Use for ruined table saw blade

[David Ragan]

Hi,

I have a ruined 10" table saw blade that got that way cause of my stupidity with my SawStop.

I hate to just throw out a Forrest WW II blade.

The professional sharpener says it is toast.

Any ideas for another use?

I usually set off the SawStop about every year. this is the first time the blade can't be salvaged.

Thanks, David

[Mark Bolton]

I some times see saw blades on a drum kit for a cymbal type affair. But they are usually 7 1/4". Perhaps frame them on your wall as a reminder.

[Matt Ellis]

Some knife makers forge them into knives, too.

[Jim Becker]

There's always the traditional shop clock... :D

[Mel Fulks]

They don't take up much room. I've saved them to use where there is reason to believe rough stock might have nails or
for rough cutting good but dirty or painted wood.

[glenn bradley]

I put mine and the cartridge on the wall in the shop as a reminder ;-)

They don't take up much room. I've saved them to use where there is reason to believe rough stock might have nails or for rough cutting good but dirty or painted wood.
If the sharpener says its toast, it is for safety reasons, don't run that blade ;)

[Rich Engelhardt]

See if Carbide Processors wants it.
They mentioned on their web site or newsletter they take old carbide.

[Kent A Bathurst]

Date it. Hang it on the wall. Collect the whole set.

Some people mount fish, others mount deer heads...............

[John Hollander]

Hi,

I usually set off the SawStop about every year. this is the first time the blade can't be salvaged.

Thanks, David

Whats causing the break to go off? Is this skin contact or something else?

[David Ragan]

Couple of times it was when I put a Sears plywood blade on it--100 or so teeth, and now that I think about it, I just assumed the spacing b/t the blade and the brake would be the same. It must no have been. SawStop sent me a brake the second time it happened, I sent the activated brake to them for analysis. I haven't heard anything. They have been very good whenever I have called.

Then, a couple of times, my JessEm miter fence has nicked the blade. Everything works as advertised.

None of the activations was for a finger, etc. All could have been averted if I had been more aware of everything.

I keep a spare cartridge in the shop.

[David Ragan]

I took one of my clocks off the wall......don't want to be reminded what time it is all the time.

Knife blades sound interesting. You need some kind of special hack saw blade, right? I can see where my reciprocating saw metal blade would not hold up to that?

Probalbly mounting straight in front of the table saw as a reminder is the best use.

[Prashun Patel]

Hang it over your saw as a reminder of the danger.

[ernest dubois]

I do recall, from another era, an article from Fine Woodworking describing the method of making custom shaper knives for reproducing historic moldings, cut from circle-saw blades. If it's feasible or not I can't say but there you have it, from Fine woodworking no less. Once the composition of the metal used throughout these blades was known then the next step could be figured out.

[Daniel Moore]

Ok, my thought(s). Throw it away and chalk it up to a life, learning experience.

[Larry Frank]

I mounted mine with the embedded cartridge on the wall right next to my SawStop. It makes me remember every time that I am near the saw how I made a stupid mistake and to always be aware.

I caught the corner of my Incra aluminum miter gauge.

[wayne booker]

Pull off the cartridge and make it a clock. You set that thing off once a year? Good grief, that's expensive. I go back and forth on saw stop, thinking the safety is great but I'd sure hate to ruin a nice blade by mistake. I think I'd have to disable the safety whenever I use it. So then why have a saw stop? I dunno, what a conundrum.

Wayne

[Kent A Bathurst]

Pull off the cartridge and make it a clock. You set that thing off once a year? Good grief, that's expensive. I go back and forth on saw stop, thinking the safety is great but I'd sure hate to ruin a nice blade by mistake. I think I'd have to disable the safety whenever I use it. So then why have a saw stop? I dunno, what a conundrum.

Wayne

Don't even go near there, dude..........:D

This horse has been absolutely beaten to a pulp here, for years after it died.

