Anthony Rausch
07-24-2014, 1:35 PM
Hello all,
This is basically my first furniture project. Right now I have all the boards 4 squared and ready to cut to size and begin joining. My question is about joining the platform rails with the lip. I initially was going to butt joint glue them with pocket holes to provide the clamping force. I am thinking that this may not be strong enough to stand up to the use of tying shoes on it, or maybe sitting on it, or something I'm not considering right now but will eventually happen that stresses the joint.
I know that the screws in this case aren't going to be providing any strength in the joint they just assist in clamping it together because I don't own enough clamps to get entire bed rails glued. I'm looking at woodgears.ca where he does some strength testing and butt joints perform very poorly. All wood is 1-1/8" thick.
Do you guys think that dowels will be sufficient in providing enough strength to this joint? 1/2" or 3/4"? I don't want to have to add brackets or a piece of wood to the underside of the lip to give the lip more bearing surface. I would like just clean 90* lines. Anything beyond dowels is probably going to be pretty tough, like adding a spline or loose tenons, simply because I probably don't have the skill yet to route out such a large area and slip the spline in, and I don't have chisel skills or a mortiser for the tenons.... so dowels would be the easiest and most preferred.
The wood is dimensional lumber, spruce, pine or fur, not entirely sure.
Should be able to click to expand. I don't have a the middle rail shown, or the slat system.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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This is basically my first furniture project. Right now I have all the boards 4 squared and ready to cut to size and begin joining. My question is about joining the platform rails with the lip. I initially was going to butt joint glue them with pocket holes to provide the clamping force. I am thinking that this may not be strong enough to stand up to the use of tying shoes on it, or maybe sitting on it, or something I'm not considering right now but will eventually happen that stresses the joint.
I know that the screws in this case aren't going to be providing any strength in the joint they just assist in clamping it together because I don't own enough clamps to get entire bed rails glued. I'm looking at woodgears.ca where he does some strength testing and butt joints perform very poorly. All wood is 1-1/8" thick.
Do you guys think that dowels will be sufficient in providing enough strength to this joint? 1/2" or 3/4"? I don't want to have to add brackets or a piece of wood to the underside of the lip to give the lip more bearing surface. I would like just clean 90* lines. Anything beyond dowels is probably going to be pretty tough, like adding a spline or loose tenons, simply because I probably don't have the skill yet to route out such a large area and slip the spline in, and I don't have chisel skills or a mortiser for the tenons.... so dowels would be the easiest and most preferred.
The wood is dimensional lumber, spruce, pine or fur, not entirely sure.
Should be able to click to expand. I don't have a the middle rail shown, or the slat system.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
293671
293672