William Dameron
08-22-2014, 11:10 AM
Alright guys and gals, I have a few questions about dust collection. Specifically, large-ish shop dust collection. I'm trying to start a community woodshop in Las Vegas - i.e. a large, well equipped shop, open to the public in the form of membership, and classes. You guys might be familiar with Philidelphia Woodworks, Community Woodshop LA, etc. We're hoping our will be similar, and we're well on our way - have a lot of tooling, and a big chunk of the capital saved up - hopefully in the next few months we'll be ready to pull the trigger, lease a building and open the doors... but, thats neither here nor there. What I would like to know about is dust collection for a shop that large. I've worked in a few woodshops over the years, and always had hodge-podge dust collection. I want this to be better. To begin with, here is a tool list:
22" planer, 15" planer, 16" jointer, 8" jointer, 2 sawstop table saws (for now - maybe another down the road), 2 band saws, 2 chop saws, 3 router tables, belt/disc combo sander, spindle sander, drill press, etc. Later on down the road I might add a few tools, and one day would love to have a wide belt sander or dual drum sander. I will also have a lathe section, with 5 or 6 midi lathes, and probably 1 or 2 full size lathes (may get those later on after doors open though).
So, with the above tools, I will officially need a lot of dust collection. I've been researching the heck out of it, and I think I have it narrowed down to two potential types. A big external unit, or if I have to put it indoors, cyclone units. So far, am I correct?
Next, can anyone recommend the amount of cfms I need to move? According to Bill Pentz's chart, it's about 8000. According to other info I've found on the web it could be down around 6000. I definitely want the air to be clean, so overkill is a better, within reason.
If I do go with internal cyclones (I may have to, depending on what modifications to the building my future landlord will allow), should I go with multiple small ones? Or a couple of large ones? If I do go with larger ones, noise is a concern - and if I have to build an enclosure around the collectors, I get into a whole nother world of fire codes I have to deal with (in Las Vegas inspections can be very strict), and will most likely have to have a sprinkler/s installed in that room, and possibly have to build fully certified dust proof and non-flammable rooms, similar to a spray booth. This could get expensive in a hurry, and really slow down how long it takes me to build up enough capital to get doors open.
So, can anyone lend advice? Cyclones or external? Total CFMs? Good cyclone units which arent' stupidly loud? Cost effective solutions?
Thanks in advance,
Will
22" planer, 15" planer, 16" jointer, 8" jointer, 2 sawstop table saws (for now - maybe another down the road), 2 band saws, 2 chop saws, 3 router tables, belt/disc combo sander, spindle sander, drill press, etc. Later on down the road I might add a few tools, and one day would love to have a wide belt sander or dual drum sander. I will also have a lathe section, with 5 or 6 midi lathes, and probably 1 or 2 full size lathes (may get those later on after doors open though).
So, with the above tools, I will officially need a lot of dust collection. I've been researching the heck out of it, and I think I have it narrowed down to two potential types. A big external unit, or if I have to put it indoors, cyclone units. So far, am I correct?
Next, can anyone recommend the amount of cfms I need to move? According to Bill Pentz's chart, it's about 8000. According to other info I've found on the web it could be down around 6000. I definitely want the air to be clean, so overkill is a better, within reason.
If I do go with internal cyclones (I may have to, depending on what modifications to the building my future landlord will allow), should I go with multiple small ones? Or a couple of large ones? If I do go with larger ones, noise is a concern - and if I have to build an enclosure around the collectors, I get into a whole nother world of fire codes I have to deal with (in Las Vegas inspections can be very strict), and will most likely have to have a sprinkler/s installed in that room, and possibly have to build fully certified dust proof and non-flammable rooms, similar to a spray booth. This could get expensive in a hurry, and really slow down how long it takes me to build up enough capital to get doors open.
So, can anyone lend advice? Cyclones or external? Total CFMs? Good cyclone units which arent' stupidly loud? Cost effective solutions?
Thanks in advance,
Will