The number of SawStop threads that have been locked is equaled only by the number of Grizzly Customer Service threads that have been locked. The swords and pitchforks get sharpened, and the battle is joined, the "discussion" ends up in the same place every time, the Mod Squad lets it go as long as they can until the emotions overrule sensibility and civility. I used to enjoy them simply for the entertainment value.

Those SS threads are all available if you search for them. Bring yer popcorn - the BIG bucket.

And...bring some hotdogs to cut on your TS. :p :p

[Keith Weber]

I read once where a guy cut out a rectangular section of a blade with a single tooth on it and used it as a parting tool on a metal lathe. I thought that was pretty slick.

[Rod Sheridan]

I do recall, from another era, an article from Fine Woodworking describing the method of making custom shaper knives for reproducing historic moldings, cut from circle-saw blades. If it's feasible or not I can't say but there you have it, from Fine woodworking no less. Once the composition of the metal used throughout these blades was known then the next step could be figured out.

Hi Ernest, the plate on saw blades is far thinner than any shaper knife I would be happy about using............Rod.

[Jim Stearns]

There's a guy on You Tube that makes ninja shurikens out of old saw blades. They seem to work very well, for what they are. I haven't tried it myself. They're also illegal in many states, including IL.

[ernest dubois]

Hi Ernest, the plate on saw blades is far thinner than any shaper knife I would be happy about using............Rod.
Ok, try this one, I remember Yeung Chan also sending out an article on the tools he makes, chisels, carving knives, spokeshave blades, scratch stock, things like that. The blade blanks he cuts from circle-saw blades. Still before going to the trouble it would be good to know just what the material is made up of.

[John Coloccia]

Personally, I'd use it to take up any free space in my garbage can. I don't know about you, but I need MORE free time, not less. Fiddling around with a broken saw blade seems like a complete waste of time. The one thing I'd consider is the saw clock idea, because that's cheap and easy and you don't really have to do any work, but I've never had a clock in the shop, so.....

[ernest dubois]

Yes, I'm personally inclined to agree. Still there was an inquiry made and a variety of inclinations out there.

[Tom Walz]

+ 1 for Clock

OSHA won't let a sharpener repair a damaged blade that might be dangerous. No more crack welding, plugging, etc. When saw blades come apart it can be really nasty.

We do buy carbide. A solid carbide tool is fine as are saw tips removed from the saw blade.

Tom
Carbide Processors

From: A Guide for Protecting Workers from WoodworkingHazards
U.S. Department of Labor
OSHA 3157 - 1999
http://www.osha.gov/Publications/osha3157.pdf

You must also remove any cracked or damaged bladesfrom service. Keep circular saw blades round and balanced. You must removedull, badly set, improperly filed or improperly tensioned saws from service,and immediately clean saws to which gum has adhered.

[Bob Michaels]

I did the same thing when I first got my ss. Ran some p.t lumber and the brake fired. Haven't had it fire again. I am planning on calling Forest to see if they can make it like new for a fraction of the cost of a new ww II.

[John Coloccia]

+ 1 for Clock

OSHA won't let a sharpener repair a damaged blade that might be dangerous. No more crack welding, plugging, etc. When saw blades come apart it can be really nasty.

We do buy carbide. A solid carbide tool is fine as are saw tips removed from the saw blade.

Tom
Carbide Processors

From: A Guide for Protecting Workers from WoodworkingHazards
U.S. Department of Labor
OSHA 3157 - 1999
http://www.osha.gov/Publications/osha3157.pdf

You must also remove any cracked or damaged bladesfrom service. Keep circular saw blades round and balanced. You must removedull, badly set, improperly filed or improperly tensioned saws from service,and immediately clean saws to which gum has adhered.


I'm curious. What do you do with the carbide? Does it get melted down and cast into blanks? I'm always curious how people make money on stuff that I normally just toss in the trash!

[Keith Hankins]

Couple of times it was when I put a Sears plywood blade on it--100 or so teeth, and now that I think about it, I just assumed the spacing b/t the blade and the brake would be the same. It must no have been. SawStop sent me a brake the second time it happened, I sent the activated brake to them for analysis. I haven't heard anything. They have been very good whenever I have called.

