but when you need it, it's a nice tool to have.

Mike

I asked about this before I bought mine and on the recommendation of quite a few folks here on the Creek I bought the Harbor Freight version too. With a coupon I bought the variable speed version for $32.00 - less than the cost of my first 3 blades :eek:.

I have beat the crap out of this thing and it is showing no sign of diminished effort. OMG I love this little tool. It allows me to tackle work easily and efficiently that I would have kept me awake trying to figure out how to or kept me working with jigs and all kinds of work arounds that I now don't think twice about. Just get out the HF multitool.

I don't use it as a sander - not its strong point, but I do use it as a heavy duty, precise demo tool (yes, very little "collateral damage") so that my Makita Sawzall is getting lots of rest these days and it's amazingly accurate straight line cutting tool in all sorts of materials. The HF is too noisy and the cord is too short and the case is too small (thing just barely fits) BUT for $ 32.00 I would do it all over again. My first and likely my last HF tool - I am a huge endorser of Festool, but not for this one. Maybe if I needed a little sander but for sawing wood, pipe, screws, sheetrock etc. the HF is way more than good enough.

Rich Riddle
03-12-2015, 9:18 PM
Interesting, the supercut is a multimaster on steroids and priced totally bare bones at roughly $400I own a Fein Supercut and doubt the Festool has anywhere near the Supercut's power. There are adapters to use less expensive blades on the Supercut.

peter gagliardi
03-13-2015, 9:16 AM
I know a guy who gets to "test drive" Festool tools, and isn't shy about telling them, or anyone else if it's a piece of junk.
If I remember right, he said it is more powerful than the Fein super cut. His impression is that it is quite a decent tool.
Maybe some don't remember, but I do, about 8-10-12 years ago, the Fein multimaster was being sold for $6-700 ! That was then, and probably less than half the new Festool's power. It doesn't appear to be unreasonable in price from here.
I just bought a Fein multimaster about 2 years ago, in the cheesy bag for about $200 I think, after scoffing at its usefulness, or my lack of knowing, after seeing it used by another contractor on a job. I was impressed at the ability, and level of control, and lack of mess like with a typical sawzall type tool.
These tools don't get used every day, but they do earn their place when needed in my toolbag.

Jim Dwight
03-13-2015, 10:22 AM
I use a Harbor Freight one I paid $15 for. I'd like something nicer but it won't be a Festool.