Then, a couple of times, my JessEm miter fence has nicked the blade. Everything works as advertised.

None of the activations was for a finger, etc. All could have been averted if I had been more aware of everything.

I keep a spare cartridge in the shop.

I own the ICS and the gap check with a change of blades is critical. I found that out when I changed from the sawstop blade to my WWII. I assuemed a 10" blade is a 10" blade and that is not the case! My problem was the opposite My wwII is slightly under 10" where the SS blade is right on 10". It caused too big a gap and would fail the test and not run. I called support and they indicated that gap if too wide is both unsafe, and if too far out of their spec, will disable the system. After I readjusted the gap, which took all of a minute, I was back in business. I called Forrest thinking I had a bad blade, I found that was indeed the way they come The engineer indicated that they had a lots of complaints that some of the smaller saws it caused problems, so to satisfy that issue, they nominally reduced the diameter of the blades to slightly under 10". Again no big deal, I just know to check it each time I change the blade. Only other problem I had was I have a 20 tooth special rip blade from forrest and some times if that blade stops and the sensor is between the big gaps caused by only 20 teeth, it will cause the system to not start thinking the gap is too far apart. I simply rotate the blade a hair and the prob is solved. I don't use it except for 12/4 material and thats not used that much so no big deal.

So you can see that gap means a lot.

I'd send that blade back to forrest and get their opinion before chucking it. I've heard of them being able to recover them in some cases. It would not hurt other than the cost to ship it to them.

[rudy de haas]

You bought the saw for its safety benefits - and tossing a damaged blade is just part of the cost.

On the other hand.. (insert evil grin here) have you considered its advantages in competitive frisbee?

[Tom Walz]

We buy carbide scrap as a consolidator. We buy a coffee can or 30# in a flat rate box. When we have a ton or so we ship it in.
Refiners typically don't want coffee cans coming in.

You can crush carbide to make carbide grit. You can also reclaim the tungsten carbide grains from the cobalt binder.

You can use reclaimed carbide to make new parts. It does not work as well in precision parts such as saw tips. It is just fine in wear parts such as snow plow edges.

Silver (as in braze alloy that is 50% silver) is expensive but it decreases the value of carbide scrap by about $0.50 per pound.


298551298550298552298553

[HANK METZ]

Turn disaster into kitsch, trip SS enough times and you may be able to turn a profit selling these:

298567

[Wayne Jolly]

Seems to me the place to start would be to call Forrest. They might be able to put it back into service cheaper than a new blade.

Wayne

[David Ragan]

You are right, Hank.

And, I will send the blade back to Forrest-probably call first.

I will mention @ this point, that always get the UPS insurance when shipping stuff. I sent two blades in a specially constructed small plywood box to Forrest. They never arrived. The investigation showed they made it one stop short of the destination. I got $100 from UPS, and lost I guess about $150 on the deal. My last uninsured UPS shipment. Ever.

[Jim Becker]

When you send the blade into Forrest, ask them to evaluate first and confirm you want the work done...their form has an option for that.

[william biba]

A one time use Frisbee

[Frank Drew]

I hate the idea of just throwing potentially useful material in the trash; I'd certainly try to find a way to recycle the saw plate, even if it meant dropping it off at the local scrap metal dealer the next time I was in that town. I'd be fine just giving it to them, just to keep it out of the landfill.

[Dennis Aspö]

I was thinking perhaps you can make a riving knife from it.

[Keith Outten]

I expect that anyone who owns a plasma torch would be happy to receive old blades. There seems to be an unlimited number of things that could be cut from a steel disk and these days metal has become very expensive.

Several years ago someone gave me three 18" masonry blades that I have stored in one of my storage buildings waiting for the right job. Last year I purchased a Miller plasma torch so I now have the means to use the big blades.....just need a project for them now.
.

[Johnny Rowland]

Make a knife from it..